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It's certainly an easy job. Is it now legal to do that?
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I don't know for sure. But the lighting laws change dramatically back in 1985 to allow for what I call aero headlights. Otherwise we would still have 2 sizes of round headlights. Or 2 sizes of square headlights.

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The US prices do seem much lower for cleaner looking cars. Not so many car auctions over here to see what prices the cars actually achieve. Dealers can ask what they want but I spoke to one recently and he had trouble shifting Mk 2’s. I think I need to investigate some auctions to get a better idea of the value.
 

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The problem with the 420 is that it's not an XJ6. You might say it's an S type trying to be an XJ6, but it still isn't one. Very few would disagree with the fact that the XJ6 is an all time great and in about every way a far better car than a 420.
 
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Originally Posted by Rishi
The US prices do seem much lower for cleaner looking cars. Not so many car auctions over here to see what prices the cars actually achieve. Dealers can ask what they want but I spoke to one recently and he had trouble shifting Mk 2’s. I think I need to investigate some auctions to get a better idea of the value.
People selling classic Jaguars put ridicules prices on some cars which are unachievable. We have all heard the saying "I know what I have got!". Problem is you see the price that it is up for sale at but never see the actual sale price after the negotiations. A friend of mine died recently and his wife put his S Type up for sale. She asked me what I thought it was worth and I said £15 to £17k. She thought it was worth £25 with no knowledge of the market prices basing this on how much she knew her husband had spent on the car. She eventually sold it for £20k to a friend in her village who obviously also had no knowledge of the value of the car but liked it and had the money lying around.
 
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The problem with the 420 is that it's not an XJ6. You might say it's an S type trying to be an XJ6, but it still isn't one. Very few would disagree with the fact that the XJ6 is an all time great and in about every way a far better car than a 420.
The XJ6 is an excellent motor car ~ no question. But when is it going to gain some value. You can't give one away in SA. No one wants one of any generation. They just lie around deteriorating by the day. One might say they don't know what they are missing. But no one wants one here. They are considered outdated troublesome crap.
 

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The XJ6 is an excellent motor car ~ no question. But when is it going to gain some value. You can't give one away in SA. No one wants one of any generation. They just lie around deteriorating by the day. One might say they don't know what they are missing. But no one wants one here. They are considered outdated troublesome crap.
Series 1,2 and 3 are starting to fetch big money over here. A good one gets advertised for €20K+.
 
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Maybe I must persuade my buddy who lives in Dallas (Rockwall) and owns a half share in a Polish Restoration shop & a Classic dealership in the Netherlands to ship a whole lot of SA cars to his business there where he has a darn good manager & SA financial man. I helped him sell his SA additives, base oil & BASF agency for 1.3 billion Rand. His Travertine clad new house that overlooks a lake and the clever architect hid a 43 car fully fledged & equipped garage into so it looks part of it. I will be visiting him & Polly later this year. He built a fully equipped flat & spa onto the house for me. He is like a mini Jay Leno with his car collection.

We have lots of rust free XJ6's just lying around. No one will touch them.
 

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Probably the Loosdrechtse Plassen. I know someone
there with a villa on the water and an underground garage for a small car collection. Which dealer
is it?
 
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We bought our DD6 in 1993 for £6k. The value remained constant until the last two or three years. Now, anything that looks decent is well over £10k, many are over £20k, and one or two over £30k. The prices of series XJ cars seem to be rising at least in the UK. I doubt that it's enough to make restoration of a rotten example economic though their bodies are easier to work on than Mk2s.
 
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Just spotted a ‘74 DD6 here for €39.9K!

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1562976
 
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We definitely need to move the worthless stuff from SA to Europe. He concentrates mainly on Mercedes & Porsche & some exotic BMW's. I'll get the name of the company from him. Sounds like a good place to screw people.

A DD6 his hardly a run of the mill XJ6.
 

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Rishi, I thought you were looking for an S-Type, why the Daimler ?
It's a nice car, but it looks like you're having car fever and your cash is burning a hole in your pocket.

Give it a year or even two and keep checking until the right car comes along.
 
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I wonder what they would pay for my concours S Type. I've already told the family to maximise value & ship it to Coys as a rust free SA car for auction once I pass on.
 

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Response:My registered Dutch company is called BadenBay, but that is not operating company its merely the holding company, for property and classic car investments. In the Netherlands we cooperate with Oldenzaal classic when we acquire or sell classic cars.
 
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The Restoration company in Poland.
My operational classic car business is in Poland called Doctorclassic.eu
 
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Originally Posted by Rishi
The US prices do seem much lower for cleaner looking cars. Not so many car auctions over here to see what prices the cars actually achieve. Dealers can ask what they want but I spoke to one recently and he had trouble shifting Mk 2’s. I think I need to investigate some auctions to get a better idea of the value.
Hi Rishi,

Here is an auction on your side of the pond for a 3.4 S-type.

https://carsonline.bonhams.com/en/li...30ea?open=true

I find that the so called expert who give the estimated value don't have a clue of the actual value. I often wonder if they even look at the pictures of the car.
 
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
Rishi, I thought you were looking for an S-Type, why the Daimler ?
It's a nice car, but it looks like you're having car fever and your cash is burning a hole in your pocket.

Give it a year or even two and keep checking until the right car comes along.
I am looking for an S but when I saw the 420 I thought it was worth a look. I am trying to gather as much realistic information about condition as I can. I have also looked a few Mk 2’s just to get an idea of the sort of condition I can expect. The price of restored cars is crazy so I have to look for a car that has survived well. It’s also fun just looking around, I guess it’s the equivalent of window shopping!
 
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It’s also fun just looking around, I guess it’s the equivalent of window shopping!
Absolutely. I looked long and hard for my car. Realistically at least 11 months of looking to find a rust free car. I had given up on my Aston DB6 search. Our good cars had left the country & dealers were importing corroded rubbish from the UK.

Used to worry dealers. Disappear with the car for 2 hours. Drive a short test section of road that gave the thing a good shaking to evaluate suspension. Put it on a friends hoist and then park it on my lawn and have a good look at it inside & out.
 

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