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Retrofit of the Blind Spot Monitor for the XF X250 has been very well documented on the XF forum by TOXO.
He provided a very organized and well detailed manual (which should be considered for a STICKY).
Carrying TOXO's work a step farther, I hope to transplant the concept to an XK convertible using OEM parts. (not necessarily new parts.)
I'm fortunate to be working with FW93-14F152-BD units with 8 pin connectors from 2016-2019+ XF, F-Pace, XJ, and XE.
Assistance with the new 8 pin pin-out would be very much appreciated.Especially Pins 3, 4, and 8.
Example Pin-out for the 6 pin connector on the Jaguar/Valeo 8X and 9X radar sensors:
Jaguar / Valeo 8X and 9X radar/sensor unit pin-out provided by TOXO
This diagram don’t represent the wiring loom I have soured and I have 2 bumper looms and both are the same
pin 4 is capped at factory and goes no where and pin3 and 8 are sliced together
anyone have another diagram at all please
This diagram don’t represent the wiring loom I have soured and I have 2 bumper looms and both are the same
pin 4 is capped at factory and goes no where and pin3 and 8 are sliced together
anyone have another diagram at all please
this diagram is not the correct one for the XF 260
I will add the correct pin out once I have completed it
totally different the way it communicates
The wiring diagram above is from the F-Type but pin-out should be the same for other applications of the 8-pin FW93-14F152-BD modules.
Your real world findings will be appreciated.
The wiring diagram above is from the F-Type but pin-out should be the same for other applications of the 8-pin FW93-14F152-BD modules.
Your real world findings will be appreciated.
Bill
This is for the xf260 it does not have any wires going to the doors and communicates over hs can left module has 2 lives right has 2 negitive so think this is how it tells which is left and right and has a local can between them both As far as I have worked out
Left n/s
Pin 1 and 2 local can
Pin 3 live
Pin 4 n/c
Pin 5 negitive
Pin6 and 7 hs can
Pin 8 live
Right o/s
Pin 1 and 2 local can
Pin 3 negitive
Pin 4 n/c Pin 5 negitive
Pin 6 and 7 hs can
Pin 8 live
even without the modules connected I get the dot on the mirror as they connect to the door modules and are prewired in the doors upto the mirror connector
The F-Type diagram above applies to vin k22184 and below. TheFW93-14F152-BD modules apply to F-Type k22185 and above as well as XE and others.
I was mixing apples and oranges. Thank you for the astute observation and heads up. Saved a lot of head scratching.
So, the newer BSM modules are fully integrated with the HS (not MS) CAN and output to the notification LEDs is via the door module! That make sense as CAN is intended to eliminate hard wiring. However, it is less practical for a retrofit. Integrating BSM to the MS CAN and hard wire to the mirrors is challenging enough.
The FW93 modules will go on Ebay and focus changes to 9X modules and hardwire to mirrors.
Thanks again for your assistance.
Bill
Last edited by Bill400; 10-29-2021 at 01:36 PM.
Reason: spacing
The F-Type diagram above applies to vin k22184 and below. TheFW93-14F152-BD modules apply to F-Type k22185 and above as well as XE and others.
I was mixing apples and oranges. Thank you for the astute observation and heads up. Saved a lot of head scratching.
So, the newer BSM modules are fully integrated with the HS (not MS) CAN and output to the notification LEDs is via the door module! That make sense as CAN is intended to eliminate hard wiring. However, it is less practical for a retrofit. Integrating BSM to the MS CAN and hard wire to the mirrors is challenging enough.
The FW93 modules will go on Ebay and focus changes to 9X modules and hardwire to mirrors.
Thanks again for your assistance.
Bill
I have connected the modules to my car and they aren’t even recognised by the car have a orange question mark as if they are not installed stumped I am
Since your BSM on the 2017 XF communicates through the door modules to the mirrors, do you need to upgrade the door modules?
Also, it appears that you should sort out the communications on SDD.
The TOXO thread Side Object Detection / Blind Spot Monitoring Retrofit - Page 2 - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
is the best source of information at this time.
The JLR modules have gone through several versions now:
8X and 9x are six pin connectors, connected to the MS CAN Bus, with hard wire from the modules to the mirrors.
DPLA-14D455 (14- early16 F-Type and others) are eight pin connectors, connected to MS CAN, with hard wire from the modules to the mirrors. FW93-14F152 (2016 and on XJ, XF, XE, F-pace and others) are eight pin connectors, connected to HS CAN, with communications via CAN door modules to the mirrors.
The preceding information was derived from various sources and believed to be correct.
Bill
Last edited by Bill400; 10-30-2021 at 02:16 PM.
Reason: Add info
Supermans1,
It appears that you should sort out the communications on SDD.
The TOXO thread Side Object Detection / Blind Spot Monitoring Retrofit - Page 2 - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
is the best source of information at this time.
The JLR modules have gone through several versions now:
8X and 9x are six pin connectors, connected to the MS CAN Bus, with hard wire from the modules to the mirrors.
DPLA-14D455 (14- early16 F-Type and others) are eight pin connectors, connected to MS CAN, with hard wire from the modules to the mirrors. FW93-14F152 (2016 and on XJ, XF, XE, F-pace and others) are eight pin connectors, connected to HS CAN, with communications via CAN door modules to the mirrors.
The preceding information was derived from various sources and believed to be correct.
Bill
do you have any idea why they won’t communicate though as I have connected them but they are not seen by my car I have the dots on the mirrors on and a fault on the dash
the ones I got are from a xe and had the connectors on with the Color’s of the later modules where pin 4 isn’t used just not sure why ssd isn’t communicating with them
I can’t even add them to my as built file as I don’t know what to add
Supermans1,
Have you determined that your door modules are the correct spec to communicate with the BSM via CAN?
Also, you need to edit your as built XML file as outlined in post #26: Side Object Detection / Blind Spot Monitoring Retrofit - Page 2 - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
If the door modules are the correct spec, they too may require reprogramming.
My vehicle does not have an option for BSM spec door modules. So, thanks to the information that you provided above, I'll be using the 9X (hard wire to mirror) BSM modules instead of the FW93-14F152-BD units as originally planned.
Supermans1,
Have you determined that your door modules are the correct spec to communicate with the BSM via CAN?
Also, you need to edit your as built XML file as outlined in post #26: Side Object Detection / Blind Spot Monitoring Retrofit - Page 2 - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum
If the door modules are the correct spec, they too may require reprogramming.
My vehicle does not have an option for BSM spec door modules. So, thanks to the information that you provided above, I'll be using the 9X (hard wire to mirror) BSM modules instead of the FW93-14F152-BD units as originally planned.
best regards,
Bill
yes door modules are fine as when I edit the ccf the dots come on indicating a fault
I beleave I have brought the wrong ones and are for a later vehicle so have ordered the correct one so we see next week