Not yet a Jaguar owner in DC
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Not yet a Jaguar owner in DC
I need another car, and a used Jaguar seems to be a pretty good deal. Everything else with the least bit of style costs more. I spent a lot of time looking at different types of 1995-2003 XJ, but finally decided after some test-drives that I just couldn't fit into them comfortably (I'm 5'10"). Looking at the 2004-2007 XJ now. I don't like the looks of the newer XJ and XK, and the S-type is too ostentatious for me.
A few things bother me while I look for old XJs. First is I've found a lot of people hate Jaguar drivers! What do you think? Have you run into that? Or they tell me I'm not old enough or black enough to drive a Jaguar.
Second is that XJs don't last past 130,000 miles. I searched on cars.com for S-types and XJs within 250 miles with over 130,000 miles. There were 24 S-types and only 4 XJs. And Jaguar sold a lot more XJs than S-types! The same search for cars under 100,000 miles turns up 118 S-types and 267 XJs. So an S-type is 14 times as likely as an XJ to top 130,000 miles. There were also many more high mileage X-types than XJs. What's with that?
Third is that 3 out of 4 of the 2000-2003 XJs I've test-driven started smoking after a couple of miles, all in the same place. Oil leaks from the back left corner of the engine and makes a plume of smoke. Is this normal?
Fourth is I don't like how the XJ takes corners. It feels like it's going to roll over. Kinda ruins the sporty feel any time I turn the wheel.
I know the XJR is supposed to be much better, but there just aren't enough of them. I haven't found a single old low-mileage XJR.
Also considering a Chrysler Crossfire. They're almost comparable, cost-wise, and a lot more comfortable to sit in. Soft and spacious, not hard and tight like the XJ's seat, which I worry will cut off the circulation to my legs on a long ride. Hard to find, though. A lot less common than used Jaguars. And hard to see out the rear, which I hate.
A few things bother me while I look for old XJs. First is I've found a lot of people hate Jaguar drivers! What do you think? Have you run into that? Or they tell me I'm not old enough or black enough to drive a Jaguar.
Second is that XJs don't last past 130,000 miles. I searched on cars.com for S-types and XJs within 250 miles with over 130,000 miles. There were 24 S-types and only 4 XJs. And Jaguar sold a lot more XJs than S-types! The same search for cars under 100,000 miles turns up 118 S-types and 267 XJs. So an S-type is 14 times as likely as an XJ to top 130,000 miles. There were also many more high mileage X-types than XJs. What's with that?
Third is that 3 out of 4 of the 2000-2003 XJs I've test-driven started smoking after a couple of miles, all in the same place. Oil leaks from the back left corner of the engine and makes a plume of smoke. Is this normal?
Fourth is I don't like how the XJ takes corners. It feels like it's going to roll over. Kinda ruins the sporty feel any time I turn the wheel.
I know the XJR is supposed to be much better, but there just aren't enough of them. I haven't found a single old low-mileage XJR.
Also considering a Chrysler Crossfire. They're almost comparable, cost-wise, and a lot more comfortable to sit in. Soft and spacious, not hard and tight like the XJ's seat, which I worry will cut off the circulation to my legs on a long ride. Hard to find, though. A lot less common than used Jaguars. And hard to see out the rear, which I hate.
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Welcome to the forum Xeno,
After reading your Intro I cannot see why you are even still considering a Jaguar.
Follow this link XJ ( X350 & X358 ) XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the X350 section for help, advice and information. The 'HOW TO' thread at the top there is a good place to start for info on regular issues.
You may also like to visit the US Mid Atlantic Region by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/mid-atlantic-md-va-dc-de-wv-65/ to find other members in your region.
Enjoy the forum.
Graham
After reading your Intro I cannot see why you are even still considering a Jaguar.
Follow this link XJ ( X350 & X358 ) XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the X350 section for help, advice and information. The 'HOW TO' thread at the top there is a good place to start for info on regular issues.
You may also like to visit the US Mid Atlantic Region by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/mid-atlantic-md-va-dc-de-wv-65/ to find other members in your region.
Enjoy the forum.
Graham
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Why specifically do you say that? It sounds like you're saying that, yes, XJs have serious reliability problems, and if I can't afford to have a car that doesn't work, I shouldn't buy a Jaguar.
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Specifically my point was that there is not one positive comment in your summary of the various Jaguar models you have tried.
The inevitable conclusion has to be that you are unlikely to enjoy Jaguar ownership.
Graham
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If you don't like something, don't buy it, simple as that.
We are not here as a forum to push you towards a purchase.
If you start with 'I'm 5'10" and can't fit comfortably, then I would think that you will have a problem with pretty much every car out there. Jag or not.
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Sorry--I didn't talk about the things I like about the XJ, because I'm not worried about them. I'm worried about the things that I talked about. So I'd like to know, for instance, whether the seat hurts after a long trip. I have a blood clot in my leg, so it's very important not to get a car with a seat the cuts off circulation in the legs. I'm worried about the transmission and about the engine leaking oil, because all the Jaguars I drove had jerky transmissions and most of them leaked a lot of oil. Am I just having bad luck? Should I be looking for private sales instead of dealers?
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If you've got a blood clot in your leg go immediately to a hospital.
Blood clots cause pulmonary embolism and possible death.
On the other hand if you like Jaguars just buy one.
I've just driven mine back home on a country road at up to 120 mph with the top down and laughing all the way.
If the Grim Reaper had appeared I'd have given him a ride then gladly gone with him.
Blood clots cause pulmonary embolism and possible death.
On the other hand if you like Jaguars just buy one.
I've just driven mine back home on a country road at up to 120 mph with the top down and laughing all the way.
If the Grim Reaper had appeared I'd have given him a ride then gladly gone with him.
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Sorry--I didn't talk about the things I like about the XJ, because I'm not worried about them. I'm worried about the things that I talked about. So I'd like to know, for instance, whether the seat hurts after a long trip. I have a blood clot in my leg, so it's very important not to get a car with a seat the cuts off circulation in the legs. I'm worried about the transmission and about the engine leaking oil, because all the Jaguars I drove had jerky transmissions and most of them leaked a lot of oil. Am I just having bad luck? Should I be looking for private sales instead of dealers?
Transmission changes should be smooth.
Oil leaks on the V8's are very often from the camshaft cover seals and easily rectified.
Graham
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