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From what I've read the wheel size on the mark 2 is 5X5X15 with a 4" back space. . What I'm looking for are suggestions of another wheel besides wires that would look good and fit. It seems there are quite a few different wheels but with a 5.25 spacing. Does anyone have any suggestions I might look into?
 
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Wheels are such a personal thing. Do you like any of the XJ6 wheels that fit.

Excuse the rust bucket. 340 with Coombs rear arches on hoist.



 

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That's what I'm asking about. I thought some XJ6 wheels would fit but not sure which ones.
 
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Dunlop Racing wheels ~ centre lock.




 
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Those wheels on the 340 on the hoist are XJ6 series 2 as per this picture of my now departed car.

1974 SWB brown Series 2 XJ6
 
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The steel XJ wheels can touch the lower ball joint covers, depending on make. A touch with an angle grinder or a thin wheel spacer resolves things. They are at the opposite end of the cost spectrum from the Dunlop racing wheels. In terms of pitch circle and offset, almost any Jaguar wheel up to X308 is a possible swap. Interference elsewhere is another matter. For those in the US, Chevrolet used the same PCD. Personally, I'd consider 16 inch wheels. It might help with clearance and, more significantly, opens up a wider choice of tyres at lower prices. If it's what you like, you can go far from OE in rim width and diameter as Primaz has explained in other threads.

Glyn - the 340 is actually on the world's tallest axle stands.
 
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Yes Peter I know ~ They are builders stands. It was up there to do major floor surgery. I just used the word hoist as did Bill ~ why? FN.
You & I are both approaching old women territory. LOL.
 

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I'd comment whatever you called them. I'm repeatedly amazed by what we come up with to repair our cars. I can understand the advantages for access once the car was up there, but it required some creativity in jacking! My car is still at fairly standard axle stand height as I subject it to local jacking at various points. Once it's strong, straight, and stiff enough, I'll follow Cass and others' example and put it on a rotisserie for easy access.
 
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Rotisserie is the answer for home. I was lucky & had a 4 post hoist & zero rust to fix. In fact I had 2 X 4 post hoists. One drive-on & one 4 arm with rubber pads.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I hadn't thought of using a 16 inch wheel. Might have to look into that possibility.
 
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Aside from tyre availability & cost. It fills up the arch nicely in the right profile tyre. Our old Jags look stupid with huge wheels & ultra low profile tyres. 16 or 17" inch works.
 

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A small point and you are probably already aware of it, but, if you swap from steel wheels to alloy, you'll most likely be changing from lug centric to hub centric. The latter require flat lug nuts and probably the addition off a hub ring or a spacer with a hub ring.
 
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All Mercedes wheels are hub centric & lug centric. So basically hub centric Alloys with ball bolts. 66.6mm Bore.

Peter can no doubt quote the bore of the pepper pot Jag wheel which I happen to like. But as I said above. Wheels are very personal.
 

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Two and four post hoists are universally understood in most p[arts of the world.
On reflection I believe the S2 XJ6 wheels may be a little wide for a MK2 with spats.
My 195 X65X15 tyres on my MK2 do have reasonable clearance but I suspect a 205 width would be too tight at the rear end with spats.
In Aus. the Australian made Holden GM wheel bolt spacing patterns are the same as Jaguar.
So, I would recommend Oxendine check out North American GM wheels which may be the same and may widen his choices.
 
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Don't Merc use round head bolts? Round head bolts or nuts can centre a wheel, but they have to be tightened more carefully than conicals to do so, otherwise friction can fix the wheel before it centres. If they are round head, I suspect the engineer who designed it was relying on the hubs for initial centering when fitting the wheel and the round head so the running wheel is held (centred) independent of friction. With flat heads, the system relies on friction between the wheel and face of the hub to resist radial and rotational loads.

Of course, that's how I believe that it works. How it actually goes, what Merc say, and what the original engineer intended may well all be quite different. And we may all be wrong!
 
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Ball Head = Round head in Deutsche speak ~ they don't differentiate ~ semantics. Refer the WIS (Workshop Information System). But they are hub centric anyway standard. I would be shot if I gave you access. I'm the reason MBWorld can use the WIS & EPC as long as complete & not edited in any way. I will not risk that at any cost.~ work via the Chinese. Both are updated daily on log in. The Chinese will give you a clip on one specific day with no updates. They will sell you a Star computer stuck on that day. The same can be said of the Parts companies. Benz has an excellent system that blocks clones & shuts the majority down.

What is the bore of a Pepper Pot Jag wheel?
 

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There certainly are (or were before the increased trend to originality) Mk2's on pepperpots. I remember someone saying that they gave the impression of the old, whole week Ace hub caps!!? I can't remember if they kept original spats. If my memory is right, most of the extra rim width of series XJ wheels relative to Mk2 is on the inside so the clearance issues are mainly there. As such, OE spats might work. On the other hand, narrow spats would allow some thin hub centric spacers and look very good.
 
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https://www.wheel-size.com/size/jaguar/

​​​​​​.. may be useful for Jaguar and others
 
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Thanks!
 
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https://www.jag-lovers.org/ebooks/vi...&Vsection=14.1
... More useful numbers some way down the page
 


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