2000 S-Type Won't Start After Sitting In Storage
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2000 S-Type Won't Start After Sitting In Storage
My 2000 S-Type 3.0 has been sitting in storage (indoors, climate controlled) for about 1 year. I just put in a new battery (the previous battery died about 1 year ago). It was low on gas so I add about 5 gallons of fresh gas. The starter is cranking but will not start. Any ideas on how to get it started?
Last edited by snooktarpon; 02-05-2019 at 05:30 AM.
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My 2000 S-Type 3.0 has been sitting in storage (indoors, climate controlled) for about 1 year. I just put in a new battery (the previous battery died about 1 year ago). It was low on gas so I add about 5 gallons of fresh gas. The starter is cranking but will not start. Any ideas on how to get it started?
2) Observe the PATS indicator light on the dash, at the base of the windshield. This is for the security system, which may have inhibited pump operation as a precaution. Here is how it's supposed to behave if all is good:
First, lock the car with the key fob. Press the lock button a second time to set the alarm system. The horn should chirp once. Watch the little red light. It should flash once every 3 seconds or so (not sure of the exact time) to show the system is armed. Now press the key fob unlock button twice to unlock all the doors. The red light should go out. Now hop in the driver's seat and turn the key to RUN (Not start yet). The red light should come on solid ONCE for about 3 seconds and then go out. If it flashes anything after that, you've got a stored fault.
3) Check the fuel pressure with a mechanical test gauge. There is a test port on the injector fuel rail. It's easy to access, IIRC. I forget the exact value you should see, maybe around 45psi? You don't even have to crank the engine for this. Just turn the key to RUN and the pump should operate briefly to precharge the lines.
4) If the fuel pressure is low, listen for the sound of the fuel pump. You may have to remove the bottom cushion of the rear seat to hear it.
The most likely scenario is your fuel pump has died. There are many cases in this forum of pumps giving up the ghost after long periods of inactivity. But run through the quick checks given above before convincing yourself the pump itself is the culprit. Let us know what you find and we can help with further steps to isolate the issue.
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S-Type Owner (05-26-2019)
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Karl, thanks for the detailed response. The battery is fully charged and still nothing. The PATS indicator light is working just as you described so no faults. So I'm going to get a fuel pressure tester. I found a schrader valve and attached a photo below. Is this the fuel pressure valve?
In addition, I removed the bottom seat and found the fuel pump on the passenger side. There is sticker that states Ford XW4U-9H307-AB. Googling it didn't really list any replacements. Then found some affordable pumps at Autozone: https://www.autozone.com/external-en...r&model=jaguar
So will these work? I'm not sure what the difference is between the difference pumps listed.
Since this is just a Ford part, are there other affordable (and reputable) places to order a replacement pump?
In addition, I removed the bottom seat and found the fuel pump on the passenger side. There is sticker that states Ford XW4U-9H307-AB. Googling it didn't really list any replacements. Then found some affordable pumps at Autozone: https://www.autozone.com/external-en...r&model=jaguar
So will these work? I'm not sure what the difference is between the difference pumps listed.
Since this is just a Ford part, are there other affordable (and reputable) places to order a replacement pump?
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More than likely the fuel pump is seized. Follow the test procedure outlined in the Workshop Manual. If you don't have the Workshop Manual, you can download it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp6343385h...e_FSM.pdf?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp6343385h...e_FSM.pdf?dl=0
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After doing some research, it looks like I just kit a kit on eBay which has the motor, filter, and O-rings. Here is one auction: https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Motor-Wo...0ekE:rk:9:pf:0
Is this a good solution versus replacing the whole pump?
Is this a good solution versus replacing the whole pump?
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Given a chance to spend your time and money, I'd suggest a name brand such as Carter or Delphi:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...fuel+pump,6256
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S-Type Owner (05-27-2019)
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I did see that video. I agree with kr98664 about ordering cheap Chinese parts from eBay. I didn't want to go that route. So I'm going to get the Delphi FE0420 kit (motor, O-ring, strainer) on Amazon for $82. Thanks everyone. I'll post an update when I'm installed the kit.
I forgot to mention: I didn't bother measuring the fuel pressure because I had no pressure in the lines. When I opened the Schrader valve, nothing happened except a little fuel just barely leaked out.
I forgot to mention: I didn't bother measuring the fuel pressure because I had no pressure in the lines. When I opened the Schrader valve, nothing happened except a little fuel just barely leaked out.
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Update: Life got in the way so I haven't worked on my Jag until this week. I had ordered the Delphi FE0420 fuel pump kit back in February. On Sunday, I pumped out all the old gas and I finally removed the fuel pump. There was a small flat rectangular filter at the bottom of the pump assembly that was deteriorated and all the pieces were at the bottom of the tank. So I spent 10 minutes cleaning out the bottom the tank.
When I removed the pump, I noticed an external filter #XR817558 which I wasn't expecting. The filter exterior looked corroded as well as the rubber hose attached to it on one side. So I ordered a replacement filter along with the green gasket. I replaced the rubber hose at Autozone. I then installed the Delphi kit (pump motor and 2 small filters). I inserted the fuel filter back in the tank and filled the tank with fresh gas. When I turned the key (before cranking), I could hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds. When I cranked it, it wouldn't start. I tried off and on for about 10-15 mins and no luck.
The next day, I went to Harbor Freight and purchased their fuel pressure gauge for $20. Before testing the fuel pressure, I tried to start it one more time and it started right up! Woo hoo!!!
Below are the before and after pics of my fuel pump:
When I removed the pump, I noticed an external filter #XR817558 which I wasn't expecting. The filter exterior looked corroded as well as the rubber hose attached to it on one side. So I ordered a replacement filter along with the green gasket. I replaced the rubber hose at Autozone. I then installed the Delphi kit (pump motor and 2 small filters). I inserted the fuel filter back in the tank and filled the tank with fresh gas. When I turned the key (before cranking), I could hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds. When I cranked it, it wouldn't start. I tried off and on for about 10-15 mins and no luck.
The next day, I went to Harbor Freight and purchased their fuel pressure gauge for $20. Before testing the fuel pressure, I tried to start it one more time and it started right up! Woo hoo!!!
Below are the before and after pics of my fuel pump:
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