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if you mean the heat shields, they are above the two rear mufflers, but my car's floor does not have those cutouts or recesses. I installed the Bell system by myself, with the car high on blocks and me under it in a rolling cart. Ordered the system from SNG Barratt in 2005. I did not use the included "U" clamps because those "crimp" the pipes and mufflers together making it impossible to separate exhaust parts later. I ordered stainless Band Clamps.
I did the same exhaust work in my '84 XJ-6 and the S type system is identical to the XJ-6.
if you mean the heat shields, they are above the two rear mufflers, but my car's floor does not have those cutouts or recesses. I installed the Bell system by myself, with the car high on blocks and me under it in a rolling cart. Ordered the system from SNG Barratt in 2005. I did not use the included "U" clamps because those "crimp" the pipes and mufflers together making it impossible to separate exhaust parts later. I ordered stainless Band Clamps.
I did the same exhaust work in my '84 XJ-6 and the S type system is identical to the XJ-6.
Your car is either a freak or it does have the cut outs. Suggest you go & look again. We have very early cars like yours here that Jag imported before local production started & they all have them. It's all part of the design. My car was built January 1966 & No 4 off the locaL CDA line. All S Types to SA prior to that were imported. I call mine a '65 because some fiddle was pulled with the Registration work that I have been unable to resolve. So I call it a '65. But it is physically a 1966 build.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 08-27-2022 at 01:17 PM.
Possibly the XJ doesn't have them? There's a story that, in the original XJ body, 'they' forgot to allow space for the exhaust system, which caused complications with the eventual installation.
Quite possibly Peter. Jose's car does have some odd features. It's a very early build. e.g. it has the sunroof headlining without hole & no sunroof and the very early finger pull on the glove box lid as does Alan Wiedie's except that Alans car has the correct foam backed Union Cloth roof lining glued to the dome with the correct surrounding roll. Jag do odd things at model change time to use up all the bits in stock. Most manufacturers would send items that are left over to the Parts department for later sale as spare parts.
my S type was built and exported to California in 1964. It was sold as a 1965 model. It does not have the cutouts or recesses shown in another photograph here but it does have concave heat shields rivetted to the underside above the mufflers.
It wouldn't surprise me if Pressed Steel interpreted take the Mk2 seat pan and make the right side the same as the left as make the left the same as the right. Jaguar were not always very good at setting specifications for Pressed Steel. Moreover, my impression is that Pressed Steel took advantage of their near monopoly position and made little effort to get their products right.
my S type was built and exported to California in 1964. It was sold as a 1965 model. It does not have the cutouts or recesses shown in another photograph here but it does have concave heat shields rivetted to the underside above the mufflers.
Show us a good photograph of the underside of your car. Our club would love to add it to our freak wall. Try and make it a crisp pic. I don't know what you do to pics but they always have a murky haze. You even took a crisp pic of my yellow accessory plug and posted it to the Register. It was hazy again from a crisp shot. Use higher resolution. Screen resolution on the average monitor is only 96dpi for a nice crisp picture.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 08-28-2022 at 01:10 PM.
my S type was built and exported to California in 1964. It was sold as a 1965 model. It does not have the cutouts or recesses shown in another photograph here but it does have concave heat shields rivetted to the underside above the mufflers.
Jose you might find if you look closely that the recesses are behind the heat shields and hidden from view. They are on my car. When the heat shields are riveted in place they sit over the top of the recesses and then the exhaust boxes cover the whole area. In the photo by BobS you can clearly see his recesses but only because it appears he does not have the heat shields in place. Without the heat shields the exhaust boxes in BobS 's photos are pushed up into the recesses which is not how they should lie.
ok Cass, that is a different situation then. I won't be removing the heat shield rivets to find out !! And also that is exactly why I made my first comment, the mufflers are not pushed up like in that picture, they are approx. 3/4" inches under the shields, on the same "plane" as the front pipes. The subsequent over-the-axle pipes align perfectly with the mufflers. I think the Hangers that came with the system took care of the distancing.
For the tin work this is what you see Peter. This guys door panels & parcel shelf are not 100% accurate ~ but that's upholstery (door panel top roll & heat seal below the wood missing ~ a common error & there should be a row of piping that sits against the upper back seat on the parcel shelf). The original anti drumming panels are still under the paint where the lower seat squab fits stuck to the metal.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 08-28-2022 at 04:10 PM.
What do you see from the other side; that is if you take the rear seat cushion out?
The cut outs or pressings on the bottom of the car as can be seen in the first photo below are pressed into the floor and form the front raised section of the rear seat as can be seen in the second photo. There is no way Jose's car has not got this section unless he has a completely different design of the floor and rear seats in his S Type. Another view taken of the underside of the car when it was at the blasters clearly showing the cut outs or pressed area for the bottom of the rear seats. Internal photo showing where the pressing on the bottom forms the seat front which is the area covered by the black material.
Though not identical, the bulges are similar to the single one in the Mk2. I'd upload a photo of mine, but you can't see much at the moment due to the temporary internal bracing.
if the seat bottom is removed from my car, there are two compartments or "hollows" where the seat bottom's frame fits into. Between them is the propeller shaft tunnel, identical to my XJ-6.
Under those two "hollows" are the two mufflers sort of "floating" by hangers.
08-27-2022, 11:58 AM
