'03 STR -- Big Problem...
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Jason, you may very well be right. I don't know if there are any differences between buying private or from a dealer. From the sonsumer side, no, but I have no idea what agreements these warranty companies may have with the dealer. Maybe it could work that way, I am just not knowledgeable enough about the warranty companies and how they issue policies to private consumers versus those purchasing from a dealer or car lot. Worth checking into, though.
JTO - Please don't cry. I know you don't feel important now, seeing as you can't afford Greg the super attorney, but cheer up. I have never heard a good attorney tell anyone how much they cost per hour. On the other hand, I have seen several $500/hour lawyers get disbarred for malpractice. And trust me, its not like being a lawyer is like being a doctor or jag mechanic. A trained monkey could practice law. It takes actual intelligence to do what you do. More importantly, it takes a certain level of character and benevolence to offer that expertise for free on forums like this, especially without feeling the need to proclaim your importance to the world. Besides, I don't think Greg reads gooder, either.
Greg - there are many reasons people hate lawyers. It usually starts with lawyers like you who think they are better than everyone else. Your law degree and your billable rate don't make you superior to anyone. Get over yourself.
JTO - Please don't cry. I know you don't feel important now, seeing as you can't afford Greg the super attorney, but cheer up. I have never heard a good attorney tell anyone how much they cost per hour. On the other hand, I have seen several $500/hour lawyers get disbarred for malpractice. And trust me, its not like being a lawyer is like being a doctor or jag mechanic. A trained monkey could practice law. It takes actual intelligence to do what you do. More importantly, it takes a certain level of character and benevolence to offer that expertise for free on forums like this, especially without feeling the need to proclaim your importance to the world. Besides, I don't think Greg reads gooder, either.
Greg - there are many reasons people hate lawyers. It usually starts with lawyers like you who think they are better than everyone else. Your law degree and your billable rate don't make you superior to anyone. Get over yourself.
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Brotherin,
You have me mistakin for something else,
I attempted humor, never acted as if I was any sort better than any other person EVER, here on this forum or anywhere else. Its alright, forums are a funny place, some people can see humor and some are inept at being able to see it.
And A Monkey? That hurt me in my special place.. how could you.
And People hate certain types of lawyers. Big Corporations who take advantage of working class people hate me. When they dont pay Agreed health care, or take care of over time that was prommissed or just generally take advantage of the average worker who put thier trust in their company.
So I am not hated by many. But I can see why some attorneys are not liked. But honestly what I read in your post was...
Bla BLa blah blah I hate greg.
Thanks for the encouragement.
You have me mistakin for something else,
I attempted humor, never acted as if I was any sort better than any other person EVER, here on this forum or anywhere else. Its alright, forums are a funny place, some people can see humor and some are inept at being able to see it.
And A Monkey? That hurt me in my special place.. how could you.
And People hate certain types of lawyers. Big Corporations who take advantage of working class people hate me. When they dont pay Agreed health care, or take care of over time that was prommissed or just generally take advantage of the average worker who put thier trust in their company.
So I am not hated by many. But I can see why some attorneys are not liked. But honestly what I read in your post was...
Bla BLa blah blah I hate greg.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Jason, you may very well be right. I don't know if there are any differences between buying private or from a dealer. From the sonsumer side, no, but I have no idea what agreements these warranty companies may have with the dealer. Maybe it could work that way, I am just not knowledgeable enough about the warranty companies and how they issue policies to private consumers versus those purchasing from a dealer or car lot. Worth checking into, though.
JTO - Please don't cry. I know you don't feel important now, seeing as you can't afford Greg the super attorney, but cheer up. I have never heard a good attorney tell anyone how much they cost per hour. On the other hand, I have seen several $500/hour lawyers get disbarred for malpractice. And trust me, its not like being a lawyer is like being a doctor or jag mechanic. A trained monkey could practice law. It takes actual intelligence to do what you do. More importantly, it takes a certain level of character and benevolence to offer that expertise for free on forums like this, especially without feeling the need to proclaim your importance to the world. Besides, I don't think Greg reads gooder, either.
Greg - there are many reasons people hate lawyers. It usually starts with lawyers like you who think they are better than everyone else. Your law degree and your billable rate don't make you superior to anyone. Get over yourself.
JTO - Please don't cry. I know you don't feel important now, seeing as you can't afford Greg the super attorney, but cheer up. I have never heard a good attorney tell anyone how much they cost per hour. On the other hand, I have seen several $500/hour lawyers get disbarred for malpractice. And trust me, its not like being a lawyer is like being a doctor or jag mechanic. A trained monkey could practice law. It takes actual intelligence to do what you do. More importantly, it takes a certain level of character and benevolence to offer that expertise for free on forums like this, especially without feeling the need to proclaim your importance to the world. Besides, I don't think Greg reads gooder, either.
Greg - there are many reasons people hate lawyers. It usually starts with lawyers like you who think they are better than everyone else. Your law degree and your billable rate don't make you superior to anyone. Get over yourself.
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This is actually getting funny. People sure are easily frazzled. I made a joke.
I am begging the Moderators cut me off, Delete my account, take me out of the forum delete my account name do what ya gotta do! I even PM'd one of them asking how to delete my account and never got a response??
I think its becuase they need every last member seeing as the current members push away people who have something to say and are like literal prunes.
I appearently cant help myself, and keep on checking back this forum to see what other nonsense has been written next. I acutally laugh and read this thinking, wow, if you just knew me you might see how silly it is you took me literal on this.
I am begging the Moderators cut me off, Delete my account, take me out of the forum delete my account name do what ya gotta do! I even PM'd one of them asking how to delete my account and never got a response??
I think its becuase they need every last member seeing as the current members push away people who have something to say and are like literal prunes.
I appearently cant help myself, and keep on checking back this forum to see what other nonsense has been written next. I acutally laugh and read this thinking, wow, if you just knew me you might see how silly it is you took me literal on this.
Excuse my difficulty with reading comprehension, councelor. I read your following statement and took it literally:
"That would mean I introduced my self to you, handed you a card with my law practices name on it when I would have falsely aquired that license"
I misread that to mean that you were presenting a sarcastic retort to the supposition that you were, in fact, an attorney. Unless, of course, you wrote it wrong.
Now that you have made it abundantly clear to this wrench twister that you are an attorney, I would never presume to make light of your credentials or your ethics.
All the more reason why I'm glad I refused to participate in the unethical and desultory discussion of insurance claims. This thread was about broken engines, and I stand by every technical and subjective contribution I have made, rooted as they are in my professional (and credentialed) experience. Sorry I don't reads too good.
I started an associated thread to this ENGINE discussion last night, with some preliminary information about engine interchangeability. Anyone who has factual information to that thread is requested to contribute.
"That would mean I introduced my self to you, handed you a card with my law practices name on it when I would have falsely aquired that license"
I misread that to mean that you were presenting a sarcastic retort to the supposition that you were, in fact, an attorney. Unless, of course, you wrote it wrong.
Now that you have made it abundantly clear to this wrench twister that you are an attorney, I would never presume to make light of your credentials or your ethics.
All the more reason why I'm glad I refused to participate in the unethical and desultory discussion of insurance claims. This thread was about broken engines, and I stand by every technical and subjective contribution I have made, rooted as they are in my professional (and credentialed) experience. Sorry I don't reads too good.
I started an associated thread to this ENGINE discussion last night, with some preliminary information about engine interchangeability. Anyone who has factual information to that thread is requested to contribute.
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Greg, why don't you stick around for awhile. There is certainly no need to run off on my account. Who knows, maybe my ineptitude will improve to mildly imcompetent after a while and this literal prune may learn to understand, if not fully appreciate, your humor. I make no promises, but I'll gladly give it a try. Generally the people on this forum are fantastic - extremely helpful, courteous, and friendly. Occasionally we disagree, which is what I did with your initial post, although as I've already admitted, maybe not in the best tone. So long as the disagreements don't get personal, they are good and productive, and sometimes entertaining.
How about we try this; let's call a truce and start over. If I've got you all wrong, then maybe you can prove it to me without the two of us going back and forth with this nonsense. I hate for you to miss out on the benefits of this forum because of me. Besides, if you are doing labor and employment work on the plaintiff or union side, then your daily life has to be miserable and depressing. Eventually, this forum may be your only reason for getting out of bed every morning.
Yes, the last two sentences are my attempt at humor. I may be worse at it than even you. That's a joke, too, by the way.
How about we try this; let's call a truce and start over. If I've got you all wrong, then maybe you can prove it to me without the two of us going back and forth with this nonsense. I hate for you to miss out on the benefits of this forum because of me. Besides, if you are doing labor and employment work on the plaintiff or union side, then your daily life has to be miserable and depressing. Eventually, this forum may be your only reason for getting out of bed every morning.
Yes, the last two sentences are my attempt at humor. I may be worse at it than even you. That's a joke, too, by the way.
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It takes two to quarrel, but only one to end it.
- Spanish Proverb
Let's try to get along guys, there are a lot more important things going on to be fighting about such inane things. Agree to disagree and move on. Greg I don't have anything against lawyers, my brother is one and they're mostly pretty good guys. They just take a lot of sh*t because most people are on the wrong side of the room when they go to court. Don't leave the forum over this, without the occasional disagreement things get boring, but you have to know how to take criticism with a grain of salt.
- Spanish Proverb
Let's try to get along guys, there are a lot more important things going on to be fighting about such inane things. Agree to disagree and move on. Greg I don't have anything against lawyers, my brother is one and they're mostly pretty good guys. They just take a lot of sh*t because most people are on the wrong side of the room when they go to court. Don't leave the forum over this, without the occasional disagreement things get boring, but you have to know how to take criticism with a grain of salt.
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Actually I found humor in this whole thread... Two people get into it over some jokes about ethics.... And there is poor Frankie, still with a blown up car......
Hey Frankie, come back, how are you doing? I actually liked WhiteSTR's idea. If it just costs way too much to fix, and there is no doubt that the car needs an engine, I would do the "lump" thing. Turn it into a sort of hot rod. It would be real cool!
Hey Frankie, come back, how are you doing? I actually liked WhiteSTR's idea. If it just costs way too much to fix, and there is no doubt that the car needs an engine, I would do the "lump" thing. Turn it into a sort of hot rod. It would be real cool!
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Frankie where you at my man??? Anything new going on?
Greg/TX/Tech - this is getting a little out of hand at this point. Move it into general discussions or start a new Greg vs. TX vs. Tech thread. Everytime it seems as though one of you are going to squash this lovers quarell, you throw in a few provoking sentences and jabs.
PHD- there was no humor in the dump I took this morning, it was a composition of a 3 day wedding weekend I just had down on Cape Cod. Not nice.
Greg/TX/Tech - this is getting a little out of hand at this point. Move it into general discussions or start a new Greg vs. TX vs. Tech thread. Everytime it seems as though one of you are going to squash this lovers quarell, you throw in a few provoking sentences and jabs.
PHD- there was no humor in the dump I took this morning, it was a composition of a 3 day wedding weekend I just had down on Cape Cod. Not nice.
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Greg, it wasn't me you sent the PM to, but if you do, I can delete your profile if you request me to. I do hope you stick around though. (and not for the obvious opportunity for breaking out the lawyer jokes)
As often happens in forums, one person's wit/humor is mistaken for gospel, garbage, insult, slander, disdain, or banter. I have done it too many times to count on this board and my photography forums. Written communication is easily misunderstood, no matter how many smilies you throw at it.
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What I recommend to all new forumgoers if they ever ask, is to read, contribute lightly, learn the comings and goings, understand the personality of the mods/admins/techs (and thusly the forums themselves) and the characteristics of the more frequent posters. Then, dive in. You establish a reputation over time - be patient, people learn your writing habits, and then there is a level of respect established (or there should be) amongst all parties. From experience, it takes awhile to learn others.
Debate is a healthy tool, use it. When debate becomes flammable, personal, and unwarranted, noone is protected from the wrath of the admins.
See how the smilies lightened the mood?
As often happens in forums, one person's wit/humor is mistaken for gospel, garbage, insult, slander, disdain, or banter. I have done it too many times to count on this board and my photography forums. Written communication is easily misunderstood, no matter how many smilies you throw at it.
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What I recommend to all new forumgoers if they ever ask, is to read, contribute lightly, learn the comings and goings, understand the personality of the mods/admins/techs (and thusly the forums themselves) and the characteristics of the more frequent posters. Then, dive in. You establish a reputation over time - be patient, people learn your writing habits, and then there is a level of respect established (or there should be) amongst all parties. From experience, it takes awhile to learn others.
Debate is a healthy tool, use it. When debate becomes flammable, personal, and unwarranted, noone is protected from the wrath of the admins.
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See how the smilies lightened the mood?
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Ok, ok..
Just dont let 12volt take another dump on this thread...
Just know,
If I say to shoot, blow up or kill a car, that is an expression to what an initial or emotional thought would be to do(prior to any thought or brain work).....
I think frankie's thread was hijacked pretty bad.
sorry all. hope some got some entertainment out of this. I did, it gave me something to look foward to. Summers are hard in my business, slow, no one has money and no one can pay or needs terms.
Anyway,
truce!
Just dont let 12volt take another dump on this thread...
Just know,
If I say to shoot, blow up or kill a car, that is an expression to what an initial or emotional thought would be to do(prior to any thought or brain work).....
I think frankie's thread was hijacked pretty bad.
sorry all. hope some got some entertainment out of this. I did, it gave me something to look foward to. Summers are hard in my business, slow, no one has money and no one can pay or needs terms.
Anyway,
truce!
Greg, why don't you stick around for awhile. There is certainly no need to run off on my account. Who knows, maybe my ineptitude will improve to mildly imcompetent after a while and this literal prune may learn to understand, if not fully appreciate, your humor. I make no promises, but I'll gladly give it a try. Generally the people on this forum are fantastic - extremely helpful, courteous, and friendly. Occasionally we disagree, which is what I did with your initial post, although as I've already admitted, maybe not in the best tone. So long as the disagreements don't get personal, they are good and productive, and sometimes entertaining.
How about we try this; let's call a truce and start over. If I've got you all wrong, then maybe you can prove it to me without the two of us going back and forth with this nonsense. I hate for you to miss out on the benefits of this forum because of me. Besides, if you are doing labor and employment work on the plaintiff or union side, then your daily life has to be miserable and depressing. Eventually, this forum may be your only reason for getting out of bed every morning.
Yes, the last two sentences are my attempt at humor. I may be worse at it than even you. That's a joke, too, by the way.
How about we try this; let's call a truce and start over. If I've got you all wrong, then maybe you can prove it to me without the two of us going back and forth with this nonsense. I hate for you to miss out on the benefits of this forum because of me. Besides, if you are doing labor and employment work on the plaintiff or union side, then your daily life has to be miserable and depressing. Eventually, this forum may be your only reason for getting out of bed every morning.
Yes, the last two sentences are my attempt at humor. I may be worse at it than even you. That's a joke, too, by the way.
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im sry ill keep my dumps to myself
Well seems like Jagtech has a viable solution, maybe worth looking into it.
EDIT: found this on EBAY, however the pic is not of an "R" motor, but the auction claims it is. I have asked for a verification of which motor it is.............Also it has a best offer/buy it now for 1900 ish.......sometimes best offers will take 25-30% lower then they are asking for it. Ill post if i get an answer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Engin...Q5fAccessories
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Well seems like Jagtech has a viable solution, maybe worth looking into it.
EDIT: found this on EBAY, however the pic is not of an "R" motor, but the auction claims it is. I have asked for a verification of which motor it is.............Also it has a best offer/buy it now for 1900 ish.......sometimes best offers will take 25-30% lower then they are asking for it. Ill post if i get an answer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Engin...Q5fAccessories
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Jason, re your ebay link:
If I was looking for an engine for Frankie's car, I would get the VIN from the ebay seller and run a Carfax to verify the mileage when the salvage title was issued. Then I would pay the Buy it Now price and make sure that deal didn't get away.
I didn't see dates for when the auction started or how long it will last. When I have seen similar values in the past, they were usually gone before I could pull the trigger. Now I don't wait for bargain prices to get any lower, and the engine you found is a bargain if it checks out.
If I was looking for an engine for Frankie's car, I would get the VIN from the ebay seller and run a Carfax to verify the mileage when the salvage title was issued. Then I would pay the Buy it Now price and make sure that deal didn't get away.
I didn't see dates for when the auction started or how long it will last. When I have seen similar values in the past, they were usually gone before I could pull the trigger. Now I don't wait for bargain prices to get any lower, and the engine you found is a bargain if it checks out.
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Well, Frankie wrote in for an answer, and there it is.
Verify the mileage and at least enough of a warranty that the engine is not DOA, and get busy. That's $1900, allow a hefty $500 to ship (probably less), find a competent installer who's not greedy, and the car is back on the road as closer to $4000 than $5K.
Only way to go. Nice work, Jason.
Verify the mileage and at least enough of a warranty that the engine is not DOA, and get busy. That's $1900, allow a hefty $500 to ship (probably less), find a competent installer who's not greedy, and the car is back on the road as closer to $4000 than $5K.
Only way to go. Nice work, Jason.