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Many of us have wondered about the varying weights published or claimed for various F-Type models. Virtually all truck stops have ramp scales, usually located adjacent to the big-rig, truck pumps. Next time you're driving by one, get your F-Type weighed, and publish the results on this thread.
Simply note model (V6 or V8 coupe or convertible) wheel size and approximate fuel level. Subtract your weight from the number you get, since you'll be in the car when it's weighed.
a US gallon of gas weighs 6.183 lbs (.74 kg/litre) and an F type's fuel capacity is 70 litres a full tank should be 51.8 kg's or 114 lbs. It's probably easier to fill up and deduct than it is to run to the scales with an empty tank.
Jaguar claims the cars weigh "from 1567kgs" (3455 lbs) but I've seen lots of comments about the F type being a "4000 lb car". ....so it will be interesting to see the effects of various configurations.
You need to go to a commercial truck stop with scales, not a State scale.
Larry
Yes, exactly. Any truck stop/fuel/service center (e.g. Pilot, Flying-J, Loves, TA, etc.) will let you do it because they charge for it. I don't recall the price, but I think it's less than $10. I've been weighing my various RVs for years.
Weighed my 2014 F-Type base V6 AT convertible at a truck stop today. The only options on my car are heated seats, heated steering wheel, and 20" Gyodynes/ w OEM PZeros.
It took less than 5 minutes for the entire transaction and cost $10.50, and let's just say these cars are "fat," more so than JLR led me, at least, to believe.
Without further ado:
3920 lbs. -- w/ driver (me) and a hair over 1/2 tank of fuel
- 190 lbs. -- me
- 63 lbs. -- fuel
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3667 lbs.
Last edited by Foosh; 04-14-2016 at 01:39 PM.
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Weighed my 2014 F-Type base V6 AT convertible at a truck stop today. The only options on my car are heated seats, heated steering wheel, and 20" Gyodynes/ w OEM PZeros.
It took less than 5 minutes for the entire transaction and cost $10.50, and let's just say these cars are "fat," more so than JLR led me, at least, to believe.
Without further ado:
3920 lbs. -- w/ driver (me) and a hair over 1/2 tank of fuel
- 190 lbs. -- me
- 83 lbs. -- fuel
______________
3647 lbs.
Yikes!!!
I can only imagine what my Type R comes in at! I definitely feel the weight compared to my M4
I see the 2014 manual says, for the base...
Vehicle weight, from 3521 lbs.
Whatever that means. Sounds like a dry weight. Think you have 120 lb of oil, coolant, washer fluid, etc? I wouldn't think the standard 18" wheels would weigh a whole lot less (the wheels would weight less, but the tires would weigh more?)
With their current "lightest" weight of 3455 and adding in 50 lbs for the 'vert and a bit for the auto and a couple options.....I'd have thought just over 3600 lbs.
Hey Foosh; are you 190 naked in the morning, or 190 wearing clothes and after a burger and a beer for lunch? LOL.
With their current "lightest" weight of 3455 and adding in 50 lbs for the 'vert and a bit for the auto and a couple options.....I'd have thought just over 3600 lbs.
Hey Foosh; are you 190 naked in the morning, or 190 wearing clothes and after a burger and a beer for lunch? LOL.
Dave
LOL . . . 6'2" 185 w/o clothes, but today I was wearing a coat and heavy dress shoes in addition to the other usual stuff. :-)
I see the 2014 manual says, for the base...
Vehicle weight, from 3521 lbs.
Whatever that means. Sounds like a dry weight. Think you have 120 lb of oil, coolant, washer fluid, etc? I wouldn't think the standard 18" wheels would weigh a whole lot less (the wheels would weight less, but the tires would weigh more?)
Yes, and I'm sure that's a no-option, base car like mine. I weighed my base 18" Vela wheels and OEM tires a while back and they came out at 49 and 54 lbs. Someone else weighed their Gyrodynes, and we used Tire Rack quoted weights for tires to come up with less than a 10 lbs. difference per corner. So the 20" wheels and tires only accounts for 40 lbs max.
With all the options added to most of these cars, I think my car will end up being one of the lightest on the forum.
With their current "lightest" weight of 3455 and adding in 50 lbs for the 'vert and a bit for the auto and a couple options.....I'd have thought just over 3600 lbs.
Hey Foosh; are you 190 naked in the morning, or 190 wearing clothes and after a burger and a beer for lunch? LOL.
Dave
3521 lbs. is what Jaguar claimed for the 2014 base, and they were all convertibles and automatic transmissions that year. 100 lbs. more than the JLR published number is not insignificant for a no option base car, and I'm assuming my 20" wheels/tires added 40 lbs. (probably overstated).
Yep; mine is certainly going to be heavier. Most of the V8S/V8R cars have lots of options on them so the R 'vert AWD should be the heaviest and the V6 base coupe MT should be lightest. ......my complete guess is that we are going to go from 3550 - 4050
- an S weighs 37 lbs more than the Base (due to mandatory S options, one assumes)
- an Auto weighs 22 lbs more than a 6 spd
- AWD weighs 198 lbs more than RWD (though I've seen 175lbs printed before)
- a V8 weighs 112 lbs more than a V6
I've read somewhere that the coupe was lighter by approx. 50 lbs? not sure on this and it would depend which roof.
The SVR is said to be 110 lbs lighter due to the CF Roof, brakes and other bits. CF brakes alone are supposedly 46 lbs lighter.
Anyhoo, interesting stuff; hopefully enough people will participate that we can extrapolate some real-world data comparing the various models and options.
Yep; mine is certainly going to be heavier. Most of the V8S/V8R cars have lots of options on them so the R 'vert AWD should be the heaviest and the V6 base coupe MT should be lightest. ......my complete guess is that we are going to go from 3550 - 4050
- an S weighs 37 lbs more than the Base (due to mandatory S options, one assumes)
- an Auto weighs 22 lbs more than a 6 spd
- AWD weighs 198 lbs more than RWD (though I've seen 175lbs printed before)
- a V8 weighs 112 lbs more than a V6
I've read somewhere that the coupe was lighter by approx. 50 lbs? not sure on this and it would depend which roof.
The SVR is said to be 110 lbs lighter due to the CF Roof, brakes and other bits. CF brakes alone are supposedly 46 lbs lighter.
Anyhoo, interesting stuff; hopefully enough people will participate that we can extrapolate some real-world data comparing the various models and options.
Cheers,
Dave
Yes, but . . .
The numbers in your link are the same as the JLR published numbers, which according to my actual weight today are at least 100 lbs. understated for the base AT convertible, and I suspect the option weights are not fully taken into account either on the higher priced models.
3920 lbs. -- w/ driver (me) and a hair over 1/2 tank of fuel
- 190 lbs. -- me
- 63 lbs. -- fuel
______________
3667 lbs.
This is certainly disappointing. The weight of your car was essentially the benchmark for the rest of us to attain (less 22-25lbs for your overweight tranny). It's even worse than you think. The United States Environmental Protection Agency regulations define Curb Weight as follows: "Curb weight means the actual or the manufacturer’s estimated weight of the vehicle in operational status with all standard equipment, and weight of fuel at nominal tank capacity, and the weight of optional equipment computed in accordance with §86.1832–01".
Nominal tank capacity is 18.5 gallons. For apples to apples comp with the Jag specified curb weight, you have to add the 63 lbs, not subtract it, for a total of 3793 lbs. WTF? 270 lbs understated?
Yep . . . :-( I was shocked when I looked at the slip.
I'm hoping to see others weigh their cars for a quality control check. It's ridiculously freaking easy, takes 5 minutes, and anyone who spends any time on a freeway passes by them all the time.
Perhaps the scale was off, but those things are supposedly calibrated often because the trucking industry relies heavily upon them. It would be very bad business for a truck stop to not have an accurate scale.
... but those things are supposedly calibrated often because the trucking industry relies heavily upon them.
+1.Unlikely that it's off by much, but certainly possible if some trucker hit the brakes hard driving onto the scale since the last calibration. I'll try to get mine weighed with a full tank when I get back into town this weekend.
+1.Unlikely that it's off by much, but certainly possible if some trucker hit the brakes hard driving onto the scale since the last calibration. I'll try to get mine weighed with a full tank when I get back into town this weekend.
They are certified though they are more concerned with it being accurate at 40,000 lbs than 4,000.....not sure that matters though. This is why a bunch of data points will help; it should help eliminate inaccurate scales.
+1.Unlikely that it's off by much, but certainly possible if some trucker hit the brakes hard driving onto the scale since the last calibration. I'll try to get mine weighed with a full tank when I get back into town this weekend.
It will be interesting to see if your "s" options are as heavy as your lighter manual tranny and coupe bodystyle.....personally I wouldn't be surprised if yours was lighter.
As long as we are comparing apples to apples, it doesn't matter but for my purposes, I'll be using wet weight, no fuel, no cargo/passengers.....it's too hard to compare different vehicles with varying fuel capacities; to use a motorcycle analogy, it isn't fair to penalize one bike for being able to carry 6 galls of fuel when another can only carry 2.5 galls...
Another thought...just rambling; though 100 lbs isn't insignificant, when you add the weight of a couple options (they weigh something ) and then a bit of scale variation...well, my physics professor called it "propagation of errors". so a +/- is reasonable....how much? I don't know but 100 lbs is is only 2%.