safe to drive with "tube" in tire?
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last week my fiance drove over a curb with my G37 and punctured 2 tires. Each tire has a small rip along the lip of the tire (where the tire meets the rim)
i took it to a tireshop today and they said they cant repair it, but if they put a tube in it, it will be good as new and driveable.
Now considering this is only my winter set and I was planning on selling the wheels in 2 months, i decided to go with it but now im having some worries. is it safe to drive around like that?
will the rip get bigger?
will the tube be enough?
i took it to a tireshop today and they said they cant repair it, but if they put a tube in it, it will be good as new and driveable.
Now considering this is only my winter set and I was planning on selling the wheels in 2 months, i decided to go with it but now im having some worries. is it safe to drive around like that?
will the rip get bigger?
will the tube be enough?
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Not that mine is the final word but I'd be a bit worried as well. I just wouldn't be comfortable with any tire that is ripped, torn, gouged, or injured in any way.
Maybe if you're just using the car for local putt-putting about it might not be much of a risk. But highway speed driving would be out of the question.....in my opinion.
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Maybe if you're just using the car for local putt-putting about it might not be much of a risk. But highway speed driving would be out of the question.....in my opinion.
Cheers
DD
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I'd also be seriously concerned at this fix. It is definitely NOT 'good as new'.
Holes through the tread are usually safely repairable by plugging but sidewall damage is effectively the end as the structural integrity of the tyre is compromised.
Damage to the bead is even worse and could potentially result in the tyre coming off the rim even at low speed.
Graham
I'd also be seriously concerned at this fix. It is definitely NOT 'good as new'.
Holes through the tread are usually safely repairable by plugging but sidewall damage is effectively the end as the structural integrity of the tyre is compromised.
Damage to the bead is even worse and could potentially result in the tyre coming off the rim even at low speed.
Graham
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+++++++ TOO MANY.
That tube will be "rubbing" on the inner casing of the tyre, and since the inner casing of "tubeless tyres" is NOT as smooth as the older "tubed tyres" there will be HUGE friction, and that tube will "blow out".
Add to that your insurance will LUV to talk to you IF something happened and a claim came across a desk.
I would cease driving, NOW, and fit new tyres, suck it up, SAFETY first.
That tube will be "rubbing" on the inner casing of the tyre, and since the inner casing of "tubeless tyres" is NOT as smooth as the older "tubed tyres" there will be HUGE friction, and that tube will "blow out".
Add to that your insurance will LUV to talk to you IF something happened and a claim came across a desk.
I would cease driving, NOW, and fit new tyres, suck it up, SAFETY first.
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The biggest problem with using inner tubes is a sudden loss of tire pressure if punctured. If the nail goes into the tubeless time, the loss of tire pressure is gradual. On the inner tube its practically instant. This can result in a sudden loss of control. It will be very unpleasant even if its just a blow out without further consequences.
Forget about saving few bucks now and thing about saving large bucks later. Do yourself and your better half a favor and get new tires, like yesterday.
BTW, for future reference - if the tire has a sidewall puncture ANYWHERE, it cannot be fixed. Even if the damage is on the shoulder of the tread.
Forget about saving few bucks now and thing about saving large bucks later. Do yourself and your better half a favor and get new tires, like yesterday.
BTW, for future reference - if the tire has a sidewall puncture ANYWHERE, it cannot be fixed. Even if the damage is on the shoulder of the tread.
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We all agree. You need to change them as they are in a dangerous condition. I can't understand how any tyre shop could have given you this repair advice. Sidewall damage is terminal.
One of the other things is the damage that you can't see, even a low speed curbing can cause excessive stress to the side wall causing internal ruptures that over time can allow the tyre to let fly, usually at high speed.
It's not fun.
One of the other things is the damage that you can't see, even a low speed curbing can cause excessive stress to the side wall causing internal ruptures that over time can allow the tyre to let fly, usually at high speed.
It's not fun.
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Let's be clear here. While we all agree it's a bad idea, and there's a real possibility of failure, and we'd be uncomfortable with such a repair, there's no absolute prediction that the repair WILL fail.
There's also a possibility it WON'T fail.
The key word here is "possibilty"..." At what point possibilities turn into probabilities, and what the results when they do? Ahhhhh....so many rubs.
I'll wager the shop has done this sort of thing before and nothing horrible has happened (that they know of) so they shrug off the potential risk. Not wise.
They may have thought they were doing you a a favor.....fixing your tire rather than selling a new one. That makes them heroic in the eyes of some consumers :-)
And, quite often we get angry when a repair shop says something is "unsafe". The automatic assumption is the shop is using scare tactics to bolster sales. Or....the repair shop is simply being cowardly: "They're just afraid of getting sued so they insist on selling me a new tire rather than fixing the old one. That's what's wrong with our world today. Damn lawyers!".
Anyhow, sidewall damage DOES condemn a tire by any professional standards, and for good reason. What the shop SHOULD have done is explain this to you so you could make a more informed decision. Whether they were being nice guys or idiots for what they did is for you to decide.
I am 100% certain, though, that their lawyer would tell them they are flat-out idiots.
Bottom line, even after all this blathering? It was a BAD idea. I'm right back where we started ! Talked myself right into a circle. Not the first time that's happened :-)
Just took the last sip of coffee from my cup.....so my "ramble" switch is now turned off.
Have a nice morning everyone !
Cheers
DD
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