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I also received my "Mangoose", ordered from AliExpress:
JLR Mangoose for Jaguar and Land Rover V134 Newest Version-in Electrical Testers & Test Leads from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com
The actual delivered unit says "Mongoose" and has a Drew Technologies sticker with serial on it.
3 DVD's accompany the cable, with V134 of SDD.
Installed in XP SP3 running in VMWare. Connected to the Jag, everything works just fine, no connection issues at all.
JLR Mangoose for Jaguar and Land Rover V134 Newest Version-in Electrical Testers & Test Leads from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com
The actual delivered unit says "Mongoose" and has a Drew Technologies sticker with serial on it.
3 DVD's accompany the cable, with V134 of SDD.
Installed in XP SP3 running in VMWare. Connected to the Jag, everything works just fine, no connection issues at all.
I installed in vmware XP Sp3 Pro and then installed SDD 131 and it doesn't work. My issue is that it won't connect the cable, I can see the blue usb thing come up and the usb sound come up in Xp VM but it doesn't come up with the pop up on the bottom right with mongoose connected etc.
On my native install it comes up with mongoose attached or disconnected etc but won't on the VM :S Tried the java install and also tried v130
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Hi everybody,
Yesterday I finally attempted to install IDS-SDD on my laptop after I received my chinese Mongoose (no time to do it before).
To make it short, I didn't succeed.
My laptop has a Core2 duo, 120 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64bit, on which I had installed a Virtual Machine XP Pro SP3 (2GB RAM allocated) working in 32bit (I had read here that this seemed to be a convenient system).
I first loaded Adobe Reader and Java 6 update 26 on the VM, then worked offline.
The loading of V131 on the VM from the set of DVD/CD purchased separately in UK was painful as it often stopped without completing. After many trials, I however succeeded to install V131_FULL.exe on the C drive of the VM.
However, when I tried (still offline) to put the login/password provided, it didn't work, the process of identification circling endlessly.
When I informed the seller of the issue asking him if the login/password were still valid, he told me yes and said that the software provided only worked with XP Pro SP2 or SP3 (fair enough, that's what I did) but that it would not work on a virtual machine, it had to be installed on the physical C drive (not even the D drive of XP Pro), adding that this software is very critical on the installation hardware. He also recommended to set the date of the laptop to August 2012 to avoid the programming function from timing out (but I'm still not at that point, not yet started to load the calibration files from the CD, though I had already changed the clock of my laptop to 31 December 2012).
That's why I am seeking advice here. I had read that several people succeeded in installing IDS-SDD on a VM. Could those who did it or somebody knowledgeable please tell me if there would be any trick to make it succeed? Could it be e.g. a matter of the size of allocated memory for the page file or the cache (I decreased them to avoid the many copy/read on the SSD to preserve its life), e.g. a bug at the time of restart of the laptop to complete the reconfiguration after installation (the size of the software is indeed in the 5GB range...)?
Thx for your help.
Serge
Yesterday I finally attempted to install IDS-SDD on my laptop after I received my chinese Mongoose (no time to do it before).
To make it short, I didn't succeed.
My laptop has a Core2 duo, 120 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64bit, on which I had installed a Virtual Machine XP Pro SP3 (2GB RAM allocated) working in 32bit (I had read here that this seemed to be a convenient system).
I first loaded Adobe Reader and Java 6 update 26 on the VM, then worked offline.
The loading of V131 on the VM from the set of DVD/CD purchased separately in UK was painful as it often stopped without completing. After many trials, I however succeeded to install V131_FULL.exe on the C drive of the VM.
However, when I tried (still offline) to put the login/password provided, it didn't work, the process of identification circling endlessly.
When I informed the seller of the issue asking him if the login/password were still valid, he told me yes and said that the software provided only worked with XP Pro SP2 or SP3 (fair enough, that's what I did) but that it would not work on a virtual machine, it had to be installed on the physical C drive (not even the D drive of XP Pro), adding that this software is very critical on the installation hardware. He also recommended to set the date of the laptop to August 2012 to avoid the programming function from timing out (but I'm still not at that point, not yet started to load the calibration files from the CD, though I had already changed the clock of my laptop to 31 December 2012).
That's why I am seeking advice here. I had read that several people succeeded in installing IDS-SDD on a VM. Could those who did it or somebody knowledgeable please tell me if there would be any trick to make it succeed? Could it be e.g. a matter of the size of allocated memory for the page file or the cache (I decreased them to avoid the many copy/read on the SSD to preserve its life), e.g. a bug at the time of restart of the laptop to complete the reconfiguration after installation (the size of the software is indeed in the 5GB range...)?
Thx for your help.
Serge
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I have tried several different methods for installing the SDD software most of which involved Virtual Machines. In the end I have a laptop with an XP partition it is the only real success I have had in connection with the car.
I tried VMware and Parallels and sometimes they would connect sometimes they would not, sometimes the data read appeared suspect. Now I have success in reading every time.
I now want to find how I get to the software download module so I can modify the CCF if someone has a simple getting started guide that I can start from I would be very grateful.
I tried VMware and Parallels and sometimes they would connect sometimes they would not, sometimes the data read appeared suspect. Now I have success in reading every time.
I now want to find how I get to the software download module so I can modify the CCF if someone has a simple getting started guide that I can start from I would be very grateful.
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First, completely uninstall the SDS/IDS software. Uninstall any antivirus packages including the Microsoft built in antivirus. Not just turn them off, uninstall them. Also turn off the firewall. The OS will bitch at complain, but just ignore it. Install the software and you should be good to go.
Sounds scary, right? Well, if you are using a VM, turn off networking to the VM. It won't matter if the OS has networking turned on it won't be able to connect to anything. Make sure you turn off all sharing to the VM, that way the VM can't get to any other hard drives.
For the other parameters, I think I set it up for 1GB of ram and a 40GB partition. I used an external USB hard drive to install the VM on so I wouldn't take up space on my primary hard drive.
It's all about the antivirus software, plain and simple. Build a dedicated VM for only the software (you had the versions correct for Java and Adobe) and don't mix anything personal into the VM, and don't let it talk to the outside world and you will be fine.
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I had the same issues.
First, completely uninstall the SDS/IDS software. Uninstall any antivirus packages including the Microsoft built in antivirus. Not just turn them off, uninstall them. Also turn off the firewall. The OS will bitch at complain, but just ignore it. Install the software and you should be good to go.
Sounds scary, right? Well, if you are using a VM, turn off networking to the VM. It won't matter if the OS has networking turned on it won't be able to connect to anything. Make sure you turn off all sharing to the VM, that way the VM can't get to any other hard drives.
For the other parameters, I think I set it up for 1GB of ram and a 40GB partition. I used an external USB hard drive to install the VM on so I wouldn't take up space on my primary hard drive.
It's all about the antivirus software, plain and simple. Build a dedicated VM for only the software (you had the versions correct for Java and Adobe) and don't mix anything personal into the VM, and don't let it talk to the outside world and you will be fine.
First, completely uninstall the SDS/IDS software. Uninstall any antivirus packages including the Microsoft built in antivirus. Not just turn them off, uninstall them. Also turn off the firewall. The OS will bitch at complain, but just ignore it. Install the software and you should be good to go.
Sounds scary, right? Well, if you are using a VM, turn off networking to the VM. It won't matter if the OS has networking turned on it won't be able to connect to anything. Make sure you turn off all sharing to the VM, that way the VM can't get to any other hard drives.
For the other parameters, I think I set it up for 1GB of ram and a 40GB partition. I used an external USB hard drive to install the VM on so I wouldn't take up space on my primary hard drive.
It's all about the antivirus software, plain and simple. Build a dedicated VM for only the software (you had the versions correct for Java and Adobe) and don't mix anything personal into the VM, and don't let it talk to the outside world and you will be fine.
1. Antivirus: When you say uninstall the antivirus, do you mean uninstall it from the VM or from both the parent machine and the VM? If so, I should uninstall Avira Antivir from the parent machine (there is no Antivir on the VM). I have also installed Malwarebytes on both machines (not active, only on request to scan/doublecheck downloaded items); should I uninstall also Malwarebytes from both machines?
2. Firewall: there is no Antivirus built in Windows 7 or Win XP, only the Firewall in XP and what they call Security esentials in Win7 that work like a firewall. I turned them off both. Not sure I can uninstall them as they seem integrated within the OS. Do you think it's OK or I should look more in detail to find out the specific program and unisntall them?
3. When you say turn off networking, I understand working off line, what I did once all my applications (Java, Adobe) were loaded. The integration features between the VM and parent machine are kept however, otherwise the VM cannot work. So, in a way, there is some kind of minimum sharing of the VM with the parent machine.
4. If you infer that there should be no sharing at all, maybe you are talking of two OS installed on a partitioned disk, so not what is the Microsoft Win XP VM with Windows 7. Actually, when you build the Microoft Win XP VM, you are requested to allocate specific RAM but you are not requested to allocate a dedicated space for the virtual drive, I understand it uses what it needs from the C drive of the main machine. Did you use some other virtualisation process (VMware?) where disk allocation is requested/possible?
5. As an alternative to the VM, you can indeed install two OS on the same machine if you partition your disk or if you have two physical disks, e.g. Win 7 64 on the C drive and, on a second drive dedicated to SDD, a fresh install of Win XP Pro SP3 complemented by the SDD programme and data. From what I read, this is a more challenging installation to ensure that both OS work successfully without loosing in particular the boot.ini of Win XP. Is this what you did?
6. My intention was, and still is to dedicate the laptop to SDD, but keeping Windows 7 installed for posssible future other use, also because Win XP will soon not be maintained by Microsoft. With 128 GB I have ample space on my disc for both Win 7 and Win XP, and SDD and the calibration files. And as far as I use it for SDD the laptop will not be connected to the outside world or to store personal files.
I hope I am not asking too much
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Just in case others are in need, I'm setting up a link to the 'older' mongoose drivers that I was forced to use with my SDD v130. The Pro didn't work with the clone, and the one on the disc wasn't stable either with newer SDD versions succeeding 128.
J2534 64-bit version J2534 32-bit version
J2534 64-bit version J2534 32-bit version
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1. Antivirus: Do NOT uninstall from the parent machine. Only the VM.
2. Firewall: Keep Security Essentials turned off. It's on both Win7 and XP
3. When you say turn off networking, - There should be a setting on your VM to turn networking sharing from the parent machine to the VM off. This prevents the VM from getting to the internet.
4. If you infer that there should be no sharing at all, maybe you are talking of two OS installed on a partitioned disk, so not what is the Microsoft Win XP VM with Windows 7. I'm talking about directory sharing. If you can see any of the directories of the parent machine from the VM, you need to turn that off. I'm not implying that there is anything in the software that might do harm, I'm just being extra cautious in sandboxing an unknown software package. I've had zero indication that there is anything malicious in the SDS/IDS cloned software. But better safe than sorry.
5. As an alternative to the VM, you can indeed install two OS on the same machine if you partition your disk or if you have two physical disks, e.g. Win 7 64 on the C drive and, on a second drive dedicated to SDD, a fresh install of Win XP Pro SP3 complemented by the SDD programme and data. From what I read, this is a more challenging installation to ensure that both OS work successfully without loosing in particular the boot.ini of Win XP. Is this what you did?
No, but that works.
6. My intention was, and still is to dedicate the laptop to SDD, but keeping Windows 7 installed for posssible future other use, also because Win XP will soon not be maintained by Microsoft. With 128 GB I have ample space on my disc for both Win 7 and Win XP, and SDD and the calibration files. And as far as I use it for SDD the laptop will not be connected to the outside world or to store personal files.
That's the best solution if you have a dedicated laptop you can use.
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Thanks.
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XP SP3 in VMWare directly within Mac OSX, and installed on a separate USB hardddrive.
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Hi, everyone, I live in northern New Jersey, USA. I now own a 'China' JLR Mongoose which came with IDS V134 software. My Jag is a 2003.5 X350 and they aren't compatible. Can anyone in or near northern New Jersey, USA help me obtain IDS V127 - V131.01? Anything newer requires a Topix subscription. I can travel to you and don't mind a paying little compensation.
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Hi, everyone, I live in northern New Jersey, USA. I now own a 'China' JLR Mongoose which came with IDS V134 software. My Jag is a 2003.5 X350 and they aren't compatible. Can anyone in or near northern New Jersey, USA help me obtain IDS V127 - V131.01? Anything newer requires a Topix subscription. I can travel to you and don't mind a paying little compensation.
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I did it, even though I also purchased a chinese Mongoose with v134.
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Hey Group, I'm not a newbie, I had issues with my old email so I just restarted my account to make it easy.
I've found JLR software and cable from British Diagnostics / JLR Software Specialists on eBay for 151.00 + shipping.
Anyone here bought this, it's another one of those "seems to good to be true" things.
Thanks!
I've found JLR software and cable from British Diagnostics / JLR Software Specialists on eBay for 151.00 + shipping.
Anyone here bought this, it's another one of those "seems to good to be true" things.
Thanks!
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Someone on the Uk forum posted about this but it has now been removed.
I have seen the u tube video on this.
It looks genuine to me.
I bought a clone but had problems with the software,had to buy more software plus calib files.
I am not sure if it works properly now since I haven't had to use it in anger.
I have seen the u tube video on this.
It looks genuine to me.
I bought a clone but had problems with the software,had to buy more software plus calib files.
I am not sure if it works properly now since I haven't had to use it in anger.
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Hi, I have recently been trying to get a JLRmongoose Pro and SDD software setup.
I now have it working but the next problem I have is complaints from software that
Battery voltage is getting low. I see your mention of a battery conditioner/ power supply
I have a good battery charger/conditioner as I used to leave my previous car connected for
Weeks whilst it was not being used. Is it safe to connect this across battery while using SDD. My car is 2011 XFR. I haven't even looked at battery yet (very new to this) I am by trade an electronics engineer . But theory is one thing, getting proven answers is better.
I now have it working but the next problem I have is complaints from software that
Battery voltage is getting low. I see your mention of a battery conditioner/ power supply
I have a good battery charger/conditioner as I used to leave my previous car connected for
Weeks whilst it was not being used. Is it safe to connect this across battery while using SDD. My car is 2011 XFR. I haven't even looked at battery yet (very new to this) I am by trade an electronics engineer . But theory is one thing, getting proven answers is better.
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