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Old 01-05-2024, 10:16 PM
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I’m curious if the VAP tune still includes the limiter at 186 mph (R model). I know the big marketing campaign for the SVR was 200 mph so no reason why 600hp+ via VAP can’t do it. It’s been a while since they’ve closed down an airstrip by me but hitting 200 in the car is on the bucket list.
 
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That'd be a question for VAP, no?
 
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I’ve asked via email before but those guys stay busy. Figured I’d see if anyone on here knew…
 

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I had my limiter removed by VAP as part of my phase 1 tune (if i remember right).
 
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Nothing to add but to say go get em you wild boy
 
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Rev limiter is different than speed limiter. The VAP tune I have does raise the rev limit, but I don't know if my car has a speed limit in the firmware. The V8 might, since 186mph is a suspicious number. It was the magic (evil) number the motorcycle manufacturers were avoiding exceeding for a time, thinking that it would lead to legislation to enforce it.
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Rev limiter is different than speed limiter. The VAP tune I have does raise the rev limit, but I don't know if my car has a speed limit in the firmware. The V8 might, since 186mph is a suspicious number. It was the magic (evil) number the motorcycle manufacturers were avoiding exceeding for a time, thinking that it would lead to legislation to enforce it.
Yep, I vaguely recall this topic coming up a few years ago with the answer from VAP that their tune increases the rev limiter point (by some 500 rpm IIRC) but not the speed limiter.
I know for sure that the VAP tune kyboshes the N or P rev limiter of 4,000 rpm so you can sit there in N or P revving it to the moon if you want, not that any sane F-Type driver would ever dream of doing that!
 
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Speed limiter was removed on my tune. I can attest (in Mexico) to going higher than 186 MPH
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Rev limiter is different than speed limiter. The VAP tune I have does raise the rev limit, but I don't know if my car has a speed limit in the firmware. The V8 might, since 186mph is a suspicious number. It was the magic (evil) number the motorcycle manufacturers were avoiding exceeding for a time, thinking that it would lead to legislation to enforce it.
I always thought that the magic 186 mph was the speed limit enforced by the Jaguar based on some unknown tire speed ratings. Of course, a tire such as Michelin PS4+ is rated 186mph+ so no issue there. But who knows what tire they were originally protecting against.
 
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Pre 2019MY is disabled in file, post that model year it's not a guarantee.
 
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I always thought that the magic 186 mph was the speed limit enforced by the Jaguar based on some unknown tire speed ratings. Of course, a tire such as Michelin PS4+ is rated 186mph+ so no issue there. But who knows what tire they were originally protecting against.
20-ish years ago there were rumors that the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers had a gentlemen's agreement to limit top speed of their superbikes to 300kph (186mph) to avoid having governments step in and regulate it. I never heard any evidence that such an agreement existed, but many bikes were noted to have a top speed of 186mph. MV Agusta thumbed their nose at that in 2007 when they got 312kph on a test track and then released the F4 312 R, putting the number right there in the name.

Tires would be a good guess, but as you note, the stock tires are ZR-rated and it's generally illegal to mount tires with a lower rating than the factory fitted. There might also be aerodynamic considerations, particularly on the convertible, but I'm speculating.
 
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186mph is 300kph - the limits tend to be set around 250 or 300 for European (and Aussie!) convenience.
 
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