04 STR Sun Roof / Moon Roof problems with Pictures HOW TO
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04 STR Sun Roof / Moon Roof problems with Pictures HOW TO
While driving my STR on a beautiful spring Texas day, I decided to open the Sun Roof. It opened fine! When it was time to close it, it cycles shut then went to the open in the pack position. While it was doing this I heard all sorts of crunching sounds. When it stopped in the position where the panel was all the way up in the back, it would no longer move.
I immediately ran to my lap top and searched all references in this forum to stuck sun roofs on S-types. Lots of good information about resetting the sun roof, but nothing helped to get it closed.
This morning I pulled out the glass panel and investigated what might have gone wrong.
Turns out that the plastic slides in the runners have their slide tabs broken off. It looks to me like cheap crappy plastic parts, that have gone brittle and broken!
I was able to get the slides into the closed postion, and bolt the glass panel back in place.
The big question is. Are new plastic pieces available to repair assembly?
I read in the forum that you can only purchase a complete new assembly or purchase a used one. True? I don't want another used one because it will probably have the same problem in the not so distant future.
Ideas?
I immediately ran to my lap top and searched all references in this forum to stuck sun roofs on S-types. Lots of good information about resetting the sun roof, but nothing helped to get it closed.
This morning I pulled out the glass panel and investigated what might have gone wrong.
Turns out that the plastic slides in the runners have their slide tabs broken off. It looks to me like cheap crappy plastic parts, that have gone brittle and broken!
I was able to get the slides into the closed postion, and bolt the glass panel back in place.
The big question is. Are new plastic pieces available to repair assembly?
I read in the forum that you can only purchase a complete new assembly or purchase a used one. True? I don't want another used one because it will probably have the same problem in the not so distant future.
Ideas?
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Yet another reason not to regularly open the moonroof. The harmonic distortion in the cabin at speeds over 35 mph has always been extremely annoying in our 2005 S-Type whenever the moonroof is open, so we just leave it closed. I open it to clean the tracks and check for proper rainwater drainage, but that's about it....
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I wonder if the Ford side could provide parts?
Just had another thought? When I was in the SHO world Ford stopped suppling any Moonroof parts. We found out that Webasto was the original supplier and also supply Moonroofs to many different manufactures. Someone contacted Webasto and we were able to get the lifter arms (Which I think is what broke on you?).
Might be worth a call?
http://www.webasto.us/home/en/html/homepage.html
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Just had another thought? When I was in the SHO world Ford stopped suppling any Moonroof parts. We found out that Webasto was the original supplier and also supply Moonroofs to many different manufactures. Someone contacted Webasto and we were able to get the lifter arms (Which I think is what broke on you?).
Might be worth a call?
http://www.webasto.us/home/en/html/homepage.html
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Last edited by tbird6; 04-22-2013 at 04:09 PM.
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I wonder if the Ford side could provide parts?
Just had another thought? When I was in the SHO world Ford stopped suppling any Moonroof parts. We found out that Webasto was the original supplier and also supply Moonroofs to many different manufactures. Someone contacted Webasto and we were able to get the lifter arms (Which I think is what broke on you?).
Might be worth a call?
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Webasto - Homepage
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Just had another thought? When I was in the SHO world Ford stopped suppling any Moonroof parts. We found out that Webasto was the original supplier and also supply Moonroofs to many different manufactures. Someone contacted Webasto and we were able to get the lifter arms (Which I think is what broke on you?).
Might be worth a call?
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Webasto - Homepage
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Check this service part listing below - it's worth a try:
http://www.techwebasto.com/sunroof_m...04300-5300.pdf
Last edited by abonano; 04-24-2013 at 07:58 PM.
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That's a BIG +1 to tbird6 - same deal here with my 2000 S Type - I experienced a broken sight shield and I was told "no parts are available" and the entire assembly will need to be replaced - $1,500+ I ordered a replacement sight shield from Webasto via their online order form for $10.69 + shipping. It took 2 weeks to get it but it was an exact fit!
Check this service part listing below - it's worth a try:
http://www.techwebasto.com/sunroof_m...04300-5300.pdf
Check this service part listing below - it's worth a try:
http://www.techwebasto.com/sunroof_m...04300-5300.pdf
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I searched the Webasto web site for an online order form, or a way to order spare parts from them and couldn't find anything.
I wrote them on their contact form and they wrote back to contact one of their authorized dealers/installers.
Can you post the link to the way you ordered your parts?
Thanks.
I wrote them on their contact form and they wrote back to contact one of their authorized dealers/installers.
Can you post the link to the way you ordered your parts?
Thanks.
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I performed extensive google research last year (I put the ford part number in for the sight shield) and found out about Webasto - dug further in Webasto with the part number - minus the Ford prefix and found that this is the sunroof model that the S Type/Lincoln LS has - even when the replacement part arrived - the actual part number was the same - minus the usual Ford "prefix" and like I said before - the part was an exact fit.
I guess Ford cannot "stock" the parts under the Ford label since the sunroof assembly is actually not a Ford part... Such as "Hurst" parts installed on GM vehicles...but then again, why stock parts when you can force an unsuspecting owner to dump $ in replacing the whole assembly... not us!
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I searched the Webasto web site for an online order form, or a way to order spare parts from them and couldn't find anything.
I wrote them on their contact form and they wrote back to contact one of their authorized dealers/installers.
Can you post the link to the way you ordered your parts?
Thanks.
I wrote them on their contact form and they wrote back to contact one of their authorized dealers/installers.
Can you post the link to the way you ordered your parts?
Thanks.
You have to order the parts through the "Sunroof Doctor" - They are an authorized Webasto service parts provider:
http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/
Use their Fax Order form - Here:
http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/orderform.htm
Be sure to list Lincoln LS as the vehicle type and Webasto as the sunroof brand - if they give you issues - just tell them to send you the part you listed.
List the part number and description as listed from the PDF - leave the price blank - they will fill that in.
Be patient - it will take a few weeks to get the part(s) but you'll save $$$ in the end...
Hope this helps....
Last edited by abonano; 04-26-2013 at 11:34 AM.
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I ordered a track repair kit. They show exactly all the parts I need! About $130 with shipping. What you need is listed under the Lincoln LS sunroof.
Once I receive the kit, I am dreading the work it will take to remove the head-liner, remove the sunroof assembly and rebuilt the unit.
Another project for another day...
Once I receive the kit, I am dreading the work it will take to remove the head-liner, remove the sunroof assembly and rebuilt the unit.
Another project for another day...
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That's a BIG +1 to tbird6 - same deal here with my 2000 S Type - I experienced a broken sight shield and I was told "no parts are available" and the entire assembly will need to be replaced - $1,500+ I ordered a replacement sight shield from Webasto via their online order form for $10.69 + shipping. It took 2 weeks to get it but it was an exact fit!
Check this service part listing below - it's worth a try:
http://www.techwebasto.com/sunroof_m...04300-5300.pdf
Check this service part listing below - it's worth a try:
http://www.techwebasto.com/sunroof_m...04300-5300.pdf
have the same problem with my (ex-US) 2005 S-Type. Tried to get parts via Webasto in Germany and from the Sunroof Doctor, but both without any result!
Can now buy a complete sunroof from a pre-2002 car, but the partslist shows a different number for the early S-Types.
Do you know/think it will fit, or can I exchange the slider components?
Appreciate your advise in this.