Wear on carbon ceramics
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Wear on carbon ceramics
Hi all.
First post, have been reading a bunch before registering. I’m currently looking at an F-Type R Coupé with CCBs.
I‘d appreciate input -> how much life do they have left in them? Pads have recently been changed, but I’m on the fence when it comes to the disks. They’re rough to the touch and seem to have a few chips in the rear.
Slight noise, only under very light braking force. No speaking, more like soft grinding. First CCB car that I drove though, so no point of reference.
Thoughts?
Front. Even wear as far as I can tell, but not smooth.
Less worn than fronts, but some rough spots on the right.
First post, have been reading a bunch before registering. I’m currently looking at an F-Type R Coupé with CCBs.
I‘d appreciate input -> how much life do they have left in them? Pads have recently been changed, but I’m on the fence when it comes to the disks. They’re rough to the touch and seem to have a few chips in the rear.
Slight noise, only under very light braking force. No speaking, more like soft grinding. First CCB car that I drove though, so no point of reference.
Thoughts?
Front. Even wear as far as I can tell, but not smooth.
Less worn than fronts, but some rough spots on the right.
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Roughly 110k miles, I’m told exclusively street driving.
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I'm sure the CCB rotor wear spec is by weight but the 2016 V6S manual I got from (the Great and Powerful) OzXFR give thickness specs. I think the weights are individually marked on the rotors themselves rather than universal, but that's based on vague memories and I can't find a reference.
The copy I have of the 2016 manual gives a nominal new thickness of 38mm, minimum of 37.5mm. I don't see that information for the rears. I would not trust that information were it my own car. The manual does have some descriptive information you may find useful:
The copy I have of the 2016 manual gives a nominal new thickness of 38mm, minimum of 37.5mm. I don't see that information for the rears. I would not trust that information were it my own car. The manual does have some descriptive information you may find useful:
The deterioration of the braking surface is caused by the oxidation of
fibres following extreme thermal stress. When the brake discs reach
high temperatures, the fibres on the surface begin to oxidize.
The level of oxidation can be judged on the porosity and roughness of
the braking surface. The degradation of the braking surfaces
influences the NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) performance.
fibres following extreme thermal stress. When the brake discs reach
high temperatures, the fibres on the surface begin to oxidize.
The level of oxidation can be judged on the porosity and roughness of
the braking surface. The degradation of the braking surfaces
influences the NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) performance.
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Rotor thickness is between -0,1 and -0,2mm from new, so golden in that regard. Surface is quite rough though and the rears seem to have some chipping.
Assuming the surface condition is only affecting NVH, I would be completely fine with it. Compared with my track Miata/MX-5 on race brakes and especially pads it can't be worse
Assuming the surface condition is only affecting NVH, I would be completely fine with it. Compared with my track Miata/MX-5 on race brakes and especially pads it can't be worse
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Not mine yet - fitted on a car I might buy. Factory Brembo CCBs, disks untouched, pads are fresh and OEM. A friend that's experienced with CCBs said they might have 30k miles left in them... But they're giving me a bit of a headache
30k miles would be fine for starters, after that I'd probably look into refurbishing... should be possible for Brembo parts... Definitely not cheap though. Swapping to steels would be sad. They look too damn good :')
30k miles would be fine for starters, after that I'd probably look into refurbishing... should be possible for Brembo parts... Definitely not cheap though. Swapping to steels would be sad. They look too damn good :')
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Brakes will need some love soon, but I don’t have any headache regarding the mileage. The car has seen regular miles on long distance journeys, e.g. 35.000 miles in 9 months at one point. Car is in excellent condition, has been serviced at Jag yearly and drives like the four other cars that I tested with significantly lower mileage.
I prefer high mileage, well kept over low mileage and used for weekend hooning by someone who abused the car. Less miles would obviously be great, but that comes with a price.
Obviously I can only judge the car from the outside, but aside from the brake wear it’s basically immaculate.
Mainly: it’s a great deal. Even if 15k of stuff breaks the price would be fine, especially for that spec.
She do be pretty
I prefer high mileage, well kept over low mileage and used for weekend hooning by someone who abused the car. Less miles would obviously be great, but that comes with a price.
Obviously I can only judge the car from the outside, but aside from the brake wear it’s basically immaculate.
Mainly: it’s a great deal. Even if 15k of stuff breaks the price would be fine, especially for that spec.
She do be pretty
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Looks like they have some lightly used rotors for MUCH cheaper than new! https://www.partsboxonline.com/used-...RAKE/2016/?k=1
Only used ones on Car-Part.com too. If you don't want them tell me, because I do! The rears has one cracked, so you can get 3/4 rotors for $4500 with only 8k miles on them.
Only used ones on Car-Part.com too. If you don't want them tell me, because I do! The rears has one cracked, so you can get 3/4 rotors for $4500 with only 8k miles on them.
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Looks like they have some lightly used rotors for MUCH cheaper than new! https://www.partsboxonline.com/used-...RAKE/2016/?k=1
Only used ones on Car-Part.com too. If you don't want them tell me, because I do! The rears has one cracked, so you can get 3/4 rotors for $4500 with only 8k miles on them.
Only used ones on Car-Part.com too. If you don't want them tell me, because I do! The rears has one cracked, so you can get 3/4 rotors for $4500 with only 8k miles on them.
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Assuming you meant two sets of pads -> yes 👍🏻Rotors last way longer than pads under normal circumstances
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