Scuttle not staying open
#2
I had no idea it is a vacuum operated vent until recently when a painter showed me why mine wont work. I have the climate control systems removed...
Get a handheld vacuum pump and apply a vacuum to the line running into the disk shaped metal piece inside the engine bay on the firewall. If the vacuum wont hold then you have a slow leak in one of the lines. (probably where it attaches to the switches in the dashboard)
Get a handheld vacuum pump and apply a vacuum to the line running into the disk shaped metal piece inside the engine bay on the firewall. If the vacuum wont hold then you have a slow leak in one of the lines. (probably where it attaches to the switches in the dashboard)
#3
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The Mark 2 scuttle cover was never vacuum operated, that was the S-type and 420 saloon, and the Mark 10. There is a second flap on the bulkhead that has an over-centre spring on it that the ventilation lever operates. The outer cover is operated from this flap. If you take off the scuttle cover, you'll see this flap. It is hinged from the top, and notorious for the hinge rusting up. You can get it to release with a bit of engenuity by spraying WD40 or similar to free it, then apply light engine oil. It is probably the hinge rusting that is causing your problems. If this service action fails, it is a real PITA as the centre console has to come out to get at it. I sometimes think the car was constructed around this flap !
#6
Hi Fraser, Thanks for your reply....it is torsional, there is no rust and the lever opens the flap no problem and the flap stays open......providing the car is stationary. As soon as there is normal road vibration...bang...it closes all by itself! I presume the torsion is not adjustable. Does the lever go over centre maybe.....any ideas????
Last edited by rtipping; 12-29-2013 at 11:31 AM. Reason: spelling
#7
Hi Fraser, Thanks for your reply....it is torsional, there is no rust and the lever opens the flap no problem and the flap stays open......providing the car is stationary. As soon as there is normal road vibration...bang...it closes all by itself! I presume the torsion is not adjustable. Does the lever go over centre maybe.....any ideas????
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#8
I've had mine apart a number of times recently. Here's what I'd do.
Lift the vent and remove the screen. There are three screws to accomplish this. One in the front and one on either end. Then take off the skuttle door by removing the two nuts on the bottom of the door.
Now you can see a wire "bail" connected to the floor of the compartment and to the two arms that the skuttle vent door was attached to. This bail is what goes "over center" both in the lowered and raised positions to hold the skuttle door in the selected position. Insure the bail is connected correctly and does what it is supposed to do when the inner operating lever is moved between the open and closed positions. If not, you may need a new bail assembly.
Lift the vent and remove the screen. There are three screws to accomplish this. One in the front and one on either end. Then take off the skuttle door by removing the two nuts on the bottom of the door.
Now you can see a wire "bail" connected to the floor of the compartment and to the two arms that the skuttle vent door was attached to. This bail is what goes "over center" both in the lowered and raised positions to hold the skuttle door in the selected position. Insure the bail is connected correctly and does what it is supposed to do when the inner operating lever is moved between the open and closed positions. If not, you may need a new bail assembly.
#9
If you look in the opening behind the drop down center panel, there's a bolt that come down from directly in the center of the scuttle. Turning it adjusts the "over center".
I'm in the process of stripping my '61 for welding & paint, and came across it while trying to remove the scuttle door.
George Richardson
1961 Jaguar MK 2
3.8, PS, autotrans
I'm in the process of stripping my '61 for welding & paint, and came across it while trying to remove the scuttle door.
George Richardson
1961 Jaguar MK 2
3.8, PS, autotrans
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#10
Scuttle not staying open
George,
Could you be a little clearer? Are you talking about looking into the scuttle opening from outside the car? Or, alternatively, from inside the car?
I am not sure what you mean by "over-center" Could you offer some more explanation?
Are you referring to the flat head bolt that is double nutted?
Thanks so much!
Lin
Could you be a little clearer? Are you talking about looking into the scuttle opening from outside the car? Or, alternatively, from inside the car?
I am not sure what you mean by "over-center" Could you offer some more explanation?
Are you referring to the flat head bolt that is double nutted?
Thanks so much!
Lin
#11
The "over center" is the point at which the scuttle snaps open or closed when moving the lever. Yes, the double nutted bolt you see inside the car behind the drop down center dash section.
It's interesting that the manual doesn't even have a drawing of the scuttle vent, let alone any instructions on it.
It's interesting that the manual doesn't even have a drawing of the scuttle vent, let alone any instructions on it.
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