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Old 04-07-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jag_Generation
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ELM327 Work with a 1999 XK8 ?

just a little question as the title, ELM with proscan 5.9 could work in a '99 XK8 ?
Someone could tell me please definitely if a 1999 XK8 is OBD2 compliant ?

Thanks a lot to anyone who will answer

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Post 1996 they are supposed to be OBDII. My mom's 1998 XJ8 is. My guess is that your's is.
 
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:15 PM
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The system I just purchased from AE only supports non-OBD enhanced data. While the data is mostly the same as generic OBD data, it does not include onboard system test/ drive cycle data, O2 sensor graph data, and Mode 6 Report data. I talked with the AE tech on the phone and said it had to do with the pins on the new ProLine VCI and as a result it only supported the Jaguar enhanced data. In talking with my Jaguar mechanic, his older version (he may have had an AE OBD-II connector) of AE does both. It might be possible to use another connector with the AE software.
 
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:44 PM
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Spitfire: P1111 code is "system pass" on a Jaguar ie no codes found.
 
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:47 PM
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All vehicles built after 1996 are or should be OBD2 compliant, it's the comlexity of the ECU that allows you to read some or all the systems in your car.Some manufactures let you read model, all the O2 systems, do tests, some do just the basis like RPM,codes,ect. it varies from model to model,manufacture to manufacture, even year to year. A 99 xk8 should be ok.
 
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Originally Posted by H20boy
This list will serve as a reference for those owners who are looking to purchase and own their very own.

Recommended
  • AutoEnginuity, tested on 2003 XK8, 2000 XJ8 and 2004 STR (enhanced sensor/function availability, for an additional charge (issues with 1996 and older)
  • TOPTQK, tested on 2000 XKR and 2003 S-typeR
  • Innova 2030, tested on 2001 XK8 and 2004 XJ8
  • Innova 3030, tested on 2001 S-Type, 2008 XKR and 1996 XJR6
  • Innova 3100, tested on 2002 XK8 (My 3 year old INNOVA 3100 says 'CAN compatible' on the face, has the color coded LEDs and PC link reports)
  • Innova 3120, tested on 1995 XJ12
  • Innova 3130, tested on 2000 XJ8
  • CodeKey, tested on 1995 XJ6, 1999 XK8
  • Actron CP9035, tested on 2003 X-type
  • Actron CP9175, tested on 2001 S-Type and 1996 XJR6
  • Actron CP9180, tested on 2004 S-type
  • Actron CP9185, tested on 2002 XKR
  • Actron CP9125, tested on 2003 S-Type
  • OBDkey, tested on 2001 S-type and X350 XJR
  • OBDCOM, tested on 1998 XJR, 2000 XK8, 2001 S-Type, 2003 S-type, 2005 S-Type R and 2009 XF
  • CEN-TECH 94169, tested on 2007 XJ8
  • CEN-TECH 98614-2VGA Scanner, tested on 2000 XK8 with real time data logging
  • CanOBD2 3030, tested on 2002 X-type
  • carcode.com software based and cable unit, tested on 2001 XKR and 2003 S-type
  • ELM327 bluetooth or hardwired version, with Torque app (for Android), tested on 1998 XJR, 2003 XJ8 and 2005 XJ8,
  • Kiwi PLX bluetooth, with Torque app (for Android), tested on 2003 S-Type R
  • Memoscan U480, tested on 1999 XJR and 2006 S-type
  • ProScan under www.myscantool.com, tested successfully on 1996 XJR6, 2003 XJ8, and 2001 S-Type
Not-Recommended
  • CarCode ODBCII reader from CostCo
  • ProScan listed under www.myscantool.com (slight contradiction with a recommendation also)
  • Actron Pocketscan Plus 9550
  • Auto Xray AX1500 CodeScout
  • more coming, I'm sure
If you have a scanner that you know either works, or doesn't, please add to this thread, provide a link if you can, and i'll update the 'master' list here accordingly. If it only does basic Engine and Transmission codes, please let us know. There are so many sensors that the Jag dealer software can read, there are not many aftermarket ones that can.

Take a look at all of the sensors covered by the AutoEnginuity unit.

Please place the vehicle year and model that you know it works well with if you would.

If you're scanner is already on the 'approved' list, but your car isn't, feel free to let us know in this thread.
ELM327 USB for Windows 7 PC based working on a 1999 XK8 4.0 with Scanmaster-ELM 2.1 and ScanXL
 
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by H20boy
This list will serve as a reference for those owners who are looking to purchase and own their very own.

Recommended
  • AutoEnginuity, tested on 2003 XK8, 2000 XJ8 and 2004 STR (enhanced sensor/function availability, for an additional charge (issues with 1996 and older)
  • TOPTQK, tested on 2000 XKR and 2003 S-typeR
  • Innova 2030, tested on 2001 XK8 and 2004 XJ8
  • Innova 3030, tested on 2001 S-Type, 2008 XKR and 1996 XJR6
  • Innova 3100, tested on 2002 XK8 (My 3 year old INNOVA 3100 says 'CAN compatible' on the face, has the color coded LEDs and PC link reports)
  • Innova 3120, tested on 1995 XJ12
  • Innova 3130, tested on 2000 XJ8
  • CodeKey, tested on 1995 XJ6, 1999 XK8
  • Actron CP9035, tested on 2003 X-type
  • Actron CP9175, tested on 2001 S-Type and 1996 XJR6
  • Actron CP9180, tested on 2004 S-type
  • Actron CP9185, tested on 2002 XKR
  • Actron CP9125, tested on 2003 S-Type
  • OBDkey, tested on 2001 S-type and X350 XJR
  • OBDCOM, tested on 1998 XJR, 2000 XK8, 2001 S-Type, 2003 S-type, 2005 S-Type R and 2009 XF
  • CEN-TECH 94169, tested on 2007 XJ8
  • CEN-TECH 98614-2VGA Scanner, tested on 2000 XK8 with real time data logging
  • CanOBD2 3030, tested on 2002 X-type
  • carcode.com software based and cable unit, tested on 2001 XKR and 2003 S-type
  • ELM327 bluetooth or hardwired version, with Torque app (for Android), tested on 1998 XJR, 2003 XJ8 and 2005 XJ8,
  • Kiwi PLX bluetooth, with Torque app (for Android), tested on 2003 S-Type R
  • Memoscan U480, tested on 1999 XJR and 2006 S-type
  • ProScan under www.myscantool.com, tested successfully on 1996 XJR6, 2003 XJ8, and 2001 S-Type
Not-Recommended
  • CarCode ODBCII reader from CostCo
  • ProScan listed under www.myscantool.com (slight contradiction with a recommendation also)
  • Actron Pocketscan Plus 9550
  • Auto Xray AX1500 CodeScout
  • more coming, I'm sure
If you have a scanner that you know either works, or doesn't, please add to this thread, provide a link if you can, and i'll update the 'master' list here accordingly. If it only does basic Engine and Transmission codes, please let us know. There are so many sensors that the Jag dealer software can read, there are not many aftermarket ones that can.

Take a look at all of the sensors covered by the AutoEnginuity unit.

Please place the vehicle year and model that you know it works well with if you would.

If you're scanner is already on the 'approved' list, but your car isn't, feel free to let us know in this thread.

I have used GoPoint which is for iPad and iPhone, you can get most engine sensor readings but not all. I have used it on 2003 X-Type, 2003 STR, 2005 S-Type
 
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:19 PM
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Thanks for the additional recommendation 03xtype!
 
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:08 PM
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What's my best bet for getting all Jaguar codes using my iPhone, iPad, and/or Mac?
 
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OldMike
What's my best bet for getting all Jaguar codes using my iPhone, iPad, and/or Mac?
GoPoint would be your most inexpensive option for the apple stuff but I have not tested it on your specific car, I have plugged it in to 100s of cars at the auction with no issues.
 
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Old 05-12-2012, 05:54 AM
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Thanks but you said it gets most of the engine codes -- does it get all of the other codes, too? In other words, if you go to the Jaguar Engine Module List page and see what sensors are covered there, does the GoPoint read all of those or just the basic engine codes?
 
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:00 AM
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Thanks but you said it gets most of the engine codes -- does it get all of the other codes, too? In other words, if you go to the Jaguar Engine Module List page and see what sensors are covered there, does the GoPoint read all of those or just the basic engine codes?
In my experience it can read and erase the check engine light with out causing any issues. Don't expect it to work on body codes, srs, abs ect.... I think once I used it to read an srs code on a AMG but I wasn't able to erase it.
 

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Old 05-12-2012, 03:38 PM
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Thanks again, I appreciate the info.
 
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I was ready to pull the trigger on an AE, but after reading this thread, I've noticed some folks claim it doesn't integrate well with the XJ8. Is this still the case?
 
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mechelement
I was ready to pull the trigger on an AE, but after reading this thread, I've noticed some folks claim it doesn't integrate well with the XJ8. Is this still the case?
I've got a six year old AE (the version before the Jaguar expansion option.) It's been used with my 2000 XJ8L, 2001 XK8 and 2005 XK8. No issues other than it can sometimes take more than one go to pair it with the vehicle.

This experience and nothing I've read to date puts me off upgrading to the current version with Jaguar expansion later this year. Except, of course, having to buy the whole package because AE don't offer an upgrade or discount.

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Old 05-14-2012, 12:27 PM
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I've got a six year old AE (the version before the Jaguar expansion option.) It's been used with my 2000 XJ8L, 2001 XK8 and 2005 XK8. No issues other than it can sometimes take more than one go to pair it with the vehicle.

This experience and nothing I've read to date puts me off upgrading to the current version with Jaguar expansion later this year. Except, of course, having to buy the whole package because AE don't offer an upgrade or discount.

Graham
Ouch, no upgrade option?

Thus the standard AE will successfully read standard DTC from the XJ8 ECU once paired? Has the CAN complexity been worked around to allow this, or does the CAN only pertain to the Jag add-on?
 
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:54 AM
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The AE works fine with 2006 XJ8. I had some trouble with AE properly identifying a bad Occupant Position Sensor. The tool reported and identified the wrong sensor. There are 4 sensors and I think the SW went though reverse order of the reported sensor status. I had a few email exchanges with Jay the owner of AE and offered to test a new code load, but he declined. The AutoLogic worked perfectly and identified the correct sensor. ... and it should, for the price. I thought the same about AE, but the stuff I was using it for was SRS related and most folks don't go there. I replaced the bad OPS sensor and the SRS system reset itself! The AE did reset a used SRS module that did not have a hard crash code set and it accurately identified seat belt pretensioners that were deployed.

I was told by AE techline that the Jag Specific SW CD can be shared amongst friends. If each person purchases their own AE ST-06 dongle, the Jag specific module ( CD ROM ) can be shared.
Maybe someone could double check with AE tech support to substantiate that claim.

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I was ready to pull the trigger on an AE, but after reading this thread, I've noticed some folks claim it doesn't integrate well with the XJ8. Is this still the case?
 
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:12 PM
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I received an email from Bill at AutoEnginuity, spoke with Bill on the phone and then spoke with another tech. Bill was very informative as was the other tech. I cannot remember the other tech's name, but he literally walked me through every option they offer and answered all of my questions.

I read through this entire thread and have seen some claims pertaining to to the AE without any explanation. I asked specific questions to the techs today to further understand... To clarify:

All new AE's come with the ST06 interface. Proline ST06 is now the standard interface. In other words, even if you buy the standard scan tool setup, it still utilizes the ST06 interface, just like the Proline series.

AE now utilizes a dongle for security. They were hacked in China and implemented the dongle to mitigate further hacks.

Jaguar X308's utilize pin #9 as a 12V power source. AE had to make a decision whether to limit their interface's capability and allow the 12V through pin #9 or to provide support for Mercedes. Thus, they chose the latter. Unfortunately, this makes the interface useless for X308's unless the Jaguar enhancement module is used.

The ST06 interface combined with the Jaguar enhancement module will permit monitoring and control of the X308's sensors, computers, etc.

The ST05 interface does not work well with X308's and will have issues. Many people reporting issues with their AE communicating with their X308 have the ST05 interface.

Many people reporting issues with their AE communicating with their X308 and have the ST06, may not have the Jaguar enhancement module and/or are not following the instructions.

You can purchase a bundle Ford package (which includes the ST06 interface, Ford enhancement module and standard scan tool software) and the Jaguar enhancement module for nearly the same price as the regular scan tool plus the Jaguar enhancement module.

If you ever experience an issue with synching your AE program and interface to your car, you can call the AE techs and they will assist you. They will walk you through diagnosis issues, etc. All you have to do is call them.
 
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Two cheapos tested from EBay UK
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...84.m1423.l2649
Car Diagnostic Scanner CAN-BUS Fault Code Reader OBD2 OBDII EOBD EOBDII U480 UK (Object no 260886520911) a hand held scanner - works fine but only reads and clears codes, no live data despite advertising to the contrary and
Bluetooth Auto Car V1.4 ELM327 OBDII OBD2 Diagnostic interface Scanner tool Code
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bluetooth-...item3a6ab8b61c
from the same supplier which doesn't work at all.
 

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can you edit your post steve to link that failed BT ELM-copy, I myself have an ELM duplicate from china that does work...but only on my jag, not on a ford (go figure)
 
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FWIW, I found one of AE's vendors sells all of their products for less than AE sells them direct. I saved an additional $60 on top of the aforementioned bundle pack savings. Riffraff Diesel Performance is where you want to buy your AE setup. You'll still receive the AE directly from AE, just for less when purchasing through the aforementioned vendor. They sell the standard setup as well, but don't list it on their website because the Ford guys were getting confused when trying to order the bundle packs. If you want the standard AE scan tool, send Clay (owner) an email.
 


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