I wonder - do the full rear wheel spats from the 2.4 Mk 1 fit straight onto a 3.4 mk 1?

Thanks in advance....

 

Markone the very best way of knowing is to check the part numbers. I will look tomorrow.

 

I wouln't think the body changed because of the different engine.

 

Don't forget that the track was widened at the rear which may explain why the Mark 2 spats were cut-away.

 

I don't know but what I do know is that Mk1 & Mk2 rear fenders are not the same. They were changed to accommodate the wider rear axle as Fraser says. Internally the MK2 was known by Jaguar staff as "the wide body car".

Quote by Jaguar Scribes Taylor & Andrew Whyte "The rear wing panels and rear valance changed slightly to accommodate the wider rear axle, but they looked much the same as before. The rear wheel spats, too, retained their basic shape, although a subtle alteration at their trailing edges gave them a rather happier appearance. Also subtly different was a wider rear bumper, necessitated by the wider rear axle"

 

On a MK1 the full depth spats are completely interchangeable with the later cutaway spats . The original MK1 2.4 featured the full depth spats however after the introduction of the 3.4 engine the cutaway spat was introduced to assist in cooling the rear brakes. I am not sure about the exact date this occurred however my current MK 1 2.4 with full spats was built in roughly Sept 1957. Three of my other MK1s were 3.4 with cutaways however a 1958 MK 1 2.4 I previously owned also had full spats.
The MK1 spat is completely interchangeable with a MK2 spat. There is about 1/8 inch difference in depth.

As Glyn says there is a major difference in the rear track between the MK1 and MK2. This really shows up as the rear bumper bars are not interchangeable. The front bumpers are basically the same but are drilled differently for over riders and mounts.
By the way the engine bonnet and boot lid are interchangeable between MK1 and MK2.
Bill Mac
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Thank you gents, I rather agree with Jose that the bodies didn't change and therefore the spats would be inter changable. Being a 3.4 it came with the cut away spats and would like both as I think the styling is so 1950's with the full covers. Thanks to Coventry Foundation re part numbers, I checked in my spare parts book but it only covers the 3.4 so it needs a 2.4 parts book to find the part number.

I came across a little known VW XL1

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2015-volkswagen-xl1

(I think) it was a productionised prototype possibly 250 no worldwide the car being so slippery they were getting 100km from 1 litre! When you see pictures of that car there is a certain styling that reminded me of the Mk 1 2.4.

The next challenge is to find a set to purchase....

 

I like the full spats too. in the Jag or the VW.

In the US they are called skirts.

I know where there might still be a pair but the seller doesn't know if they came off a XK-120 or MK-1, and they appeared to be in bad condition when I saw the ad.

Also there is a US business that fabricates skirts for any car in fiberglass.

 

Thanks for the clarification. No surprise. I only knew Mk1 to Mk2 differences.


3.4








2.4

 

The bodies did change, but the arch profile should be the same. There's a story (that I think I've mentioned before) of how Jaguar set the specification of the modification to the rear wing by splitting the inner wheel arch on a Mk1 body and jamming a wooden wedge into the gap to push the wing out. They then sent the whole body to The Pressed Steel Company with the message that that was how they wanted the rear wing of the Mk2. Apparently, the response was a little frosty.

I'm pretty sure I've seen the story is in one of Jaguar books.

 

I don't think I've ever seen a "Pie Crust" hub cap on any Jag before ?

 

Are you talking about the Ace Turbo wheel trims that were available as an option on the compacts for most of their production? I don't like them.

 

Yes, must be these:
Wheel trim, Ace Turbo-Trim (mgaguru.com)

They look a bit odd.

 

Yes I have one in my donor junk pile ~ awful things IMHO.

 

I love reading little tidbits like this!

 

Hi All. The relevant part numbers are as follows: MK1 Full Spats - BD10402 (LH) & BD10401 (RH). MK1 Cut-Away Spats - BD12235 (LH) & BD12236 (RH). The MK2 Spats are BD17012 (LH) & BD17011 (RH). As Bill quite rightly states, the MK1 & MK2 cut-away spats do differ slightly, although are interchangeable. On that basis I suppose one could fit full spats to a MK2 (should you do desire - lol !)

 

For those that might be interested in the difference between a standard wire wheel & a "Competition" wire wheel in the options listing above. It's all in the spoke lacing spread for greater stability. Note the paired spoke sets close to the lip of the the rim. 5.5" X 15" and above.

 

Hi Glynn

I've fitted two of the wider 'competition' wire wheels to the rear axle of my Etype, they are available from MWS in Slough and are so much easier to clean than the standard wires (which I retained on the fronts. A little off topic but what a shame that Dunlop ceased production of the original RS5 Cross plies they gave a confident feel to the car in the dry that the radials just don't have.

Those ACE covers were sometimes fitted to the Mk 2's as I recall in the 60's - totally agree they were horrible, made the car look cheap and the early multi holed wheel are very attractive...

 

Yes ~ my wheels came from MWS. I was very tempted to fit wider competition wires to my S Type but originality won over.

Yes the Ace Turbo trim was fitted to many Mk2's ~ Yugh!

Regarding tyres. It's like Aston Martins of the late 50's & up to DB6 MkII in the 60's. The cars only feel right on the original Avon's.

 

used 16" BMW steel wheels on my MK1, wanted to keep the chrome hub caps. Coombs spat will be fitted, they clear the wheels just fine ( now at the paint shop ) needed to used spacers at the back only.