Why is the F-type so heavy?
#63
Assuming Car and Driver used the same methods to determine a weight for the different models (below), I surprised that the F-Type isn't shown as being significantly lighter (200-300 lbs) than its bigger brother. I suppose we'll have to see where the weight of the F-Type Coupe comes in to make a real comparison.
2014 F-Type V8 S Convertible: 3974 lbs
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2010 XKR Coupe: 4085 lbs
2007 XKR Coupe: 3870 lbs
2014 XJR L Supercharged Sedan: 4365 lbs
2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51: 3444 lbs
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...trumented-test
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-xkr-road-test
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...ar-xjr-lwb.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...e-stingray.pdf
2014 F-Type V8 S Convertible: 3974 lbs
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2010 XKR Coupe: 4085 lbs
2007 XKR Coupe: 3870 lbs
2014 XJR L Supercharged Sedan: 4365 lbs
2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51: 3444 lbs
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...trumented-test
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-xkr-road-test
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...ar-xjr-lwb.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...e-stingray.pdf
Last edited by amcdonal86; 05-24-2014 at 05:59 PM.
#64
Paste this into your Google search bar
site:media.caranddriver.com/files filetypedf
If you are looking for a particular vehicle then add it to the search string as well.
Only some of the results are the hand written pages though. Most are what they put in the mag in pdf form.
site:media.caranddriver.com/files filetypedf
If you are looking for a particular vehicle then add it to the search string as well.
Only some of the results are the hand written pages though. Most are what they put in the mag in pdf form.
#65
Paste this into your Google search bar
site:media.caranddriver.com/files filetypedf
If you are looking for a particular vehicle then add it to the search string as well.
Only some of the results are the hand written pages though. Most are what they put in the mag in pdf form.
site:media.caranddriver.com/files filetypedf
If you are looking for a particular vehicle then add it to the search string as well.
Only some of the results are the hand written pages though. Most are what they put in the mag in pdf form.
#67
Car and Driver has an article about the new Z06 curb weight
Heavy Hitter: 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Curb Weight Leaked
"From that document we’ve learned that the Corvette Z06 coupe will weigh 3524 pounds"
This is interesting, because the F-Type Coupe R is suppose to have a curb weight of 3671. If these curb weights are accurate (using the same methodology) it puts things into perspective. Maybe the F-Type isn't that heavy afterall...
Heavy Hitter: 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Curb Weight Leaked
"From that document we’ve learned that the Corvette Z06 coupe will weigh 3524 pounds"
This is interesting, because the F-Type Coupe R is suppose to have a curb weight of 3671. If these curb weights are accurate (using the same methodology) it puts things into perspective. Maybe the F-Type isn't that heavy afterall...
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golfhero (08-19-2014)
#70
3,514 lbs. from this Jaguar F-TYPE | Dimensions & Weight | Pricing & Specs
#71
The official weight shows the convertible to be not that much heavier than the equivalent coupe, around 50lbs or so per variant, but chances are that both current versions of our cars are - as is usual in the industry -heavier than the manufacturers published weights.
Last edited by swajames; 08-20-2014 at 01:11 PM.
#72
#73
The F is a hybrid GT/sports car. It needs to be both. Take away the stuff you mention and you get a Lotus Elise - which is fun every now and then, and I have extended drive time in them my self, but aimed at a different market than the F.
People dropping 100K and more on a car tend to like the motors and systems. It's all well and good to say what Jaguar should do, but if they followed the advice to build a lightweight stripper the chances are that no-one would actually pony up the cash and buy one. It's just like the old manual transmission saga. We can all say how much we'd like one and think that the F needs one, but if Jaguar offered the option chances are the take up rate would be somewhat negligible.
There are light sports cars out there, but they're not playing in the F segment. The F is competitive with the cars it is designed to compete against. It's not trying to be an Elise or even an Exige - and nor should it. It's all the better for it.
People dropping 100K and more on a car tend to like the motors and systems. It's all well and good to say what Jaguar should do, but if they followed the advice to build a lightweight stripper the chances are that no-one would actually pony up the cash and buy one. It's just like the old manual transmission saga. We can all say how much we'd like one and think that the F needs one, but if Jaguar offered the option chances are the take up rate would be somewhat negligible.
There are light sports cars out there, but they're not playing in the F segment. The F is competitive with the cars it is designed to compete against. It's not trying to be an Elise or even an Exige - and nor should it. It's all the better for it.
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schraderade (08-21-2014)
#75
The F is a hybrid GT/sports car. It needs to be both. Take away the stuff you mention and you get a Lotus Elise - which is fun every now and then, and I have extended drive time in them my self, but aimed at a different market than the F.
People dropping 100K and more on a car tend to like the motors and systems. It's all well and good to say what Jaguar should do, but if they followed the advice to build a lightweight stripper the chances are that no-one would actually pony up the cash and buy one. It's just like the old manual transmission saga. We can all say how much we'd like one and think that the F needs one, but if Jaguar offered the option chances are the take up rate would be somewhat negligible.
There are light sports cars out there, but they're not playing in the F segment. The F is competitive with the cars it is designed to compete against. It's not trying to be an Elise or even an Exige - and nor should it. It's all the better for it.
People dropping 100K and more on a car tend to like the motors and systems. It's all well and good to say what Jaguar should do, but if they followed the advice to build a lightweight stripper the chances are that no-one would actually pony up the cash and buy one. It's just like the old manual transmission saga. We can all say how much we'd like one and think that the F needs one, but if Jaguar offered the option chances are the take up rate would be somewhat negligible.
There are light sports cars out there, but they're not playing in the F segment. The F is competitive with the cars it is designed to compete against. It's not trying to be an Elise or even an Exige - and nor should it. It's all the better for it.
Lawrence
#76
Competing directly with Porsche or Lotus on sport performance would be suicidal for Jaguar. The balance between luxury/comfort and sports performance is what makes the F-Type a Jaguar foremost, and a commercial success as a result.
In this respect, the F-Type is closer to Aston Martin or Maserati than Lotus or Porsche.
#77
The F is a hybrid GT/sports car. It needs to be both. Take away the stuff you mention and you get a Lotus Elise - which is fun every now and then, and I have extended drive time in them my self, but aimed at a different market than the F.
People dropping 100K and more on a car tend to like the motors and systems. It's all well and good to say what Jaguar should do, but if they followed the advice to build a lightweight stripper the chances are that no-one would actually pony up the cash and buy one. It's just like the old manual transmission saga. We can all say how much we'd like one and think that the F needs one, but if Jaguar offered the option chances are the take up rate would be somewhat negligible.
There are light sports cars out there, but they're not playing in the F segment. The F is competitive with the cars it is designed to compete against. It's not trying to be an Elise or even an Exige - and nor should it. It's all the better for it.
People dropping 100K and more on a car tend to like the motors and systems. It's all well and good to say what Jaguar should do, but if they followed the advice to build a lightweight stripper the chances are that no-one would actually pony up the cash and buy one. It's just like the old manual transmission saga. We can all say how much we'd like one and think that the F needs one, but if Jaguar offered the option chances are the take up rate would be somewhat negligible.
There are light sports cars out there, but they're not playing in the F segment. The F is competitive with the cars it is designed to compete against. It's not trying to be an Elise or even an Exige - and nor should it. It's all the better for it.
Although if it were a physically smaller car, it might then be more in line with people's expectations weight wise.
Porsche seem to do well on the physically smaller approach, but they also manage to find buyers who pay significantly more for a lot less in the way of non-driving related gizmos on the basis that it's a special edition.
#78
If you like the toys, you have to accept it's going to weigh more than you'd think.
Although if it were a physically smaller car, it might then be more in line with people's expectations weight wise.
Porsche seem to do well on the physically smaller approach, but they also manage to find buyers who pay significantly more for a lot less in the way of non-driving related gizmos on the basis that it's a special edition.
Although if it were a physically smaller car, it might then be more in line with people's expectations weight wise.
Porsche seem to do well on the physically smaller approach, but they also manage to find buyers who pay significantly more for a lot less in the way of non-driving related gizmos on the basis that it's a special edition.
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