Who makes the OEM Brake Pads and Rotors?
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Who makes the OEM Brake Pads and Rotors?
Hello All, I'm sorry for asking but I searched and couldn't find the answer. I have a 2017 F-Type S AWD. Does anyone know who makes the OEM Brake Pads and Rotors? And/Or can recommend where to buy a replacement set?
Please note I've already tried the Porterfields (R4S) and while great for daily driving, they just melted at the track after day 2. I know the RS4 are street pads, but people on this forum suggested they would be good for a track day as well. They were wrong.
Please note I've already tried the Porterfields (R4S) and while great for daily driving, they just melted at the track after day 2. I know the RS4 are street pads, but people on this forum suggested they would be good for a track day as well. They were wrong.
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This link gives some background on OE, OEM, and "genuine" parts. You may find like with the german brands that Jaguar used multiple vendors over time, so the answer to who made the OEM parts is not as straightforward as it seems.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/oe-acad...b-613ab4bf7e24
If online sources are not conclusive, I'd visit the dealer, maybe the parts department would show you a box of what they sell as OEM.
I don't think the folks that told you R4-S pads would work at the track were intentionally misleading you - keep in mind that some tracks are big and have high average speeds and long straightaways that are not as difficult on brakes as tighter, slower more technical tracks. So R4-S pads may work adequately for some people at their local track, while others will quickly exceed the R4-S's operating temperature limits on another.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/oe-acad...b-613ab4bf7e24
If online sources are not conclusive, I'd visit the dealer, maybe the parts department would show you a box of what they sell as OEM.
I don't think the folks that told you R4-S pads would work at the track were intentionally misleading you - keep in mind that some tracks are big and have high average speeds and long straightaways that are not as difficult on brakes as tighter, slower more technical tracks. So R4-S pads may work adequately for some people at their local track, while others will quickly exceed the R4-S's operating temperature limits on another.
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OEM calipers are usually TRW or ATE and OEM pads are usually either TRW or Pagid, it varies by model and year.
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I don't think the folks that told you R4-S pads would work at the track were intentionally misleading you - keep in mind that some tracks are big and have high average speeds and long straightaways that are not as difficult on brakes as tighter, slower more technical tracks. So R4-S pads may work adequately for some people at their local track, while others will quickly exceed the R4-S's operating temperature limits on another.
They are a good low-dust street pad but should not be recommended for track use. The Jag is on the heavy side and these pads are not designed for this use.
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I just ordered a set of Yellowstuff. I'm excited to give them a try. I'm doing Mid-Ohio in April and then Watkins in July. So I'm curious to see how well they perform before I head to Wakins. But I also wanted a set of OEM pads for when I'm street driving.
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Pads are a whole different animal. I wish there was a better track pad fo the Jag, but there isn't. I teeter between the EBC Yellow Stuff and the OEM pads. Neither are great at the track, but I haven't found anything better.
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Jerome - as above the porterfield R4-S are prob the best for street use and low dust. EBC Redstuff for street or yellow for track are good too.
Reznik - what's the concern with drilled rotors vs just slotted? Is it a track only heavy use issue or road use too?
[im torn as I love the look of drilled / slotted but have been through 2x sets on my XF SC and ended up with pulsating brakes both times. Fortunately have CCB on the F Type]
Reznik - what's the concern with drilled rotors vs just slotted? Is it a track only heavy use issue or road use too?
[im torn as I love the look of drilled / slotted but have been through 2x sets on my XF SC and ended up with pulsating brakes both times. Fortunately have CCB on the F Type]
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Jerome - as above the porterfield R4-S are prob the best for street use and low dust. EBC Redstuff for street or yellow for track are good too.
Reznik - what's the concern with drilled rotors vs just slotted? Is it a track only heavy use issue or road use too?
[im torn as I love the look of drilled / slotted but have been through 2x sets on my XF SC and ended up with pulsating brakes both times. Fortunately have CCB on the F Type]
Reznik - what's the concern with drilled rotors vs just slotted? Is it a track only heavy use issue or road use too?
[im torn as I love the look of drilled / slotted but have been through 2x sets on my XF SC and ended up with pulsating brakes both times. Fortunately have CCB on the F Type]
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@BritCars The F-Type is heavy and the rotors take on a lot of heat and stress under track driving conditions. I didn't go very cheap, but I also didn't get super expensive ones... if you are going to be a track rat you need to conserve costs. So I have found that slotted were the best bank-for-the-buck for Track use (they were marginally more expensive than blanks). That is why I suggested avoiding drilled for track. But they are pretty and great option for daily driving.
I actually got pretty good at replacing pads and rotors and kept a set for track vs. daily driving.... so if you plan on doing a lot of track days and like the look of drilled/slotted, i would suggest keeping separate sets for both... it's an hour or so in the garage before and after a track weekend to swap them back and forth.
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Any suggestions for well manufactured drilled/slotted rotors? I've had the R1 Concepts but my second set are pulsating and got to change again. (Actually on my XF but same brake system 380/376mm). Oz - I think you had great experience with R1 but they haven't worked for me. Dealer checked out entire brake system for me and they are sure calipers, system, suspension etc are all fine so they think the pads/rotors just aren't performing. No track use - just street driving
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Any suggestions for well manufactured drilled/slotted rotors? I've had the R1 Concepts but my second set are pulsating and got to change again. (Actually on my XF but same brake system 380/376mm). Oz - I think you had great experience with R1 but they haven't worked for me. Dealer checked out entire brake system for me and they are sure calipers, system, suspension etc are all fine so they think the pads/rotors just aren't performing. No track use - just street driving
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I have been reading this thread with some interest. Thanks for posting.
Just wondering how much of the above advice or particular parts are particular to the type/size of caliper and and rotor.
My V6 MT has the "silver" calipers ... and I will see if the car runs out of stopping power this summer at a track event or two.
Brake Rotor and Caliper Options
Just wondering how much of the above advice or particular parts are particular to the type/size of caliper and and rotor.
My V6 MT has the "silver" calipers ... and I will see if the car runs out of stopping power this summer at a track event or two.
Brake Rotor and Caliper Options
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Any suggestions for well manufactured drilled/slotted rotors? I've had the R1 Concepts but my second set are pulsating and got to change again. (Actually on my XF but same brake system 380/376mm). Oz - I think you had great experience with R1 but they haven't worked for me. Dealer checked out entire brake system for me and they are sure calipers, system, suspension etc are all fine so they think the pads/rotors just aren't performing. No track use - just street driving
Anyway, I don't have R1 Concepts, instead I have Hart brand slotted and drilled bought on Fleabay some six year ago, but I have commented elsewhere that they seem identical to the R1s me and I suspect they are all made in the same factory/ies in China anyway.
My "secret" is proper bedding in when new - 8 or 10 hard brake applications from around 60 mph to around 10 mph (do not stop!) then straight back up to 60 mph rinse and repeat then go for a "cool down lap" before stopping. Get your rotors skimmed/machined, sand/rub the pads free of glaze (or fit new pads), and give it a try.
I have done this with every set of new rotors and/or pads across all three Jags now and I have never once experienced any brake judder whatsoever (often incorrectly called warped discs).
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Any suggestions for well manufactured drilled/slotted rotors? I've had the R1 Concepts but my second set are pulsating and got to change again. (Actually on my XF but same brake system 380/376mm). Oz - I think you had great experience with R1 but they haven't worked for me. Dealer checked out entire brake system for me and they are sure calipers, system, suspension etc are all fine so they think the pads/rotors just aren't performing. No track use - just street driving