Air Conditioning Issues - Where to Start?
#101
Update:
Picked up the S-Type about 45 minutes ago. The new compressor seems to have done the trick. Plenty of arctic air once again at all rpms on a consistent basis. The receiver/dryer was not swapped out because it is integrated into the condensor (which was replaced last August as part of the accident repairs). That saved me some money. Final cost was $962. They took great care of the car and even sent a driver out to pick me up when the car was ready. Temperatures this weekend are headed for the low-to-mid 90s so the S-Type's renovated A/C system should be tested thoroughly. Only problem now is my wife has been driving her Lexus SUV full-time for the past couple of weeks and she's suddenly reluctant to get back in the Jaguar for most of her driving requirements. We'll see....
Picked up the S-Type about 45 minutes ago. The new compressor seems to have done the trick. Plenty of arctic air once again at all rpms on a consistent basis. The receiver/dryer was not swapped out because it is integrated into the condensor (which was replaced last August as part of the accident repairs). That saved me some money. Final cost was $962. They took great care of the car and even sent a driver out to pick me up when the car was ready. Temperatures this weekend are headed for the low-to-mid 90s so the S-Type's renovated A/C system should be tested thoroughly. Only problem now is my wife has been driving her Lexus SUV full-time for the past couple of weeks and she's suddenly reluctant to get back in the Jaguar for most of her driving requirements. We'll see....
#102
Update:
Picked up the S-Type about 45 minutes ago. The new compressor seems to have done the trick. Plenty of arctic air once again at all rpms on a consistent basis. The receiver/dryer was not swapped out because it is integrated into the condensor (which was replaced last August as part of the accident repairs). That saved me some money. Final cost was $962. They took great care of the car and even sent a driver out to pick me up when the car was ready. Temperatures this weekend are headed for the low-to-mid 90s so the S-Type's renovated A/C system should be tested thoroughly. Only problem now is my wife has been driving her Lexus SUV full-time for the past couple of weeks and she's suddenly reluctant to get back in the Jaguar for most of her driving requirements. We'll see....
Picked up the S-Type about 45 minutes ago. The new compressor seems to have done the trick. Plenty of arctic air once again at all rpms on a consistent basis. The receiver/dryer was not swapped out because it is integrated into the condensor (which was replaced last August as part of the accident repairs). That saved me some money. Final cost was $962. They took great care of the car and even sent a driver out to pick me up when the car was ready. Temperatures this weekend are headed for the low-to-mid 90s so the S-Type's renovated A/C system should be tested thoroughly. Only problem now is my wife has been driving her Lexus SUV full-time for the past couple of weeks and she's suddenly reluctant to get back in the Jaguar for most of her driving requirements. We'll see....
Did you bring them the belly pan? Or are you going to bolt that on?
Take the wife out to dinner or something in the S this weekend, blast the A/C. Maybe it'll restore her faith in the car.
George
#103
I removed the belly pan myself, and then put it back on upon bringing the car home after the job was done. Too many different kinds of bolts, nuts, and screws holding that thing on and I don't trust just anybody to install it properly or keep from losing some of the hardware. Maybe that's not fair to the better techs, but you never know. Techs can get in a hurry and not install the belly pan using every single piece of hardware....
Before putting the belly pan back on, I listened to the new compressor with my stethoscope. Almost silent compared to the original one yesterday. That's good news....
Another interesting note - while the tech was in the process of installing the new compressor, he noticed that one of the three 18mm bolts that hold the steering rack in place had backed off a bit (the one closest to the compressor). It was loose enough for him to be able to turn it by hand. So he cranked it down and checked the other two to ensure that they were still tight (they were). No extra charge for this, and a nice way to build goodwill. So the next time you guys have your belly pan off for an oil change, check those steering rack bolts....
Before putting the belly pan back on, I listened to the new compressor with my stethoscope. Almost silent compared to the original one yesterday. That's good news....
Another interesting note - while the tech was in the process of installing the new compressor, he noticed that one of the three 18mm bolts that hold the steering rack in place had backed off a bit (the one closest to the compressor). It was loose enough for him to be able to turn it by hand. So he cranked it down and checked the other two to ensure that they were still tight (they were). No extra charge for this, and a nice way to build goodwill. So the next time you guys have your belly pan off for an oil change, check those steering rack bolts....
Last edited by Jon89; 06-04-2010 at 02:32 PM.
#104
A/C compressor and Evaporator costs
I think I have finally reached my limit on how much more money I am going to spend on a 2005 S type 4.2 with only 50K miles! I was just told it will cost me $4,300.00 to repair a shot A/C compressor and leaking Evaporator! I can somewhat justify the labor cost involved in tearing out the dash but I am mad as hell that a compressor should cost $1,000.00 and an evaporator $800.00. On line parts are 1/3 the cost but Jaguar will not let me buy my own parts.
Just 5 months earlier I spent $3,000 to replace a throttle body and a gas tank O ring.
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
Was also told that the rear shock absorbers are leaking and the cost for tha will be around $800. Give me a break Jaguar. This is rediculous for a car that only has 50,000 miles and I treat it like a baby.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
Just 5 months earlier I spent $3,000 to replace a throttle body and a gas tank O ring.
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
Was also told that the rear shock absorbers are leaking and the cost for tha will be around $800. Give me a break Jaguar. This is rediculous for a car that only has 50,000 miles and I treat it like a baby.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
#105
Once your car is out of warranty, you have many choices other than the dealership for service. Perhaps in Hawaii, your choices are not as varied as those of us who live on the mainland. But surely you have independent shops there. Find one that's reasonable and you'll cut your repair costs in half....
I completely understand your frustration. If I could not handle the vast majority of routine maintenance and service requirements myself, I would not have purchased our S-Type. It is said a number of times a day here on this forum that D-I-Y (along with a reasonably-priced indy shop for the issues that are beyond our skills) is the only way to approach these cars. So buyer beware, and best of luck to you in your efforts to find something more affordable to drive....
I completely understand your frustration. If I could not handle the vast majority of routine maintenance and service requirements myself, I would not have purchased our S-Type. It is said a number of times a day here on this forum that D-I-Y (along with a reasonably-priced indy shop for the issues that are beyond our skills) is the only way to approach these cars. So buyer beware, and best of luck to you in your efforts to find something more affordable to drive....
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I think I have finally reached my limit on how much more money I am going to spend on a 2005 S type 4.2 with only 50K miles! I was just told it will cost me $4,300.00 to repair a shot A/C compressor and leaking Evaporator! I can somewhat justify the labor cost involved in tearing out the dash but I am mad as hell that a compressor should cost $1,000.00 and an evaporator $800.00. On line parts are 1/3 the cost but Jaguar will not let me buy my own parts.
Just 5 months earlier I spent $3,000 to replace a throttle body and a gas tank O ring.
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
Was also told that the rear shock absorbers are leaking and the cost for tha will be around $800. Give me a break Jaguar. This is rediculous for a car that only has 50,000 miles and I treat it like a baby.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
Just 5 months earlier I spent $3,000 to replace a throttle body and a gas tank O ring.
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
Was also told that the rear shock absorbers are leaking and the cost for tha will be around $800. Give me a break Jaguar. This is rediculous for a car that only has 50,000 miles and I treat it like a baby.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
The Climate control module failure is from a DCCV failure, not a thermostat failure. Water will not / cannot enter the CCM.
We can walk you through any of these repairs.
Take care,
George
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#108
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
Umm, yours has less miles than mine and is a V8..But trade in on a 05 in the continental US is hovering more in the $10,000 range..So, it may be better for you to find a good independent shop and just keep it.
To be honest the things you listed are not that major to repair...Just major $$$ at the dealership you are using...Look around and you may end up with a better relationship with the Jag...
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#110
Those prices are outrageous, and you're being taken advantage of imo. I don't understand why you are taking your car to Jaguar if the car is no longer under warranty. I'm sure there are plenty of competent mechanics that can work for less than half of what the dealer wants plus you'll save a tremendous amount of money on parts. I had my throttle body removed, rebuilt and reinstalled for about $400, and it has a lifetime warranty to boot. The climate control module can also be rebuilt for less than $200!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAGUA...item20b0f7d8e2
Seems to me your frustration should be with your local dealer and not so much with the car. It is 6 years old now and almost any vehicle will have some issues.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAGUA...item20b0f7d8e2
Seems to me your frustration should be with your local dealer and not so much with the car. It is 6 years old now and almost any vehicle will have some issues.
I think I have finally reached my limit on how much more money I am going to spend on a 2005 S type 4.2 with only 50K miles! I was just told it will cost me $4,300.00 to repair a shot A/C compressor and leaking Evaporator! I can somewhat justify the labor cost involved in tearing out the dash but I am mad as hell that a compressor should cost $1,000.00 and an evaporator $800.00. On line parts are 1/3 the cost but Jaguar will not let me buy my own parts.
Just 5 months earlier I spent $3,000 to replace a throttle body and a gas tank O ring.
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
Was also told that the rear shock absorbers are leaking and the cost for tha will be around $800. Give me a break Jaguar. This is rediculous for a car that only has 50,000 miles and I treat it like a baby.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
Just 5 months earlier I spent $3,000 to replace a throttle body and a gas tank O ring.
1 year earlier, I spent $1,500 to replace the climate module which got fried when my thermostat failed and water backed up into the climate control module.
Was also told that the rear shock absorbers are leaking and the cost for tha will be around $800. Give me a break Jaguar. This is rediculous for a car that only has 50,000 miles and I treat it like a baby.
I can not recommend this car to anyone and will be selling it shortly. By the way, it's now worth about 13,000 to 16,000 and I originally paid $55,000!
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#112
similar a/c issues - trying to diagnose...
These prices are absurd. Find a good independent. Working on a Jaguar Isn't black magic... It's just a car like any other. I'd say DIY, but doesn't seem like you are too interested in that route.
The Climate control module failure is from a DCCV failure, not a thermostat failure. Water will not / cannot enter the CCM.
We can walk you through any of these repairs.
Take care,
George
The Climate control module failure is from a DCCV failure, not a thermostat failure. Water will not / cannot enter the CCM.
We can walk you through any of these repairs.
Take care,
George
the coolant level is fine (according to a gauge that came with a can of r134a. it seems to be the same from all vents which causes me to doubt the dccv. the problem seems to have gotten worse over the last few weeks. i'm inclined to identify the compressor as the likely culprit, but is there a good way to diagnose this problem?
also, if i decide to go the DIY route, where are the compressor and dccv located? are they difficult to get to and replace?
#113
i'm having similar problems with my 2003 4.2L s-type, but i'm not sure if the issue is with a failing compressor or bad dccv. my a/c blows hot air for about 10-12 minutes then kicks in ice cold regardless of rpm or road speed. however, this doesn't last long and eventually begins blowing hot air again - never returning to cold.
the coolant level is fine (according to a gauge that came with a can of r134a. it seems to be the same from all vents which causes me to doubt the dccv. the problem seems to have gotten worse over the last few weeks. i'm inclined to identify the compressor as the likely culprit, but is there a good way to diagnose this problem?
also, if i decide to go the DIY route, where are the compressor and dccv located? are they difficult to get to and replace?
the coolant level is fine (according to a gauge that came with a can of r134a. it seems to be the same from all vents which causes me to doubt the dccv. the problem seems to have gotten worse over the last few weeks. i'm inclined to identify the compressor as the likely culprit, but is there a good way to diagnose this problem?
also, if i decide to go the DIY route, where are the compressor and dccv located? are they difficult to get to and replace?
I bet the high side pressure is spiking, and its shutting down the system due to pressure, probably due to a refigerant overcharge.
Compressor and DCCV are easy. Search for a thread by 01Stype30 for the DCCV that led to a compressor failure.
Take care,
George
#114
Have a real set of gauges put on it and look.
I bet the high side pressure is spiking, and its shutting down the system due to pressure, probably due to a refigerant overcharge.
Compressor and DCCV are easy. Search for a thread by 01Stype30 for the DCCV that led to a compressor failure.
Take care,
George
I bet the high side pressure is spiking, and its shutting down the system due to pressure, probably due to a refigerant overcharge.
Compressor and DCCV are easy. Search for a thread by 01Stype30 for the DCCV that led to a compressor failure.
Take care,
George
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