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Old 05-30-2019, 08:12 AM
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Hello,
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I'm from Czech Republic.
I bought my dream jaguar MK2 3.4 (1964) right hand drive.
The car will be at home next week on Wednesday.
I'll have to buy some parts that are damaged or missing.
I also want to buy wire wheels. At the moment I got an offer wheels from XJ6. Will they be applicable to MK2 (If I use this adaptors) ?
Please, is it possible to find somewhere history of my vehicle by body number?
My car was imported from the USA.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:25 AM
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Hello, Peter and welcome to the forum. Congratulations on your purchase. It looks like there is plenty to keep you busy, there, but it is good the car moves and drives.

You can obtain a heritage certificate from the Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust. This will give you the information they have on the car when it was built, but nothing after that date. To order a certificate, you will need at least the VIN number from the VIN plate on the bulkhead. The certificate you get looks like this:



The hubs and spinners in the link you posted will allow you to fit original size wire wheels, eg these XW455 ones from MWS. XJ6 wheels are wider and may not fit under your rear spats. The XJ6 was never fitted with wire wheels (apart from one pre-production car).

Hope this helps.
 
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:42 PM
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Your tyres should be 185 width, but the XJ6 1968-86 had 205, both 15 inch diameter, later cars even wider tyres. I would stick to wheels that are right for the car, as there is not a lot of room to fit wider wheels, and some owners have even had the right tyres contacting the front wheel arches after new wings have been fitted as the internal lip return has not been done.

Anyways, before you start on wheels, money is better spent on the rest of the car, which looks pretty clean, but even so, clearly needs a lot of work. I rebuilt a Mark 2 in the 80s from a bare shell.
 
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:04 PM
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Welcome Peter,
Looks like a very solid car. Enjoy your build!
 
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Old 06-03-2019, 04:43 AM
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Hello,
thank you all for your advice.
The car will be home the day after tomorrow.
I'll make more photos of the defects and place them on the forum.
Investing in buying for wire wheels seems unnecessary.
The car will need money for other repairs.

Thank You.

Peter
 
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Yes Yes Yes
the car is at home.


So I just shot the details that I have to fix first.
I found a rusty exhaust.


At the bottom of the car is rust and holes.


I miss one wheel cover.



Wood trim either has to be repaired or found new.



Do you know any affordable and reliable MK2 shops?

Thank You for all :-)
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:04 AM
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Let the fun begin! You will soon develop "shipwrights disease". When you look at one thing, your attention is distracted left and right. Then you say to yourself "what about this over here". Enjoy!
 
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Hello,
Yes, I understand. I know what you're talking about.
My first classic car is the Volga GAZ 21 with a deer on the hood. Year 1962.

The white car (2-series) is mine. The blue is (3-series) 1963 is my friend.
Now I can choose either a deer or a jaguar :-)
Do you have a tip to buy an exhaust for MK2?
Thank you
 
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Hi Koldavideo, my best tip regarding buying an exhaust, or hubs caps is to leave it for quite a while. You may need to strip the car pretty well to a bare shell and get all the metalwork sorted before you worry about the details. The cills are rotted away, at least on one side from the pictures, and with the rust that bad there, I would suspect quite a bit more in other areas.

I bought some bits for my latest MK2 before it arrived, let's just say they are still in the box and have not yet been fitted, you have a whole lot of work to do before you will be really needing the exhaust.

If the bodywork is not sound, the car will fall apart around you unless you cut out a deal with the rust. Are you going to get someone to do the restoration for you or are you able to do the work yourself (fabrication and welding) ? You asked if anyone knows of an affordable MK2 shop, what sort of budget do you have for the restoration ?
 
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Hello,
I want to renovate the car in 5-8 years.
Now I'm doing a renovation of the second volga, so I have to wait for it to be done.
I want to buy jaguar spare parts step by step. Mainly because of little money. But the Jaguar runs and is capable of running. I don't want to just keep the jaguar in the garage but go through it sometimes.
Renovation of the jaguar will make the moon complete. The rusty will be mainly where it is not visible. I think the rust will be hidden under the paint.
Some parts I will do myself and something with a friend.
Now I'm looking for procedures and advice, especially Youtube. I'm also looking for a website with KM2 renovation.
I already bought something on ebay.
 
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Old 06-08-2019, 04:16 AM
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Hello,
I would like Jaguar to be as nicely renovated as Volga.


 
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I would take advice from TilleyJon. This car has a monocoque & for the car to be safe & roadworthy you are going to have to repair the shell properly. e.g. from the photo above the inner & outer sills have rusted away completely & new ones will need to be welded in to maintain the structural integrity of the shell. I would get the vehicle up on a hoist & check all areas for rust. You can then start collecting new repair panels as you can afford them.

Martin Robey can provide most of the repair panels you need.


https://www.martinrobey.com/jaguar/c...k-ii-mk-2/body




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Old 06-08-2019, 05:34 AM
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Valve Chatter have a look at Lin's site, it is extremely comprehensive and you will find huge amounts of info on there.

Make a list of as many parts as you can think of, you can see what's available on SNG website, the only parts that you should start to collect now will be parts that's are no longer available, so if they come up on ebay then you can get them when available, anything else you will just be storing until you can use them.

To do the inner/outer cills you will need to brace the car while you cut out the metal for replacement. This requires making some steel braces to hold the chassis in the correct position while metal is cut out, if you do not do this properly the doors will never fit correctly again !

Fully assess the structure first and get all the repair panels you can as you will have to fabricate the rest. When you strip the car you will end up with a lot of parts that you need to label up and store during the restoration, most of which will not go back on until the body is painted so you will have them stored for quite a while, the less parts you have the less likely you are to lose them so keep storage to a minimum.

I cannot stress enough that without a structurally sound car you have no car at all, take a methodical approach to the restoration, and even with the best planning you will find further issues that need addressing as you go, the structure is quite complex on these cars and rust will hide in places that you may not expect it if you are not familiar with their construction.
 
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Old 06-08-2019, 05:41 AM
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@ Glyn M Ruck: Thank You Very Much :-)
Very useful, probably for everyone.
I'll put the car on the hoist and take a picture of the chassis.
Peter
 
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Old 06-08-2019, 05:49 AM
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@ Tilley Jon :
Yes you're right.
Similarly, I renovate the Volga.
Volga is a very simple car compared to Jaguar :-)
But the Jaguar MK2 is a beautiful car.
Peter
 
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That's a pretty cool and ornate hood ornament on the Volga, I've never seen that before.
I wouldn't want to be a pedestrian and be struck head on that's for sure !

I also noticed a place for a crank, if that's what it's for ?
What size is the engine in the Volga, it looks too new to have such feature, although my Dad's 63 P5 Rover had a crank on it.

About the rust on the Jag, look inside where the pan-hard rod is linked to the frame, judging from the amount of rust on the inside of the sill, I wouldn't be surprised if that area is gone too.
Your spring pockets look not too bad though.
 

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Old 06-11-2019, 08:22 AM
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Hello JeffR1,

Yes tha place is for a crank :-)

The engine has a 4 cylinder 2445 ccm 59kW.





 
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Hello,
my first step - Jaguar Heritage Certificate :-)
 
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