3.4 Oil filter setup
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3.4 Oil filter setup
I apologize for the posts but I'm new to the XK engine and really need some guidance at times. I'm fitting an early 3.4 engine into my 340 and had posted earlier about which setup to use. It seems I need to use the later downward facing one. I've attached photos of each. On the early on there are 4 mounting locations. On the later 5. Will this be a problem if I swap the housings?
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As you can see there were different Tecalemit filter housings. Jaguar also added an extra bolt to prevent leaks. Does your car have a tin sump or an Aluminium one? Carburettor drains are finally held together by a bracket that attaches under one of the bolts.
This is the preferred housing. Your top pic looks correct. 5 bolt housing does not leak. Hope your block can accommodate 5 bolts.
New spring & correct drains bracket were fitted after this pic. Some canisters were painted light hammertone silver & some heavy hammertone green. That round item on top of the assembly is your oil pressure sensor.
This is the preferred housing. Your top pic looks correct. 5 bolt housing does not leak. Hope your block can accommodate 5 bolts.
New spring & correct drains bracket were fitted after this pic. Some canisters were painted light hammertone silver & some heavy hammertone green. That round item on top of the assembly is your oil pressure sensor.
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Glyn, can you expand a bit on the various gaskets required for different engines and filters. I ask because I recall being very confused with which of the plethora of gaskets included were appropriate. I apparently got it right in the end but if there's an easy way to tell it could be helpful to others.
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Glyn, can you expand a bit on the various gaskets required for different engines and filters. I ask because I recall being very confused with which of the plethora of gaskets included were appropriate. I apparently got it right in the end but if there's an easy way to tell it could be helpful to others.
Major gaskets & seals.
1) Housing to block (22)
2) Top rubber sealing ring canister to housing (13)
3) Bolt to canister base rubber sealing ring. (8)
4) Seals like 21 and oil pressure sender unit (not shown), pressure balance valve (16) & pressure relief valve (17) are all obvious. Relief valve assembly uses 21.
Never forget short pipe (24) to drain back to sump if pressure release valve is triggered by very cold oil at start up or a clogged filter. Washable filters were replaced by cartridge filters in the canister a very long time ago.
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I think that we should be helping OXENDINE get his car together and not use this forum to throw jibes at one another.
With my 58+ years of Jaguar ownership (I started young) and numbers of cars I am only too happy to assist "newbies" on the mysteries that Sir William Lyons incorporated in his brand.
I recently spent an afternoon taking a local newcomer Jag owner through his recently acquired 1966 S type which was last on the road in 1985. I was showing him the areas which need immediate attention.in carbies, brakes etc. and advising where he could access spares.
He was not new to restorations as he has rebuilt early Fords and MG Bs but this is his first Jag. He was extremely grateful for the assistance as it set priorities for "need to do " versus "nice to do".
So lets all be civilised and assist the "newbies"
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With my 58+ years of Jaguar ownership (I started young) and numbers of cars I am only too happy to assist "newbies" on the mysteries that Sir William Lyons incorporated in his brand.
I recently spent an afternoon taking a local newcomer Jag owner through his recently acquired 1966 S type which was last on the road in 1985. I was showing him the areas which need immediate attention.in carbies, brakes etc. and advising where he could access spares.
He was not new to restorations as he has rebuilt early Fords and MG Bs but this is his first Jag. He was extremely grateful for the assistance as it set priorities for "need to do " versus "nice to do".
So lets all be civilised and assist the "newbies"
Cheers
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I think you have missed the humour bit Bill. None of the above remarks were malicious or intended to be malicious but were having a laugh at each other. The smiley face emojis and use of the "lol" are the give away. Sorry if you got the wrong idea. I don't think you can doubt the sincerity of the posts that both Jeff and myself have posted in the past which I think have always been helpful and as accurate as possible.
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Ok, I am ancient and really don't understand/respond to emojis and acronyms such as "lol". In addition my mobile phone is a simple flip device and I am not into social chit chat. My grandkids give me a bit of stick over these things
My apologies to everyone for the misinterpretation but I will stand by "assistance to newbies" as being a fundamental part of this forum.
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My apologies to everyone for the misinterpretation but I will stand by "assistance to newbies" as being a fundamental part of this forum.
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This pipe number 24 is also almost impossible to remove from its position without dismantling the assembly due to its short length but the even shorter gap between the pressure relief valve pipe and the sump pipe.
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Don't tell me. I've just managed to get an Imperial ID one in without stripping. The language used would blister paint. Got a nice new still soft one from Barratts. My previous new one had a very minor leak & I wondered if our local metric piping was the cause.
So far no leak but we shall see. Also used Cheney type clamps this time. The ones I had previously were cut right through on the threads.
So far no leak but we shall see. Also used Cheney type clamps this time. The ones I had previously were cut right through on the threads.
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Cheney clamps are the brand of clamp that Jaguar used OE from the factory. If you want a 100 points at the Pebble Beach concours you will have to have Cheney clamps on all hoses of your Jaguar. The "thread" is not cut right through the metal. Made in the UK
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Also called a Jubilee clip too. Not just Pebble Beach, you need the correct hose clamps at a JCNA show in Champion class.
To answer the earlier question, match the gasket (#22 in the diagram Glyn posted in post #8 ) to the filter housing. There are lots of variants over the years, I have 13 different gaskets in my collection.
To answer the earlier question, match the gasket (#22 in the diagram Glyn posted in post #8 ) to the filter housing. There are lots of variants over the years, I have 13 different gaskets in my collection.
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They are also known as a Jubilee clip but Jaguar only used Cheney Brand clips.
Jagboi I'm worried that the OP's early Block wont accommodate the 5 bolt housing. He might have to live with his 4 bolt upward facing unit.
Hylomar or Yamabond should prevent leaks. Especially Yamabond that was designed to seal machined facings with no gaskets & slight movement possible. Wonderful stuff. No racing team is ever without it. Even F1
Jagboi I'm worried that the OP's early Block wont accommodate the 5 bolt housing. He might have to live with his 4 bolt upward facing unit.
Hylomar or Yamabond should prevent leaks. Especially Yamabond that was designed to seal machined facings with no gaskets & slight movement possible. Wonderful stuff. No racing team is ever without it. Even F1
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