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2016 F-Type V6S MT fully optioned:
Curb weight (EPA definition: no driver, full tank): 3800 lbs
Weight (no driver, empty tank 3689)

 
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a spare tire on board a coupe will add a few pounds as well, just something to note if anyone has one.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
2016 F-Type V6S MT fully optioned:
Curb weight (EPA definition: no driver, full tank): 3800 lbs
Weight (no driver, empty tank 3689)
So to confirm, you were NOT in the vehicle when weighed, correct?

Like I said, I've never seen a truck scale let you do that, but I haven't actually asked.

Using your methodology, I'm at 3667, which makes sense because we know that the base coupe w/ MT weigh less than the base convertible w/ AT. It's looking like JLR numbers are understated by 125 or more lbs. It makes sense that you V6S w/ options weighs more.

Wasn't a base MT coupe supposed to weigh 3450?
 

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Originally Posted by mshedden
a spare tire on board a coupe will add a few pounds as well, just something to note if anyone has one.
No spare on mine.

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So to confirm, you were NOT in the vehicle when weighed, correct?

Like I said, I've never seen a truck scale let you do that, but I haven't actually asked.

Using your methodology, I'm at 3667, which makes sense because we know that the base coupe w/ MT weigh less than the base convertible w/ AT. It's looking like JLR numbers are understated by 125 or more lbs. It makes sense that you V6S w/ options weighs more.

Wasn't a base MT coupe supposed to weigh 3450?
Me not in vehicle. My results are consistent with yours, about ~125 lbs more than Jaguar would have us believe.

MT base coupe should have been 3455. Mine should have been 3521
 

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In the Velocity thread Ryan 23 posted a Dyno chart showing a weight....but perhaps not enough info to be of assistance ...also not sure if Dynos even weigh a car.
 
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Originally Posted by Awd
In the Velocity thread Ryan 23 posted a Dyno chart showing a weight....but perhaps not enough info to be of assistance ...also not sure if Dynos even weigh a car.
Dynos don't weigh cars. That was either an estimate or pulled from some reference source.
 
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you could always drive it into a tank of water and then measure the weight of how much water was lost by volume!
 
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you could always drive it into a tank of water and then measure the weight of how much water was lost by volume!
OK, Archimedes...that will just get you the volumetric dimension of the car.
 
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Why are we talking numbers with people in the car? All definitive numbers should have the driver weight omitted.
Absolutely.


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Lance, I'd have expected yours to be a hair lighter.....If you deduct AWD's V8 (112 lbs) and AWD (170?lbs) your 17 lbs heavier than I'd have guessed comparing the two cars and assuming Jag's option weights are close.

Guys, I understand wanting proof, but the reality is that we have to trust people to some degree. You HAVE to take their word on the fuel issue and personal weight (assuming they are in the car anyway) so you need to have SOME faith! LOL

I'm back from my trip, so I'll attempt to get out and weigh mine this week. I think my local scale does a digital display so if I don't get an actual printout, I'll try to take a pic of the scale display for backup!

If nobody else does it, I'll compile a list of the results when we have some more to report. It'll be;

- year
- model
- tranny
- known options....or at least those that would obviously affect weight

and won't include people or fuel.

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Originally Posted by DPelletier
Absolutely.


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Yes, obviously we all want to see the "dry weight" (no fuel or passengers). However, it's a simple matter to subtract out your own weight, and get within round-off error of the fuel weight.

However, if the scale operator wants you in the car for the weigh, you have no choice. At many large truck stops, the scales are a long way from where the scale operator is sitting inside the store. I was told to drive on to the scale, stay in the car, and drive back to the store when he gave me the OK to pay and pick up my slip.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Yes, obviously we all want to see the "dry weight" (no fuel or passengers). However, it's a simple matter to subtract out your own weight, and get within round-off error of the fuel weight.

However, if the scale operator wants you in the car for the weigh, you have no choice. At many large truck stops, the scales are a long way from where the scale operator is sitting inside the store. I was told to drive on to the scale, stay in the car, and drive back to the store when he gave me the OK to pay and pick up my slip.
Yes, I know; I wasn't debating the issue only suggesting that for the sake of clarity we make sure the compiled data has removed the driver from the equation. I think I can exit my vehicle on the scale here....we'll see.

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And all I'm saying is that is completely irrelevant. You simply need to know whether a person of X weight was in the car not not, just like you need know how much fuel is in the car.

Oh yes, it wouldn't also be good to know if there is a 200 lb. boat anchor in the trunk. :-)
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
And all I'm saying is that is completely irrelevant. You simply need to know whether a person of X weight was in the car not not, just like you need know how much fuel is in the car.

Oh yes, it wouldn't also be good to know if there is a 200 lb. boat anchor in the trunk. :-)
....ummmmm yessss..... you need to either have someone do the math or do it yourself - it's all the same. *I* intend to take the data and remove the person and fuel (if necessary) so I can compare apples to apples.

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Originally Posted by Foosh
Thanks, now it makes more sense. That would put your car at 4230 because you had almost exactly the same amount of fuel I had in mine when I came in at 3920. I've never seen a truck scale that would allow someone to be outside the vehicle, and I use them often to weigh my 42,000 lb. GVWR motorcoach.

Put another way, your 4020, equates to 3730 on my car.

Car weight is a very serious issue for enthusiasts, and every bit as important as HP and torque, sometimes more so. Thus, it's not a "how much cheap fuel is left in the hose issue."

It's also a reason that virtually every big-league race car driver in any series looks kinda like a thoroughbred horse jockey. :-)
Foosh, is that 42,000lb figure with or without 2.4 children and associated domestic paraphernalia???
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Foosh, is that 42,000lb figure with or without 2.4 children and associated domestic paraphernalia???
42K is max GVWR. I weigh it once a year on the same scale I just weighed my F, and the last weight was 37.6K including 120 gallons of diesel, 80 gallons of fresh water, all furniture, appliances, clothes, and me.

It's important to know how that weight is distributed on very heavy vehicles. It has 3 axles, and there's a max weight limitation for each axle. At full max gross, it's 120psi on all 8 tires. However, if I'm under on one or more axles, which I am, I can drop the pressure down to 110psi and get a better ride.
 
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You should try drag radials on it.
 
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I was finally able to weigh the car today. So the crucial things is that it had a completely full belly (full tank of gas) and I was NOT in the car and it came in at 3,840 pounds including the weight of the fuel. Below is a list of the important features that everyone needs to know.

2016 F-Type S Coupe
Automatic
RWD
No Spare Tire
Tank Gas = Full
Me NOT in the car

6.183 lbs per gallon of gas in car nominal tank capacity 18.5 x 6.183 = 114.3855 pounds (full tank)

Panaramic Roof
Interior Black Pack
Exterior Black Pack
Performance Seats w/extended leather. Black w/red stitching and red seat belts.
20" Black Tornado Wheels
Premium/Vision Package
 
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Thanks, it's very helpful to have an auto coupe V6S weight to compare my stripped, base V6 convertible with. You're about 50lbs. heavier than my car. While the coupe is lighter than the convertible, the S options add more weight. We both have 20" wheels.

It would be nice to see an auto V6S convertible weight to get a better idea of how much weight the options in higher end F-Types add.
 
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:42 PM
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Smoke Em, except for the transmission, we have virtually the same car. Your tranny accounts for 25 of the 40 lb differential. The other 15 lbs is just round off. I think there's consistent understatement of weight by JLR.
 


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