03 Jaguar S Type R engine issues
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03 Jaguar S Type R engine issues
I purchased the car several months ago from a man who had shot a rod through the engine on it. I purchased it and brought it back down to my office. I was able to locate a used engine 4 hours away and rushed over to pick it up. After working on the car for 2 weeks straight (the new engine was bare so there was a lot of tedious swap overs that had to take place) I crank the car up and the new engine locks up. I am in the process of taking the valve covers off to check the chain guide. So far I can only see the top, but everything looks okay so far. The transmission is good on the car and so is the body and interior. So, I'm curious if anybody has had any issues with these cars. When I first turned the car on after swapping the engine and doing several oil flushes, I heard a loud clank and immediately turned the car off. I turned the car on again and it has pretty much just locked up.
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Welcome Champion. Have a silly question...you mentioned you purchased a bare block. This means you didn't see/hear it running? If you correctly mated the engine to the trans., etc. all should have been well. The 03 STR has the venerable updated guides. Normally I'm an optimistic and charasmatic person, in regards to your motor swap issue...I'm not feeling "that way" today. You'll be able to fill in the rest. Ortherwise, call the seller of the motor and re-ask for the condition of the motor. Prepare your speech to try to have your money refunded. Hopeing I'm wrong, best of luck.
Last edited by bfsgross; 11-29-2012 at 03:09 PM.
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The "new" engine was purchased from a resale yard. It was not purchased from an individual. They have guaranteed they will buy the motor back. I just hate the idea of ripping the motor out again and driving from Atlanta to NC to return it. I can confidently say, the motor was installed properly. It wasn't done in my backyard. I have a friend that owns a repair shop specializing in BMWs. He has worked on Jaguars but not as often as some of you have which is why I am looking for advice from experience here. After working on the thing for 2 weeks, I would hope that everything was installed perfectly!
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Shouldn't have made the loud clunking/clanking sound. When you first tried to fire it up did the engagement of starter motor sound normal? Did the motor turn a few times then started clanking or was the sound immediately evident (as soon as starter engaged)? Continue looking over your work. I understand your dismay of unassemblying all, perhaps unbolt block from trans. and see if crank turns without clanking, or remove and check spark plugs for damage from valves and turn crank with spark plugs removed. Be sure to disable fuel pump.
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I don't have any answers as this is (luckily) very rare!
Did you turn the used motor over by hand before installing? I like to see at least a compression test and if possible a leak down test before install. As you said it's a LOT of work to swap a modern engine out so I want to be sure of what I am putting in!
Anytime I install a used motor or transmission. I always drop the pan and take a look. It's very easy and the cost of the gasket is low. Many new units have reusable O-ring type seals too.
If you can report back on what is locked up it might help the rest of us STR guys.
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Did you turn the used motor over by hand before installing? I like to see at least a compression test and if possible a leak down test before install. As you said it's a LOT of work to swap a modern engine out so I want to be sure of what I am putting in!
Anytime I install a used motor or transmission. I always drop the pan and take a look. It's very easy and the cost of the gasket is low. Many new units have reusable O-ring type seals too.
If you can report back on what is locked up it might help the rest of us STR guys.
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you may try rotating the motor BACKWARDS several degrees by hand (large breaker-bar) and see of you have something in there causing interference.
I'm not a "Jaguar-Tech".... but standard, basic trouble-shooting applies: if you remove everything OUTSIDE the motor and it still doesn't turn.... then you're gonna have to go INSIDE.
sorry fro your frustration.
I'm not a "Jaguar-Tech".... but standard, basic trouble-shooting applies: if you remove everything OUTSIDE the motor and it still doesn't turn.... then you're gonna have to go INSIDE.
sorry fro your frustration.
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Block should have not been bare
Shouldn't have made the loud clunking/clanking sound. When you first tried to fire it up did the engagement of starter motor sound normal? Did the motor turn a few times then started clanking or was the sound immediately evident (as soon as starter engaged)? Continue looking over your work. I understand your dismay of unassemblying all, perhaps unbolt block from trans. and see if crank turns without clanking, or remove and check spark plugs for damage from valves and turn crank with spark plugs removed. Be sure to disable fuel pump.
Last edited by bfsgross; 11-28-2012 at 02:30 PM.
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That's the plan. I really hate this happened because I was very excited about this car. Now I seem to have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Oh well. Back to Audi I go . I listed it in the classifieds in hopes that maybe one of the more experienced Jag owners will be interested. Thanks for all the help!
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https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/p...%244500-85855/
I'm also considering parting it out or I would take $4000 how it sits
I'm also considering parting it out or I would take $4000 how it sits
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Well I'm sure that would be the case if one had two straight days. But between the fact we also had a company to run and our friend (who had the shop that we took the car to so we could use a lift) had other cars to work on, it did take that long. Obviously it was stretched out a bit and not 24/7 a day for two weeks straight.
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RE: Engine issue
So sorry for all the headaches your having, if you return that engine and get a full refund take a look at Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market, sort of an online data base for used car parts / salvage yards that may have a good running engine. I do not work for them etc. but have found many good used parts and pieces through the years. Hope this helps and you get her back on the road!
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