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Talked to the Chevy dealer owned by my Jag dealer , next door, about Vette conv. They already have a years worth of orders in with only 15% left for stock! All they are allowed to take, wouldn't tell me the actual number. He assumed stock will go over sticker the first year while special order are at sticker. No specific dates either!
I've done my part. My first car was a manual transmission Datsun 200SX
When I bought my first car, I bought a manual 1995 Jeep Wrangler YJ.
In 2015, I ordered a manual F-Type, factory direct-a-mundo!
In 2019, Jag replaced my first one with a 2019.5 manual transmission.
I proudly say that, because I get to act as naive as all get out:
Why is it, in car forums, subreddits, etc the lust for manual transmissions is profound, mythical, and legendary....
But no one buys one? I simply don't get it. Is it all fanboy groupthink with idiots constantly lying about it?
Or is it just that people love them, but they've commutes and AT are really just that good?
It's always lost on me, and I always want to ask. Maybe I'll post on reddit and see if they're any interesting responses.
Are u kiddin'? Most Vette owners are in their 60's Most young inexperienced drivers can't afford $70K+
This 495 hp is only 35 more than current 460 hp
So u mean most of us R owners like me, can't handle 550 hp?
So why u don't see a bunch of crashed F-type R & SVRs?
I've done my part. My first car was a manual transmission Datsun 200SX
When I bought my first car, I bought a manual 1995 Jeep Wrangler YJ.
In 2015, I ordered a manual F-Type, factory direct-a-mundo!
In 2019, Jag replaced my first one with a 2019.5 manual transmission.
I proudly say that, because I get to act as naive as all get out:
Why is it, in car forums, subreddits, etc the lust for manual transmissions is profound, mythical, and legendary....
But no one buys one? I simply don't get it. Is it all fanboy groupthink with idiots constantly lying about it?
Or is it just that people love them, but they've commutes and AT are really just that good?
It's always lost on me, and I always want to ask. Maybe I'll post on reddit and see if they're any interesting responses.
No clue. I’ve never owned an automatic and have never found an MT to be bothersome during any commute even in the worst traffic areas of the country.
Vettes are always desirable. Performance. Cost. Availability. Panache. The issue is that the desirability declines when you get really close. The dimensions get tight. The finishes get inexpensive. The technology is old. The styling is weak. But having said that I was blown away with the 60K base price. A lot of people will legitimately say for half price I can do without the European sophistication.
The technology is old??? Really. I have a 2017 Grand Sport and a 2018 f type R. I don’t want to say the Corvette blows away the Jag in technology but it’s definitely the more up to date car. The Jag doesn’t even have speed sensitive volume or Apple car play. The vettw has front and rear cameras, it has a video recorder that allows overlays of performance metrics, just a bunch of cool tech stuff the R doesn’t have. I’m guessing you haven’t spent any time in a C7. BTW I have the 3LT package and the interior of the vette is actually a bit nicer than the Jag. AND while I’m on my soap box 😄 the styling of the C7 is just as exotic as the R. Just my opinion of course but I’ve owned a LOT of vehicles and have experienced the good, the bad and the ugly. I was gonna sell my Vette but I think I just talked myself out of it. Lol.
No clue. I’ve never owned an automatic and have never found an MT to be bothersome during any commute even in the worst traffic areas of the country.
I remember my left leg shaking from holding the clutch in on my '67 GTO with its 3,000 lb pressure plate on my drive into and out of D.C. from the suburbs back in the day--and that was when I was a serious weight lifter. (Damn, I wish I had kept that car)
I've done my part. My first car was a manual transmission Datsun 200SX
When I bought my first car, I bought a manual 1995 Jeep Wrangler YJ.
In 2015, I ordered a manual F-Type, factory direct-a-mundo!
In 2019, Jag replaced my first one with a 2019.5 manual transmission.
I proudly say that, because I get to act as naive as all get out:
Why is it, in car forums, subreddits, etc the lust for manual transmissions is profound, mythical, and legendary....
But no one buys one? I simply don't get it. Is it all fanboy groupthink with idiots constantly lying about it?
Or is it just that people love them, but they've commutes and AT are really just that good?
It's always lost on me, and I always want to ask. Maybe I'll post on reddit and see if they're any interesting responses.
I'll respond.
To me, there's a time and place for a manual car. To and from San Jose / Santa Clara during rush hour equates to roughly an hour commute, sometimes more. I used to do this in my 6MT E46 M3, and I hated it. I found it incredibly annoying to be letting the clutch in and out for about 2.5 hours non stop each day. After I sold my E46 M3, I gave it another go and bought an E36 M3. Sold that a year later. I love a manual car for back road for weekend car, but will not purchase one for my daily driver.
On the forums, I seem to be the minority, but the sales numbers of manual cars across manufacturers certainly don't lie.
My wife 60 something Y/O will only drive a manual. Last car we bought her, a Suzuki grand vatara, ( Her Pick ), had to be a manual. I got lucky and found one in San Diego, there were about 3 on the west coast with a manual. She wont drive any other of our cars 2008 Passat wagon, or the Jag, because they are automatics. She wont even get in the Jag. "I feel like I am wrapped in metal with my *** dragging on the ground."
The last manual that I owned was a 2012 370Z, I hated the clutch as it felt like mush. Plus going to LA was a royal PITA. Now my 1990 300ZX twin turbo, that was a great car with the manual. Made a great track car and daily driver.
No clue. I’ve never owned an automatic and have never found an MT to be bothersome during any commute even in the worst traffic areas of the country.
+1 - I live and drive in the Chicago metro area and experience a fair amount of stop & go, bumper to bumper traffic but I must say that the MT in the F Type is not anything like the MT in previous cars I've owned. The technology is pretty cool and allows you to drive the car in 1st or 2nd gear at slow speeds without use of the clutch that would have stalled my previous cars. With a little practice, its really pretty easy and comfortable.
I was given an option to buy one of my local Chevy dealer's allotment of 20 2020 Vettes. It's a thank you of sorts for me. What the heck - I'm going to do it. Not to own it, but to flip it. Apparently demand is off the charts. So, in flipping it, what is the best options/colors? I think I'm going to go with red with black interior and loaded. And yes, I'm getting an "early run" car.
Yes - Red w/ black interior, all options, Z51, best seats, red belts, in/out carbon, illumination in engine bay ... load it up like a Xmas tree. Prob close to $80k. The only option I could think of that would be a NO would be the high wing.
An easy $5k to $10k profit for you and neighborhood bragging rights. Would sell easy on Ebay. VERY NICE of the dealer!
A $6k allotment spot just sold on Ebay, so you are in the cat bird seat.
Or you could drive it for six months, put 5k miles on it and probably sell it for what you paid. You may actually love it and want to keep it. You win either way.
Last edited by Burt Gummer; 08-02-2019 at 02:11 AM.
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