S-type 4.2 2002 won't turn over
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05-07-2014, 04:30 AM
S-type 4.2 2002 won't turn over
Hi All, I have found this forum an absolute gift. However I'm struggling hugely at the moment and need some help!
My ride, which I've had for nearly two years, has never cuased me any trouble and enjoy it to the full, however, Friday week back I drove
about 120 miles home through some really bad rain mostly on the M25 which is unusual to be driving rather than being stationary and start stopping! Anyways, not a blink not a flash of lights warning that is and no choking or spluttering absolutely great ride. Got home stopped car unloaded some bags and then started her up again to take my daughter to work. Came back parked up over night. Went to the car to start next morning central locks all came off ignition noise releasing steering lock as usual turned key all instrument lights came up as usual turned to engage starter and ............Silence, not a noise, then on the LED panel up came, ABS Fault, DSC unavailable, Drivers door open, Gearbox Fault, ParkBrake Fault. Thought this could be battery, Jumped the battery with wifes car still nothing. Checked the fuses all fuses in all three box's fine, when ignition on ECM seems to kick in so thought starter motor, Jumped relay in engine compartment and starte turns engine over.Did't want to fire up.
Called RAC, they OBD and got P1637, P1638, P1000, & P1699 the technician had no solution and honestly said this was teh 2nd S-type he'd ever been out to. Apart from a tow to the local Jaguar dealer I was left scratching my head having looked up the codes.
So.........here I went. Water ingression on the ECM got to that under the air intake filter and removed, absolutely no water no damp even from the Air con area. Factory condition, as was the Front Electronic Module (FEM) behind passenger kick panel, and the Rear Electronic Module (REM) on chassis harness in the o/s boot area just near filler cap. Boot floor and complete compartment absolutely dry, adjusted earths points those I could find in boot. Downloaded wiring diagram and started to meter relays, jacked up and removed and cleaned ABS & speed sensors. Front ones Ohms 720/30 at split connectors behind wheel splash guards. On the diagnostic Plug (OBD plugin) understeering wheel at Pin 6 and 14 ohms at 128, Checked and removed plug harness at ABS cluster where the DSC box attached no ingression in fact all plug/connectors all electrolytic silliconed up so no corrossion either.
Had an auto electrician
look at it and he doesnt seem to know coming up with the network works on Can link High and Can link Low and if the data doesnt match when the ECM reads it won't connect the other services. But he has no resolve to the issue.
So I'm really in need of some advice if anyone has any to give me. I just can't understand why this happend when the car was parked up. Oh another point even with the ignition on and foot on brake it will not slide out of Park but if you try to move the stick to the left the b,b,b,b,b,b,b, alarm goes off confirming microswitch in the gearbox assembly is operative.
Thanks in advance
HotelFoxtrott
S-type, 4.2 SE 2002
My ride, which I've had for nearly two years, has never cuased me any trouble and enjoy it to the full, however, Friday week back I drove
about 120 miles home through some really bad rain mostly on the M25 which is unusual to be driving rather than being stationary and start stopping! Anyways, not a blink not a flash of lights warning that is and no choking or spluttering absolutely great ride. Got home stopped car unloaded some bags and then started her up again to take my daughter to work. Came back parked up over night. Went to the car to start next morning central locks all came off ignition noise releasing steering lock as usual turned key all instrument lights came up as usual turned to engage starter and ............Silence, not a noise, then on the LED panel up came, ABS Fault, DSC unavailable, Drivers door open, Gearbox Fault, ParkBrake Fault. Thought this could be battery, Jumped the battery with wifes car still nothing. Checked the fuses all fuses in all three box's fine, when ignition on ECM seems to kick in so thought starter motor, Jumped relay in engine compartment and starte turns engine over.Did't want to fire up. Called RAC, they OBD and got P1637, P1638, P1000, & P1699 the technician had no solution and honestly said this was teh 2nd S-type he'd ever been out to. Apart from a tow to the local Jaguar dealer I was left scratching my head having looked up the codes.
So.........here I went. Water ingression on the ECM got to that under the air intake filter and removed, absolutely no water no damp even from the Air con area. Factory condition, as was the Front Electronic Module (FEM) behind passenger kick panel, and the Rear Electronic Module (REM) on chassis harness in the o/s boot area just near filler cap. Boot floor and complete compartment absolutely dry, adjusted earths points those I could find in boot. Downloaded wiring diagram and started to meter relays, jacked up and removed and cleaned ABS & speed sensors. Front ones Ohms 720/30 at split connectors behind wheel splash guards. On the diagnostic Plug (OBD plugin) understeering wheel at Pin 6 and 14 ohms at 128, Checked and removed plug harness at ABS cluster where the DSC box attached no ingression in fact all plug/connectors all electrolytic silliconed up so no corrossion either.
Had an auto electrician
look at it and he doesnt seem to know coming up with the network works on Can link High and Can link Low and if the data doesnt match when the ECM reads it won't connect the other services. But he has no resolve to the issue.So I'm really in need of some advice if anyone has any to give me. I just can't understand why this happend when the car was parked up. Oh another point even with the ignition on and foot on brake it will not slide out of Park but if you try to move the stick to the left the b,b,b,b,b,b,b, alarm goes off confirming microswitch in the gearbox assembly is operative.
Thanks in advance
HotelFoxtrott
S-type, 4.2 SE 2002
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05-07-2014, 05:01 AM
Welcome to the forum HotelFoxtrot,
Good to have you with us at Jaguar forums and sorry to hear about your non-start issue.
I can see you have already posted this in S-Type tech forum so there's no need fpr a link to it from me. Although not applicable yto this issue, the 'HOW TO' thread at the top is a good place to start for info on regular issues.
You can also visit the UK Region forum by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/uk-68/ to find other members in your region.
Enjoy the forums.
Graham
Good to have you with us at Jaguar forums and sorry to hear about your non-start issue.
I can see you have already posted this in S-Type tech forum so there's no need fpr a link to it from me. Although not applicable yto this issue, the 'HOW TO' thread at the top is a good place to start for info on regular issues.
You can also visit the UK Region forum by following this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/uk-68/ to find other members in your region.
Enjoy the forums.
Graham
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