Rob ~ it is a total waste of time. People want technical validation for what they have done wrong rather than what is technically correct. I shall simply spend more time at MBWorld where I am appreciated. The sycophants are swarming. Apart from Primaz & Homer the others are not frequent contributors to this forum.

 

Interesting.
What is the difference between the comment you have just made and the examples you quote as having been made by Glyn. Are you going to put me on probation for saying I don't like Modified classic Jaguars. That seems to have offended some people a couple of times. Glyn has said nothing I disagree with but he has come close to the mark as have others on this forum including yourself when answering. Others on the forum have been very forceful in their comments on certain subjects.
American cars are like Barges and have been since time began. Remember when the Mk2 Jaguar, Ford Cortina and Mini cooper S used to race against the Ford Galaxy in the 1960s. Mk2 Cortina and Mini used to beat it hands down in the corners only for it to speed by down the straight in a straight line.
If you do not like what someone says walk on by as they say. If you want an argument then read on, get hot under the collar, make your own inappropriate comment but don't worry because the other person can also just walk on by. Lets not get too PC here, these are just words. We are not sat outside your house waiting for you to leave for work with a baseball bat.

 

Dare I say it?
A storm in a teacup!

 

You most certainly may say it ~ I lived in your wonderful country (Wollstonecraft Bay) ~ Sydney for a long time when we were expanding our Asian operations and our Technical Centre for the Region was in Sydney.

 

To place full context to my statement that others refuse to.

Quote:
"Different countries have different preferences. Americans have always liked over compliant, dangerous barges that go like hell in a straight line but are terrified of corners & cause terror in corners.

Different strokes for different folks. South Africa is like Europe. Hard hugging seats, firm suspensions and outstanding handling in the twisties & tyre & braking department."
Unquote.

 

Glyn,

I had hoped to avoid having to make yet another off-topic post in this thread out of respect to the OP, who must by now be bewildered by the sheer volume of your self-aggrandizing off-topic nonsense.

Your use of two sweeping generalizations based on stereotypes, becuase you didn't think one was sufficient to make your point, is not an effective defense of your claims that you respect cultural diversity. It just makes you twice as culturaly insensitive and twice as wrong:

I have now heard privately from other members who feel that you have been and continue to be a destructive presence at the Jaguar Forums. I suggest you spend the next month or year at your other forum or I will make that decision for you.

Don

 

Don you are making a big mistake if you carry out your threat. There are some who might agree with your actions but there are many more who disagree and that is the basis of this argument. What one person is offended by is not what all are offended by. I also note the the majority of people liking your posts have never submitted as far as I can tell a post on this section of the forum. Who are these people contacting you and making complaints against Glyn. You lose Glyn from this forum and you lose so much knowledge that so many people require and for what. Because they were offended by something he said. I am not American but I thought you had the first amendment that allowed free speech. The only things that are no allowed are obscenity, child pornography, defamatory speech, false advertising, true threats, and fighting words. I don't think Glyn has crossed any of these lines. Your first amendment not mine.
Please explain why you are taking this action.
Even the rules of this forum have not been broken by Glyn. Taken direct from the New Members page rules.

• Foul, abusive, or racist language is not tolerated, also the use of the word Steal ership is not acceptable and may well result in an infraction.

• Opinions of members: We are all entitled to our opinions, but please do not use this forum as a base to abuse other members or companies either in person or about their product or services. Anything considered unsuitable, or anything that could place this site and its owner (INTERNET BRANDS) in an inappropriate situation will be moderated or removed.

 

I laughed out-loud at this...
How is this offensive ?

"Americans have always liked over compliant, dangerous barges that go like hell in a straight line but are terrified of corners & cause terror in corners"...
Listen to the announcer !

It's the truth...

 

I can laugh at this too and am certainly not offended. But of course, while many cars that could fit Glyn's description were manufactured in the U.S. (then modified by owners) decades ago, it is a gross overstatement to suggest that Americans, in general, have always liked vehicles that are dangerous and cannot corner. Today, six of the ten best-selling auto brands in the U.S. are based in Japan or South Korea, which is probably also true in many other nations. My point is that Glyn cannot make a statement based on a decades-old stereotype, or post personal insults that he later edits, then expect to be taken seriously when he tells others they need cultural diversity training. He simply has no credibility on the subject.

For the record, members who have contacted me privately have told me that they have stopped posting, or avoided posting in this forum because of past bullying by Glyn and certain other members. Also for the record, in this thread Glyn posted condescending, rude and insulting remarks that he later edited when challenged by others. Glyn has previously received a temporary ban for unacceptable behavior and I and the other moderators will continue to monitor his posts.

I am closing this thread since the OP is obviously not going to receive any more constructive help, which he should have been able to expect from this group. One of the recurring complaints about Glyn is that he tends to take over threads and turn them into discussions about himself. He certainly achieved that objective here.

Something I have always admired about the Jaguar online community is the generosity of veterans who kindly and patiently share their knowledge with others who are just beginning their Jaguar ownership journey. I hope you will all keep in mind that at some point, you were a newbie too.

Don