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Old 09-03-2015, 04:23 PM
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Haven't tried with the F type yet but I used to wax my Z3 wheels with the same zymol wax I used in the car. Then just hose or brush off the brake dust.
 
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Haven't tried with the F type yet but I used to wax my Z3 wheels with the same zymol wax I used in the car. Then just hose or brush off the brake dust.
Don't know if you realize it but you hit a s instead of an a in Bay Area...
 
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Will the brake dust dissapate after bed-in...?
 
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Originally Posted by buickfunnycar.com
Don't know if you realize it but you hit a s instead of an a in Bay Area...
Maybe just in a very busy area of SF.
 
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Originally Posted by BierNut
Maybe just in a very busy area of SF.
I thought of that,lol...
 
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Brake dust is a sign you have a high performance car without ceramic brakes and you are driving right.

Expecting there to be little brake dust is stupid.
 
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The dark grey/cf Blade wheels definitely hide the dust pretty well, you can see it if you are looking for it, but a quick glance and you don't notice it at all.
 
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Originally Posted by StealthPilot
Brake dust is a sign you have a high performance car without ceramic brakes and you are driving right.

Expecting there to be little brake dust is stupid.
I've driven and owned plenty of high performance cars (Japanese and American) that don't dust 1/10th as much as my BMW 435i. The primary thing that excessive dust means is that it wasn't a consideration when they were designing the car. I think that putting so much effort in to designing a car that looks beautiful only to have it crap all over itself is stupid.
 
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BMW's and Mercedes are the worst...
 
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I use Akebono on my 2000 XKR and they are very clean. Can't find them for f-Type but I did stumble upon this:
EBC® - Jaguar F-Type 2015 Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads
 
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Wheel woolies are the best for quick cleaning.
Additionally using a good quality wheel wax will save so much headache. This will really help prevent the dust from sticking in the paint.

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Old 09-03-2015, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Greggbhill
I use Akebono on my 2000 XKR and they are very clean. Can't find them for f-Type but I did stumble upon this:
EBC® - Jaguar F-Type 2015 Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads
Thanks for the link. I think you're on to something here. They list several options, but it's not clear which brake option they're for; Performance, High Performance or Super Performance. The Performance brakes have 354mm front discs while the High Performance and Super Performance have 380mm front discs. Don't know if the front pads are the same on the second two or not. The Performance brakes and High Performance brakes have 325mm rear discs. Again, don't know if the pads are the same. The Super Performance brakes have 376mm rear discs. EBC appears to be out of the UK. They have not updated their online catalog in a couple of years and don't seem to have an interactive fitment guide either. I may just have to give them a call. Hopefully they speak English well enough for me to understand. Oh, wait. They have a location in Nevada. I'll call there first.
 
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I used wheel wax. Did not improve on "3 day wheel" but made it much easier to dust off in between cleaning. A lot of work to put on!
 
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Originally Posted by Bret_T
Thanks for the link. I think you're on to something here. They list several options, but it's not clear which brake option they're for; Performance, High Performance or Super Performance. The Performance brakes have 354mm front discs while the High Performance and Super Performance have 380mm front discs. Don't know if the front pads are the same on the second two or not. The Performance brakes and High Performance brakes have 325mm rear discs. Again, don't know if the pads are the same. The Super Performance brakes have 376mm rear discs. EBC appears to be out of the UK. They have not updated their online catalog in a couple of years and don't seem to have an interactive fitment guide either. I may just have to give them a call. Hopefully they speak English well enough for me to understand. Oh, wait. They have a location in Nevada. I'll call there first.
This is the same option we were looking at about a year ago, and as was said above they don't make pads that fit the F-Type yet. Perhaps you missed post below.

Originally Posted by Mulmur
I checked with a manufacturer of aftermarket pads ( EBC.. they make 'red stuff' pads) at the beginning of the year and they advised that they are not making ceramics to fit the f-type R, yet.. check back at end of the year)
 
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Originally Posted by Bret_T
I've driven and owned plenty of high performance cars (Japanese and American) that don't dust 1/10th as much as my BMW 435i. The primary thing that excessive dust means is that it wasn't a consideration when they were designing the car. I think that putting so much effort in to designing a car that looks beautiful only to have it crap all over itself is stupid.
So "do my wheels get dirty too quickly?" should be a major concern when designing and building a sports car? I suppose the way you've phrased the issue points to a different mindset than mine. I'll counter by saying that I think that compromising function of a car designed to work well so that the wheels stay clean is stupid.
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
So "do my wheels get dirty too quickly?" should be a major concern when designing and building a sports car? I suppose the way you've phrased the issue points to a different mindset than mine. I'll counter by saying that I think that compromising function of a car designed to work well so that the wheels stay clean is stupid.
While I agree that compromising function is stupid if there is not a better alternative, there are alternatives that do not do that. MB now has a brake pad formula that sheds significantly less dust. My wife's '15 C-300 with the optional AMG sports package has bigger brakes and stops better than my F-Type, according to the test numbers, yet sheds virtually no visible black dust.

EBC also manufactures a pad that is very low dusting and compromises no function. It just isn't available for the F-Type.

However, the high dust pads have been around much longer, and I suspect are considerably less expensive.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
This is the same option we were looking at about a year ago, and as was said above they don't make pads that fit the F-Type yet. Perhaps you missed post below.
FYI, I checked with StopTech earlier today to see if they had any plans to introduce Posi Quiet Ceramic Brake Pads for the F-Type R. They indicated that they do not, and recommended the the Posi Quiet Semi-Metallic Brake Pads instead.

They mentioned that they don't typically offer ceramic pads for European cars as they are designed to work with abrasive friction materials, so the Semi-Metallic pads are a better choice. They mentioned they have lower noise and dust characteristics then the OE pads.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
This is the same option we were looking at about a year ago, and as was said above they don't make pads that fit the F-Type yet. Perhaps you missed post below.
I saw that, but if you click on the like it says that the availability is "manufactured", there are different prices for several options, and ships within 2-3 weeks. What am I missing?


Originally Posted by lizzardo
So "do my wheels get dirty too quickly?" should be a major concern when designing and building a sports car? I suppose the way you've phrased the issue points to a different mindset than mine. I'll counter by saying that I think that compromising function of a car designed to work well so that the wheels stay clean is stupid.
Foosh covered most of what I would have said, but I'll add that I think it should be a consideration just like brake noise, the looks of the car, exhaust sound, etc. If it was just all about performance (for the money), I'd probably just buy a Corvette. However, it just doesn't look near as good in my opinion.
 
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I saw that, but if you click on the like it says that the availability is "manufactured", there are different prices for several options, and ships within 2-3 weeks. What am I missing?
I called the number on the CarID link above this morning. I talked to a "technical specialist" (Josh), who spent some time doing research. He says they will have the "Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Pads" that will fit the High Performance Brakes in 2-3 weeks. Not sure if he meant that were also compatible with the Super Performance brakes. I mentioned to them they should amend their website to say it fits F-Types with the High Performance Brakes and Super Performance brakes if that is the case. Their website just says "fits 2015 F-Type."

They were more sure that they would not fit the std. Performance Brakes. However, they do have Centric front pad (part # 64630087) that will fit base (w/ Perf brakes) 14-15 vehicles with VINs higher than K01000. They claim "low dust," but I'd be hesitant to order those without knowing that they perform as well as the OEMs. They're $60 a pair, so that makes me suspicious they're not up to snuff.

I don't think I clarified much about what the EBCs fit, and there still seems to be much confusion.
 

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Brake dust is the worst I've seen with no reduction now at 15k miles. I tried the Meguiars, and finally switched to black wheels. Some amount of dust, but much less visible...
 


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