CLS 63 AMG...new kid on the block
#42
Not a software update. It's something many of us have discussed as something that should have been available on our cars from the onset.
Expat, thanks for the pics. It's difficult to really see on a dark car. Maybe if I saw it on a Spectrum Blue vs. a non painted c-pillar in Spectrum blue. I don't find it that offensive...not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm far more distressed about the lack of quad exhaust, rear diffuser, side skirts, air intakes, and more aggressive front fascia on the SS or SC than I am about the c-pillar not matching the paint. I guess I'm alone in that.
Expat, thanks for the pics. It's difficult to really see on a dark car. Maybe if I saw it on a Spectrum Blue vs. a non painted c-pillar in Spectrum blue. I don't find it that offensive...not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm far more distressed about the lack of quad exhaust, rear diffuser, side skirts, air intakes, and more aggressive front fascia on the SS or SC than I am about the c-pillar not matching the paint. I guess I'm alone in that.
#43
I am not a fan of the leaper. I think it looks out of place on this generation of cars. Even the new Bentleys have gotten away from their leaper. As cars become more aerodynamic and sportier leaper just don't make sense. On a nice stately designed car yes. But at least its an option is you want it. I took the XJL off the back of mine because I thought it took away from the beauty of the jaguar on the back of the trunk.
#44
I am not a fan of the leaper. I think it looks out of place on this generation of cars. Even the new Bentleys have gotten away from their leaper. As cars become more aerodynamic and sportier leaper just don't make sense. On a nice stately designed car yes. But at least its an option is you want it. I took the XJL off the back of mine because I thought it took away from the beauty of the jaguar on the back of the trunk.
I was pondering the question and that is why I even put a mock up on first. I wasn't even shure myself at first wondering if it looked out of place. In the end I decided for the leaper. Part of it, just to have a bit more customized difference. Like the opposite as you did with your trunk leaper.
I propably won't take mine off. But at first I was taken aback by such an asymetrical ornament and still don't know what to think off. Overall the leaper is a beautyful logo /ornament so compared to many others.
That is also the reason why I do like my leaper on the hood.
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#47
Yeah yeah, I know you guys got a point there. It just can't find the right spot on the hood as the hood now stops before that front fascia. I know, I know.
I don't see much udnerstatement on the XJ's design though. Just the interiour alonw screams "attention" and that is why I chose the car over the usual Mercedes S, BMW 7 and Lexus staple.
I think if one wants understatement, the Lexus 460, or Audi 8 comes to mind. Don't you think.
Nonetheless, I agree that the leaper on the hood is a tricky and polarizing one. Looks like that Jaguar did their homework with the focus group correctly and left it off. Can always add it. Can't remove it.
I don't see much udnerstatement on the XJ's design though. Just the interiour alonw screams "attention" and that is why I chose the car over the usual Mercedes S, BMW 7 and Lexus staple.
I think if one wants understatement, the Lexus 460, or Audi 8 comes to mind. Don't you think.
Nonetheless, I agree that the leaper on the hood is a tricky and polarizing one. Looks like that Jaguar did their homework with the focus group correctly and left it off. Can always add it. Can't remove it.
#48
I agree completely, and I own one LOL (460) - those are great cars, though. Heck they all are in this category, it's just that some of them give more annoyances than others. As for the leaper, what if it's installed on the fascia, or as close as possible to it on the edge of the hood? I don't know... it's just a more fluid body design, maybe that's why the leaper kinda stands out too much.
#49
I always tell people, if you want the perfect car, get a Lexus. My wife drives a GX470 and I tell you, its near perfect.
But I need a bit more adrenalin rush. I tried different placements with the leaper on the hood. (An hold one attached with double sided tape). Point is, there is no perfect spot for it. The factory determined spot is the best there is. The new design just doesn't lend itself to a good leaper spot. Mmhhhh....well....I am stuck with it now. I do like it. Probably because I got used to it.
But I need a bit more adrenalin rush. I tried different placements with the leaper on the hood. (An hold one attached with double sided tape). Point is, there is no perfect spot for it. The factory determined spot is the best there is. The new design just doesn't lend itself to a good leaper spot. Mmhhhh....well....I am stuck with it now. I do like it. Probably because I got used to it.
#50
I always tell people, if you want the perfect car, get a Lexus. My wife drives a GX470 and I tell you, its near perfect.
But I need a bit more adrenalin rush. I tried different placements with the leaper on the hood. (An hold one attached with double sided tape). Point is, there is no perfect spot for it. The factory determined spot is the best there is. The new design just doesn't lend itself to a good leaper spot. Mmhhhh....well....I am stuck with it now. I do like it. Probably because I got used to it.
But I need a bit more adrenalin rush. I tried different placements with the leaper on the hood. (An hold one attached with double sided tape). Point is, there is no perfect spot for it. The factory determined spot is the best there is. The new design just doesn't lend itself to a good leaper spot. Mmhhhh....well....I am stuck with it now. I do like it. Probably because I got used to it.
#51
Well, I guess we should get expert, Mr. Ian Callum, to have a look at it. I just get the feeling that he would say "leave it off".
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#54
Anyone have a photoshop of c pillars in body color? I got ultimate black, so i dont notice it at all. Rear window is useless...**** on a nun, as they say in Jersey. What's odd is that there really is room to lower the rear shelf a bit for more visibility. This is one of the reasons why I think it really compares well to the CLS and Quattroporte. I imagine the a7 sportback will be the same.
There is at least one big change coming to the XJ in the next two months. If you're planning on buying one...you should wait. Can't tell you more than that, but I'm pissed I didn't wait a little longer. Ought...the suspense. I've been sworn to secrecy.
There is at least one big change coming to the XJ in the next two months. If you're planning on buying one...you should wait. Can't tell you more than that, but I'm pissed I didn't wait a little longer. Ought...the suspense. I've been sworn to secrecy.
#58
It was supposed to be here about two months from when I first mentioned it in this thread. Not sure when I did that, but we must be close. It rhymes with depining deer feets. Oh, and it looks like we now have the engine for the XJ type-R with the unveiling of the new 550hp XK engine. I've put in my two pennies that it should be coined the XJ Supersport "Black Edition". I'm guessing we will see it announced in the next 6 months, but thats all speculation only part. I haven't been told anything suggesting it at all. It's pretty clear though with all of the sport variations on the XK that they realize the need for this market segment. And with Alpina B7, S63 and S65, S8, and others, they need to fill that void with a more aggressive XJ sedan choice.
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#59
Kid,
I can't imagine what it could be! One more question, though: do you know if both the long and regular wheelbase XJs will get these deer feets you speak of?
Thanks for your help. Folks like you make this site a great resource.
I can't imagine what it could be! One more question, though: do you know if both the long and regular wheelbase XJs will get these deer feets you speak of?
Thanks for your help. Folks like you make this site a great resource.
It was supposed to be here about two months from when I first mentioned it in this thread. Not sure when I did that, but we must be close. It rhymes with depining deer feets. Oh, and it looks like we now have the engine for the XJ type-R with the unveiling of the new 550hp XK engine. I've put in my two pennies that it should be coined the XJ Supersport "Black Edition". I'm guessing we will see it announced in the next 6 months, but thats all speculation only part. I haven't been told anything suggesting it at all. It's pretty clear though with all of the sport variations on the XK that they realize the need for this market segment. And with Alpina B7, S63 and S65, S8, and others, they need to fill that void with a more aggressive XJ sedan choice.
#60
Not sure on that. I didn't inquire, but my guess is the SWB won't accommodate it. They really seem to want to differentiate the SWB and LWB. As an example, there was talk at jag of only making the Supersport available in SWB, which is crazy to me. Guess its another thing that makes the Americans different from Europeans...we want to drive our massive cars, and they get driven in them.