"Watch JR Go" F-Type salvage series on Youtube
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I was surprised at the amount of rust on all of the components and the undercarriage. The car must have been stored under poor conditions for a while.
I assume he'll get the engine rebuilt and running and reassemble the vehicle but it will never be the same as one that hadn't been torn apart like that. Can you say creaks and rattles and cosmetic damage to the body ? I suppose for someone who wants a very inexpensive F type it will be OK but to me it is in the same category as a car that was flood damaged and has a salvage title and I wouldn't touch it.
I assume he'll get the engine rebuilt and running and reassemble the vehicle but it will never be the same as one that hadn't been torn apart like that. Can you say creaks and rattles and cosmetic damage to the body ? I suppose for someone who wants a very inexpensive F type it will be OK but to me it is in the same category as a car that was flood damaged and has a salvage title and I wouldn't touch it.
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That undercarriage rust is not unusual at all. There are threads here about it and how some people have removed, painted, and replaced their chassis braces just to stop the rust.
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This brings up a nagging issue of mine about YT channels, their on-air personas, and human nature in general. Case in point: car reliability.
If I post a video of a Jaguar engine blowing up in a spectacular fashion, it'll get a ton of views. If I post a video of that same Jaguar being driven at ordinary speeds to Home Depot and back home, it won't. Why? Because people want excitement and drama, and pretty much don't care if it's contrived or not. The problem is that people let that skewed need for drama guide their thinking about what's normal. Another example are all the videos of out-of-control Ford Mustangs leaving events and crashing. Does anyone really believe that all Mustangs are dangerous? Unfortunately, I think people's weakness for such videos does alter their sense of reality, and some turn around and contribute to it by posting more videos of the same, based on the "fact" that Mustang's crash, further perpetuating what is really just dumb kids doing dumb stuff in powerful but cheap cars.
Unfortunately it's how we're wired, no one wants to watch boring videos of Jaguar's going grocery shopping, the videos don't get any views, so YT people quickly figured out that we're suckers for tire smoke, mayhem, and destruction. It's what sells. Sadly, human nature is predictable enough that there's even a term for it: confirmation bias, where if someone filters out only what they want to see, that becomes their reality for what's normal.
Back on topic, I don't think Jaguars are as unreliable as is portrayed. His particular car was VERY likely abused and and service ignored, yet that's not fun and exciting to make videos about, and here we are, yet another video concluding that they're terrible cars. Here's the irony: he would never have bought this car if there was nothing wrong with it! No drama, no income, so no video, and so people conclude that Jags are unreliable because he bought an unreliable Jag... circular reasoning.
Even in this forum we see signs of it, Take 100 Jag owners, and lets say that five have an issue and post about it. Meanwhile, the other 95 are perfectly happy with their car, and have no reason to post. As a result, anyone briefly paging through here concludes that the cars are unreliable due to the amount of negative posts. It's unintended from our side, but some people are unable to read and think logically and critically, and here we are.
Oh well, we still have dog and cat videos... so it's not a complete lost cause. End of this week's social commentary.
If I post a video of a Jaguar engine blowing up in a spectacular fashion, it'll get a ton of views. If I post a video of that same Jaguar being driven at ordinary speeds to Home Depot and back home, it won't. Why? Because people want excitement and drama, and pretty much don't care if it's contrived or not. The problem is that people let that skewed need for drama guide their thinking about what's normal. Another example are all the videos of out-of-control Ford Mustangs leaving events and crashing. Does anyone really believe that all Mustangs are dangerous? Unfortunately, I think people's weakness for such videos does alter their sense of reality, and some turn around and contribute to it by posting more videos of the same, based on the "fact" that Mustang's crash, further perpetuating what is really just dumb kids doing dumb stuff in powerful but cheap cars.
Unfortunately it's how we're wired, no one wants to watch boring videos of Jaguar's going grocery shopping, the videos don't get any views, so YT people quickly figured out that we're suckers for tire smoke, mayhem, and destruction. It's what sells. Sadly, human nature is predictable enough that there's even a term for it: confirmation bias, where if someone filters out only what they want to see, that becomes their reality for what's normal.
Back on topic, I don't think Jaguars are as unreliable as is portrayed. His particular car was VERY likely abused and and service ignored, yet that's not fun and exciting to make videos about, and here we are, yet another video concluding that they're terrible cars. Here's the irony: he would never have bought this car if there was nothing wrong with it! No drama, no income, so no video, and so people conclude that Jags are unreliable because he bought an unreliable Jag... circular reasoning.
Even in this forum we see signs of it, Take 100 Jag owners, and lets say that five have an issue and post about it. Meanwhile, the other 95 are perfectly happy with their car, and have no reason to post. As a result, anyone briefly paging through here concludes that the cars are unreliable due to the amount of negative posts. It's unintended from our side, but some people are unable to read and think logically and critically, and here we are.
Oh well, we still have dog and cat videos... so it's not a complete lost cause. End of this week's social commentary.
Last edited by kb58; 08-14-2022 at 05:56 PM.
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Here is another irony, although it perhaps is better described as stupidity, he goes out and buys yet another junk yard engine and will try to insert that. I wonder how many moans and groans will we get during that process?
Last edited by GeorgeIII; 08-14-2022 at 09:24 PM.
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Yeah that crossed my mind. Just because it has a 12-month warranty doesn't mean that they did any engine testing first. He could have at least asked them why the car ended up in that yard. It was weird to hear him refer to it as a new engine, practically in the same sentence as saying that it has the same mileage. It does rather point to a higher than average chance of future issues.
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I spent about 8 years in salvage sales for a local yard that was eventually sold to LKQ. This mix up happened with many low volume makes like Jaguar The interchange system that salvage yards use can be antiquated. If you look for an engine for that car, you may have a VIN digit that the software needs, that doesn't match your own car etc.
If I look up an engine for my 2016, there are 4 eighth digit VIN options, regardless of which option you click, car-part will show the same results ranging from a 2014 XE, up to 2018 reman engines. The LKQ corporate page will lead you down a different path, with different 8th digit codes. Good luck to all involved!
If I look up an engine for my 2016, there are 4 eighth digit VIN options, regardless of which option you click, car-part will show the same results ranging from a 2014 XE, up to 2018 reman engines. The LKQ corporate page will lead you down a different path, with different 8th digit codes. Good luck to all involved!
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