Looking for my Dream Car - Jaguar XJ8
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Hello. I'm new here and I'm about to embark on my Jaguar phase. I work as an analyst in the finance department of a nationwide insurance broker, I play guitar, bass, sing and write & record songs and my wife and I love cruises as our first vacation choice.
I have Jonesed for a Jag for as long as I can remember, but I did not want to pay the price for a new one and didn't want to take a chance that I would have unreliable transportation with a car brand that is not always known for reliability. Now I've reached a point where my wife always has a new car (lease), and she's about to retire soon. I also have reliable back-up transportation with a nice Honda Silver Wing scooter, so I'm about to take a flyer on a mid-2000s Jaguar XJ8.
There are three nice cars near me, but wow.. they are very proud of them judging by the asking prices. One is a 2006 with about 97K miles with a nice Infinity sound system in it with BlueTooth and things like Apple Car Play. Very nicely installed, I must say. He wants $11K for it. Then there is a 2000 one for almost $14K at a luxury dealer, but it only has 37K miles.. which I think could be bad if the car had sat for a long time. Today, I am going down to look at a beautiful radiance red 2005 model with 130K miles on it, in pictures, it looks to be in great shape. They are asking $8K for it. Car Guru says that is about $2K high.. I'm going to test drive it and if I like it, make a lower offer.
Is there anything specific I should know to ask the dealer? Anything service related that is a known problem or any warning signs I should keep my eye out for? I test drove a BMW 7 series and I went and looked at a similar vintage Mercedes Benz S Class, just because other sites say they are the 'comparable' cars.. but let's face it, the Jag has my heart - it is just plain beauty to look at.
Thank you. I hope to be a full-fledged qualified member and Jag owner in this forum sooner than later.
I have Jonesed for a Jag for as long as I can remember, but I did not want to pay the price for a new one and didn't want to take a chance that I would have unreliable transportation with a car brand that is not always known for reliability. Now I've reached a point where my wife always has a new car (lease), and she's about to retire soon. I also have reliable back-up transportation with a nice Honda Silver Wing scooter, so I'm about to take a flyer on a mid-2000s Jaguar XJ8.
There are three nice cars near me, but wow.. they are very proud of them judging by the asking prices. One is a 2006 with about 97K miles with a nice Infinity sound system in it with BlueTooth and things like Apple Car Play. Very nicely installed, I must say. He wants $11K for it. Then there is a 2000 one for almost $14K at a luxury dealer, but it only has 37K miles.. which I think could be bad if the car had sat for a long time. Today, I am going down to look at a beautiful radiance red 2005 model with 130K miles on it, in pictures, it looks to be in great shape. They are asking $8K for it. Car Guru says that is about $2K high.. I'm going to test drive it and if I like it, make a lower offer.
Is there anything specific I should know to ask the dealer? Anything service related that is a known problem or any warning signs I should keep my eye out for? I test drove a BMW 7 series and I went and looked at a similar vintage Mercedes Benz S Class, just because other sites say they are the 'comparable' cars.. but let's face it, the Jag has my heart - it is just plain beauty to look at.
Thank you. I hope to be a full-fledged qualified member and Jag owner in this forum sooner than later.
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The X308 had some longevity issues, but in all probability if the car is still on the road, they have already been sorted. However, you should ask to see the maintenance records to confirm if the secondary timing chain tensioners (98-02), the transmission main pressure valve (98-02 except S/C) and water pump (98-00) have been upgraded (not to mention all the recommended fluid changes). If not you can simply negotiate a lower price and have them sorted yourself but these are potential catastrophic failures and with 15+ year old cars could be looming around the next corner. By 2003 model, the factory had pretty much addressed all the issues and that's really the best year to get. That's not to say they were bad cars at all. My 2000 model had only a single failure in its first 12 years and 90,000 miles having to do with the mechanism that moves the steering wheel up and out of the way to make it easier to enter and exit the car. That's Toyota level reliability. But you're not buying a new one. After 15+ years old, all the plastic, rubber, and vinyl is brittle. It's going to need hoses, belts, gaskets, seals etc. in the very near future if not now regardless of mileage so you'll need to set aside a repair budget.
I'm not familiar with X350's foibles except that unlike the X308, they went to an air suspension system to try and recoup some of the predecessor's "magic carpet ride". Those systems can be problematic and expensive to repair whether its on a Mercedes, Lincoln or Jaguar. Beiing newer, the plastics, rubbers and vinyls may be in better shape and be a few years longer before it starts needing those kinds of repairs but still will need them before you know it.
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Welcome to the forum Patrick,
Good to have you with us at Jaguar forums.
Follow this link XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 ) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the X308 forum for help, advice and information on the earlier steel bodied model and this one https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-x350-x358-28/ to the X350 forum for the same on the later aluminium bodied model. The 'HOW TO' thread at the top of each is a good place to start for information on regular issues.
Jaguars are expensive to buy new and proper maintenance gets more expensive as they get older. A comprehensive service history with supporting bills is essential. With the mileages on the examples you are considering, they should have been serviced on a time elapsed basis - every 12 Months. If you aren't familiar with the marque then a professional inspection of a potential purchase by a Jaguar Dealer or Independent Specialist is advisable.
You can also visit the US Western Region forum by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/us-western-38/ to find other members in your region.
Good luck with the search and enjoy the forums.
Graham
Good to have you with us at Jaguar forums.
Follow this link XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 ) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the X308 forum for help, advice and information on the earlier steel bodied model and this one https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-x350-x358-28/ to the X350 forum for the same on the later aluminium bodied model. The 'HOW TO' thread at the top of each is a good place to start for information on regular issues.
Jaguars are expensive to buy new and proper maintenance gets more expensive as they get older. A comprehensive service history with supporting bills is essential. With the mileages on the examples you are considering, they should have been serviced on a time elapsed basis - every 12 Months. If you aren't familiar with the marque then a professional inspection of a potential purchase by a Jaguar Dealer or Independent Specialist is advisable.
You can also visit the US Western Region forum by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/us-western-38/ to find other members in your region.
Good luck with the search and enjoy the forums.
Graham
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