What is your radar detector of choice?
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Just use rubbing alcohol to clean before you apply and you're good.
Only thing is with this particular model you won;t be able to connect to it via bluetooth since the bluetooth adapter is in the actual 12v plug piece. Kind of annoying since I wanted to use it with the iphone app. I still use the app and get alerts from other passport users on police locations etc however. there might be a way to do it but I didn't think to ask the installers at the time.
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I used to fly F-14s for a living and knowing what quadrant the bogey or bandit was coming from was a big deal. That's still the case today and doppler radar is doppler radar.
A couple questions:
1. When you do a GPS lockout of "false alarms" as you call them. Are you locking out an exact frequency in that band received by the Escort or permanently locking out a significant section of that particular band?
2. What is the defined area radius, in distance, covered by that lockout?
BTW I totally disagree with your summation that the arrows are a gimmick. Used in the proper manner they far outweigh just listing to beeps. Also, there is no such thing as a false alarm. The detector is alerting to a frequency within a particular band. All are viable alerts and should be treated as such. It's for us to decipher what is a LEO, drone or proximity devise. You've been lucky thus far.
Walt
<<<The V1 is a great detector but the arrows are a gimmick and the Escort trumps it with GPS lockout of false alarms. Something that is very much needed if you always have it on while city driving. And I say the arrows are a gimmick because who cares where a signal is coming from? For one, radar bounces and you can get false hits from any direction. Second, if you get a radar hit, especially KA band, are you really going to go to do a mental breakdown of where the signal potentially came from and how you should respond? Hell no, you are going to slow down and be cautious.>>>
A couple questions:
1. When you do a GPS lockout of "false alarms" as you call them. Are you locking out an exact frequency in that band received by the Escort or permanently locking out a significant section of that particular band?
2. What is the defined area radius, in distance, covered by that lockout?
BTW I totally disagree with your summation that the arrows are a gimmick. Used in the proper manner they far outweigh just listing to beeps. Also, there is no such thing as a false alarm. The detector is alerting to a frequency within a particular band. All are viable alerts and should be treated as such. It's for us to decipher what is a LEO, drone or proximity devise. You've been lucky thus far.
Walt
<<<The V1 is a great detector but the arrows are a gimmick and the Escort trumps it with GPS lockout of false alarms. Something that is very much needed if you always have it on while city driving. And I say the arrows are a gimmick because who cares where a signal is coming from? For one, radar bounces and you can get false hits from any direction. Second, if you get a radar hit, especially KA band, are you really going to go to do a mental breakdown of where the signal potentially came from and how you should respond? Hell no, you are going to slow down and be cautious.>>>
So do you prefer the AN/ALR50 or 67???
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I only flew the A-model so that was the ALR50. The 67 was a big improvement as were the GE engines that came with the B and D models. Can't imagine what missions would have been like back then if all we received were beeps. (IE-no azimuth.)
Thanks for the blast back to the past. In some ways I miss those days but that would be considered the stone age compared to the F35 and today's technology.
Walt
Thanks for the blast back to the past. In some ways I miss those days but that would be considered the stone age compared to the F35 and today's technology.
Walt
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Hi everyone,
I ran with an Escort 9500ci for the last 5 years on both a Cayman and a Boxster Spyder. I just finished installing a Beltronics STi-R Plus (same as the 9500ci) for Radar and I have the front unit set to Lidar detect. I also installed a AL Priority for Lidar protection with two sensors in front and one in back. This combination is what is considered the best in radar and lidar defence available to consumers today. I did the install for everything except wiring the rear sensor myself (didn't feel like wiring the rear one). See pictures below for details.
Description of images :
1st : Shows where I installed the radar/lidar unit for the Beltronics STi-R Plus. This is behind the grille. Since I am not using it for any Lidar protection having it behind the grille is not an issue since it is plastic and wont block any radar sensitivity (at least from the front, cant do anything about the rear unless I put it on the roof LoL)
2nd : Shows where I placed the GPS receiver. I was looking for a spot that had no metal above it and that was flat for direct view of the sky, again the front bumper proved to be best.
3rd : Front view of the car after putting up the bumper again. You can see the Lidar units from AL Priority under the grille splitter on either side of the splitter, they are attached to the bottom of the splitter.
4th : This is where I finally decided to install the STi-R Control Unit.
5th : This is where I put the AL Priority control unit
6th : I put in a switch box for the AL Priority so that I can switch between the control box or use the Bluetooth Module and the iPhone App for it (pretty cool). I don't always want to use the phone, but nice option to have both. Got this switch box on Amazon, just a two port manual RJ45 switch. You can also make out the USB port for updating the STi-R Plus, it is right in front and higher up to the switch box, next to the OBDII part on the door side.
7th : A quick shot of where I placed the CPU boxes for the AL Priority and the STi-R Plus. This is right under the steering column. There is a shelf there that fits them perfectly side by side. I velcro'd them there.
8th : This shows where I placed the STi-R Plus screen. It is a great location that allows a quick view without obstructinig anything from the dash. I will likely make the wire disappear for a cleaner look over the next few days.
If you have any questions about this install feel free to ask.
One interesting thing to note is that under the Jag there is some 30Lbs of plastic and bolts that hold up the shielding under the car...I am sure that one can easily shave 100Lbs off this car without too much effort. I am guessing if you pull the seats for lighter ones and remove some other non-essential stuff you can shed 150lbs+ from this car with relative ease.
I will say that it is built solidly and the parts are easy to replace which is awesome. If you scratch a certain part of the front lower air dams or aero parts, they are made up of about 6 pieces, which is great and wont require a whole new front end :-)
I ran with an Escort 9500ci for the last 5 years on both a Cayman and a Boxster Spyder. I just finished installing a Beltronics STi-R Plus (same as the 9500ci) for Radar and I have the front unit set to Lidar detect. I also installed a AL Priority for Lidar protection with two sensors in front and one in back. This combination is what is considered the best in radar and lidar defence available to consumers today. I did the install for everything except wiring the rear sensor myself (didn't feel like wiring the rear one). See pictures below for details.
Description of images :
1st : Shows where I installed the radar/lidar unit for the Beltronics STi-R Plus. This is behind the grille. Since I am not using it for any Lidar protection having it behind the grille is not an issue since it is plastic and wont block any radar sensitivity (at least from the front, cant do anything about the rear unless I put it on the roof LoL)
2nd : Shows where I placed the GPS receiver. I was looking for a spot that had no metal above it and that was flat for direct view of the sky, again the front bumper proved to be best.
3rd : Front view of the car after putting up the bumper again. You can see the Lidar units from AL Priority under the grille splitter on either side of the splitter, they are attached to the bottom of the splitter.
4th : This is where I finally decided to install the STi-R Control Unit.
5th : This is where I put the AL Priority control unit
6th : I put in a switch box for the AL Priority so that I can switch between the control box or use the Bluetooth Module and the iPhone App for it (pretty cool). I don't always want to use the phone, but nice option to have both. Got this switch box on Amazon, just a two port manual RJ45 switch. You can also make out the USB port for updating the STi-R Plus, it is right in front and higher up to the switch box, next to the OBDII part on the door side.
7th : A quick shot of where I placed the CPU boxes for the AL Priority and the STi-R Plus. This is right under the steering column. There is a shelf there that fits them perfectly side by side. I velcro'd them there.
8th : This shows where I placed the STi-R Plus screen. It is a great location that allows a quick view without obstructinig anything from the dash. I will likely make the wire disappear for a cleaner look over the next few days.
If you have any questions about this install feel free to ask.
One interesting thing to note is that under the Jag there is some 30Lbs of plastic and bolts that hold up the shielding under the car...I am sure that one can easily shave 100Lbs off this car without too much effort. I am guessing if you pull the seats for lighter ones and remove some other non-essential stuff you can shed 150lbs+ from this car with relative ease.
I will say that it is built solidly and the parts are easy to replace which is awesome. If you scratch a certain part of the front lower air dams or aero parts, they are made up of about 6 pieces, which is great and wont require a whole new front end :-)
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I can give you lots of examples whereby having the "arrows" was of great tactical advantage to me. Just consider this though, locking out frequencies will definitely make the interior of your vehicle a much quieter environment however that does not equate to a better defense against a radar threat.
The Valentine One is well known for the directional arrows and multiple bogey counter.
The Escort Passport Max and the Passport 9500ix has Escort Live and the ability to lock out known false alarms such as automatic door openers and other motion sensors sharing the same bandwidth.
Here's a good image for that
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I guess both are equally good, and it's up to personal preference.
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Cool, looks like you got the latest 9500ci with the LaserInterceptor units for Lidar. I thought that I read somewhere that someone figured out a way to update the firmware on those using LI firmware with no impact to the 9500ci. They basically changed one bit. You might want to search on the Lidar and Radar forums about this.
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Did they have to drill your cluster or any part of your interior for this install? If the system was removed would there be any marks or damages to your interior?
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There is a very small access panel about the size of a quarter that snaps out just behind the display. At 5'11", the display does not block anything from my view. It is right at the top of the last items displayed, so it is possible that from some angles it might block the very top line of display text.
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This made for interesting reading for me living in an Australian state where police cars are fitted with radar detecting radar.
It's highly illegal here with severe penalties. Police cars are also fitted with number plate recognition equipment that detects non registered vehicles,un licenced drivers and any out standing fines. Drug and alcohol analysing and mobile speed detection..more like a mobile laboratory.
Enjoy some freedom before technology catches up.
It's highly illegal here with severe penalties. Police cars are also fitted with number plate recognition equipment that detects non registered vehicles,un licenced drivers and any out standing fines. Drug and alcohol analysing and mobile speed detection..more like a mobile laboratory.
Enjoy some freedom before technology catches up.