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Hello from a continually hot place. It's not easy crawling around underneath a 1966 Jaguar S type trying to fix a problem that has me stumped. Grrrr.... I hope someone who sees this post might shed some light on what the problem is.
Ok, the car is a 1966, 3.4 L Jaguar S type, imported from England last year. Condition overall is patchy. I firstly attended to a stuck valve, since compression on No 4 cylinder was zero. Engine now running quite well, idles OK and has good oil pressure above 40 p.s.i at 2000 revs. Attention then turned to the front cross member, since the n/s front wheel was further ahead than the o/s. Removed the cross member and have spent the last six months replacing tie rods, track rod ends, v mounts and sandwich mounts. With a general clean up including new discs and overhauled calipers it all looks good now it is back on the car. Alignment now makes sense because the new V mounts actually secure the cross member in the right place. The problem however is with the power steering.
The cross member was removed from the car for several months. but while it was off I decided to hook up the sterring box and check it for leaks. All seemed good with that rough and ready test, so I was happy to re-fit it to the car. I could easily crank the steering box by hand. It didn't do what it is now doing and I am at a loss to know what to do next, help is needed.
So the entire assembly is mounted back on the car, and after much fiddling, the steering is reconnected. New top and bottom bushes are fitted to the steering column, resevoir is filled with standard ATF II transmission fluid, engine is switched on. As if there is a poltergeist, the steering wheel flies around on right lock until it meets the stop on the steering box. After some research, I top up the steering box with fluid. I then attempt to move the steering wheel either way to bleed the system, but that is practically impossible since the full force of the steering pump is driving the wheel over to the right. So I move the steering wheel from side to side with the engine off. About ten times if memory serves me right.
What is going on here? I thought it might be a blocked filter which whould prevent the return feed from the s/box to the resevoir, but still the same problem. The box itself is odd. It is a burman type, with HALE stamped on it and it has only three holes for mounting onto the cross member. Only two marry up to the pre formed threaded holes on the cross member. On removing the steering box and closer inspection of the surrounding area, it looks like the entire casing of the steering box has been chaffing on the underside of the oil filter housing.
My question is: Am I wasting my time here trying to sort out this particular s.box? And also, how can the present box perform ok when it was sitting on the garage floor and when put back on the car swing with such force to one side. Feedback is sorely needed. Sorry ,if this has turnd into a ramble, but I am not sure of what my next step should be and need advice on what the right thing to do next should be. Thanks for reading this, John
Ok, the car is a 1966, 3.4 L Jaguar S type, imported from England last year. Condition overall is patchy. I firstly attended to a stuck valve, since compression on No 4 cylinder was zero. Engine now running quite well, idles OK and has good oil pressure above 40 p.s.i at 2000 revs. Attention then turned to the front cross member, since the n/s front wheel was further ahead than the o/s. Removed the cross member and have spent the last six months replacing tie rods, track rod ends, v mounts and sandwich mounts. With a general clean up including new discs and overhauled calipers it all looks good now it is back on the car. Alignment now makes sense because the new V mounts actually secure the cross member in the right place. The problem however is with the power steering.
The cross member was removed from the car for several months. but while it was off I decided to hook up the sterring box and check it for leaks. All seemed good with that rough and ready test, so I was happy to re-fit it to the car. I could easily crank the steering box by hand. It didn't do what it is now doing and I am at a loss to know what to do next, help is needed.
So the entire assembly is mounted back on the car, and after much fiddling, the steering is reconnected. New top and bottom bushes are fitted to the steering column, resevoir is filled with standard ATF II transmission fluid, engine is switched on. As if there is a poltergeist, the steering wheel flies around on right lock until it meets the stop on the steering box. After some research, I top up the steering box with fluid. I then attempt to move the steering wheel either way to bleed the system, but that is practically impossible since the full force of the steering pump is driving the wheel over to the right. So I move the steering wheel from side to side with the engine off. About ten times if memory serves me right.
What is going on here? I thought it might be a blocked filter which whould prevent the return feed from the s/box to the resevoir, but still the same problem. The box itself is odd. It is a burman type, with HALE stamped on it and it has only three holes for mounting onto the cross member. Only two marry up to the pre formed threaded holes on the cross member. On removing the steering box and closer inspection of the surrounding area, it looks like the entire casing of the steering box has been chaffing on the underside of the oil filter housing.
My question is: Am I wasting my time here trying to sort out this particular s.box? And also, how can the present box perform ok when it was sitting on the garage floor and when put back on the car swing with such force to one side. Feedback is sorely needed. Sorry ,if this has turnd into a ramble, but I am not sure of what my next step should be and need advice on what the right thing to do next should be. Thanks for reading this, John
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Welcome to the forums John,
Good to have you with us.
I've copied your post to the S Type forum for advice from members with the same model. Here's the direct link to it:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...ng-box-261510/
Follow this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...40-daimler-61/ to the main MKI / MKII S type 240 340 & Daimler forum for help, advice and information. The 'HOW TO' thread at the top is a good place to start for information on regular issues. You can also use the Europe Region forum by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/europe-42/ to find other members in your region.
Please read the guidance for new members ( https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...ned-up-241802/ ) which answers many of the most frequent questions about getting started.
Enjoy the forums.
Graham
Good to have you with us.
I've copied your post to the S Type forum for advice from members with the same model. Here's the direct link to it:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...ng-box-261510/
Follow this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...40-daimler-61/ to the main MKI / MKII S type 240 340 & Daimler forum for help, advice and information. The 'HOW TO' thread at the top is a good place to start for information on regular issues. You can also use the Europe Region forum by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/europe-42/ to find other members in your region.
Please read the guidance for new members ( https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...ned-up-241802/ ) which answers many of the most frequent questions about getting started.
Enjoy the forums.
Graham
Last edited by GGG; 08-06-2022 at 05:04 AM.
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Hello Graham,
Thank you so much for re-directing my post. I realise it was not so much of an intro about the car or me,but more of an outpouring of sheer frustration. I am sure that you get this quite a lot. I am pinning my hopes on someone seeing the tech issue I describe and shedding some light on it. Tx once again,John
Thank you so much for re-directing my post. I realise it was not so much of an intro about the car or me,but more of an outpouring of sheer frustration. I am sure that you get this quite a lot. I am pinning my hopes on someone seeing the tech issue I describe and shedding some light on it. Tx once again,John
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Welcome to Jaguar Forums John,
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Enjoy the forum.
If you haven't done so already you should add your car details to your signature to help others to help you.
If you need help with getting around and using the forum follow this link for some help Forum Help
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Welcome John,
That is scary and disheartening. There are some real s-type experts on the forum, and I feel sure someone can give qualified advise. For now all I can suggest is making sure you have the lines at the pump on correctly. Mine works but just leaks like a sieve so I dont get to use it nearly often enough. Good luck.
That is scary and disheartening. There are some real s-type experts on the forum, and I feel sure someone can give qualified advise. For now all I can suggest is making sure you have the lines at the pump on correctly. Mine works but just leaks like a sieve so I dont get to use it nearly often enough. Good luck.
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Jerry,
That was very encouraging, thank you. It has been a long time preparing the cross member and looking forward to the big day to try it out....and then the steering wheel spins round all by itself. Another lesson in fortitude, me thinks.....Bye for now, John
PS. Very impressed by your vehicle collection....that is a lot of mouths to feed!
That was very encouraging, thank you. It has been a long time preparing the cross member and looking forward to the big day to try it out....and then the steering wheel spins round all by itself. Another lesson in fortitude, me thinks.....Bye for now, John
PS. Very impressed by your vehicle collection....that is a lot of mouths to feed!
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