Breather Hose Replacement Costs
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Dealer wants to charge $1100 to replace these hoses, seems quite excessive to me. Anybody have cost history on this?
One other note, I took this car in about year and half ago for a very similar problem - engine hesitation around 2000 rpm and ocasional rough idle which was fixed under extended APCO warranty by replacing 3 coils and spark plugs. The hose replacement is not covered under this APCO warranty
2000 S type, 3.0
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One other note, I took this car in about year and half ago for a very similar problem - engine hesitation around 2000 rpm and ocasional rough idle which was fixed under extended APCO warranty by replacing 3 coils and spark plugs. The hose replacement is not covered under this APCO warranty
2000 S type, 3.0
thx,
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Dealer reports breather hose under intake manifold split as well as top breather hose. Checked with a local independent Jag repair shop, they want $325 including parts to replace both hoses. Much cheaper than the dealers $1100 cost. He also recommends changing right bank plugs and coils while he's got the intake manifold off (left side was done on my last repair).
thx for the replies..
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Please help,
I just went to the dealership to get my check engine light turned off.
I have a 2003 S-Type Jag. that drives great; but every now and then when I am stopped and do a hard acceleration it boggs down for a second and then is fine.
I was given an extimate of $1100 to replace the upper and lower intake gaskets ($680 for labor and $392 for parts). This seems like an outrageous price. The dealership is charging $27 for each gasket and says that they need to replace all 12 (6 upper and 6 lower) and the only real problem according to the dealership is that a $15 pcv hose needs to be replaced.
I checked on line and the gaskets are $4 each. Here was the dealerships email to me regarding why their estimate was so high:
The intake gasket have to be removed to replace the pcv hose and the imt orings seals. When you remove the upper and lower part of the intake housing, the gaskets has to be replaced so that the intake manifold will properly seal. They are not reusable seals.
So is it true that inorder to replace the pcv hose and imt orings that all of the gaskets have to be replaced? Is this a reasonable price???
Thanks for any help or advice that you can provide!
I just went to the dealership to get my check engine light turned off.
I have a 2003 S-Type Jag. that drives great; but every now and then when I am stopped and do a hard acceleration it boggs down for a second and then is fine.
I was given an extimate of $1100 to replace the upper and lower intake gaskets ($680 for labor and $392 for parts). This seems like an outrageous price. The dealership is charging $27 for each gasket and says that they need to replace all 12 (6 upper and 6 lower) and the only real problem according to the dealership is that a $15 pcv hose needs to be replaced.
I checked on line and the gaskets are $4 each. Here was the dealerships email to me regarding why their estimate was so high:
The intake gasket have to be removed to replace the pcv hose and the imt orings seals. When you remove the upper and lower part of the intake housing, the gaskets has to be replaced so that the intake manifold will properly seal. They are not reusable seals.
So is it true that inorder to replace the pcv hose and imt orings that all of the gaskets have to be replaced? Is this a reasonable price???
Thanks for any help or advice that you can provide!
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Being a dealer, their per hour charge will be high. That's why people DIY or find a good indy. If you DIY you can assess whether you wish to reuse parts. A dealer (and maybe an indy) will in effect have to guarantee their work for (say) 5 years so will tend to play safe and replace anything that can fail to seal due to age such as O rings and gaskets. So.... decide what to do now you know the "rules". (I'd DIY.) If you consider DIY, spend serious time reading how and what to do. There are posts here and other easily found sites as well as online pay-to-use sites and JTIS. In effect you pay yourself to be the dealer. If you decide not to DIY then you know your other choices.
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Call around to other Jaguar dealership parts departments in your general area. While researching an intermittent misfire issue back in October, I found a dealership about 80 miles from me that charges less than half of what our local dealership charges for the intake gaskets, IMT O-rings, and iridium spark plugs. My local dealership is about 25 miles from me, so it will be well worth my time to keep a parts list and occasionally make the drive to the other dealership for any dealer-only parts that I need to service our car....
I also learned that this other dealership charges about half of what our local dealership charges for various maintenance services such as fuel injector/induction cleaning....
Take the time to shop around. You may uncover similar savings....
I also learned that this other dealership charges about half of what our local dealership charges for various maintenance services such as fuel injector/induction cleaning....
Take the time to shop around. You may uncover similar savings....
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If you have an 02 up (vin split in there somewhere) with large individual intake orings you can reuse them(i do) the earlier always need to be replaced cause they suck. And ill say something to all of you that are bitchen. You can always find something cheaper, and trust me when i say that i can usually buy parts cheaper not where i work(even with discount) than other places like motorcars...reason jaguar charges dealers a fixed price for parts and those in many cases are more than dealers can buy elsewhere too. But theyre under contract as a manufacturers rep. Also try to get retirement, medical/dental insurance etc and an independant if youre an employee. Ya'll amaze me at the total lack of business understanding and costs involved im running it. Everyone has a choice i dont go in your business and bitchh about prices and your fees. If i cannot afford you i wont go to you, but i wont slam you for charging what you charge. I give lots of "free" advise here to help ya'll. And none of it i have to look up, why?......cause i know how to fix a jaguar and you should pay more for that knowledge..i end up diagnosising cars for indies all the time either indirectly and directly cause theyre dont have the knowledge and or tools. and these cars are not getting easier to fix year after year...
as much as i would pay a doctor who is a specialists(dealership) vs a general practitioner(indy)........okay im done.....opps 1 more thing,,yes those orings for the intake are friggen expensive which is why i reuse the orings...okay now im done
as much as i would pay a doctor who is a specialists(dealership) vs a general practitioner(indy)........okay im done.....opps 1 more thing,,yes those orings for the intake are friggen expensive which is why i reuse the orings...okay now im done
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Brutal,
I've always respected your opinions and your advice. You've helped me in several maintenance issues recently and I truly appreciate that. You continue to assist those of us on this forum who seek advice and those of us who have been here long enough to get to know you would never take you for granted....
That being said, how can you justify one Jaguar dealership essentially doubling its prices for parts and service compared to its closest rival dealership about 80 miles away? Our local dealership has lost multiple customers that we personally know as a result of the perception of overcharging, and I've also made the decision recently to never darken their door again. They are located in an affluent area less than a mile from a very affluent country club residential development, but they serve the entire metropolitan area made up of at least four separate and distinctive cities. The country club set may be willing to pay double for parts and service, but the rest of us are learning very quickly that if we are willing to make a longer drive, the next-closest dealership is much more fairly priced and does not treat its customers shabbily (or often just ignore them) when they don't walk through the door wearing $2,000 suits....
There's a big difference between pricing your parts and services as dictated by corporate business practices and ripping off your customers simply because you can....
I've always respected your opinions and your advice. You've helped me in several maintenance issues recently and I truly appreciate that. You continue to assist those of us on this forum who seek advice and those of us who have been here long enough to get to know you would never take you for granted....
That being said, how can you justify one Jaguar dealership essentially doubling its prices for parts and service compared to its closest rival dealership about 80 miles away? Our local dealership has lost multiple customers that we personally know as a result of the perception of overcharging, and I've also made the decision recently to never darken their door again. They are located in an affluent area less than a mile from a very affluent country club residential development, but they serve the entire metropolitan area made up of at least four separate and distinctive cities. The country club set may be willing to pay double for parts and service, but the rest of us are learning very quickly that if we are willing to make a longer drive, the next-closest dealership is much more fairly priced and does not treat its customers shabbily (or often just ignore them) when they don't walk through the door wearing $2,000 suits....
There's a big difference between pricing your parts and services as dictated by corporate business practices and ripping off your customers simply because you can....
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Brutal,
I've always respected your opinions and your advice. You've helped me in several maintenance issues recently and I truly appreciate that. You continue to assist those of us on this forum who seek advice and those of us who have been here long enough to get to know you would never take you for granted....
That being said, how can you justify one Jaguar dealership essentially doubling its prices for parts and service compared to its closest rival dealership about 80 miles away? Our local dealership has lost multiple customers that we personally know as a result of the perception of overcharging, and I've also made the decision recently to never darken their door again. They are located in an affluent area less than a mile from a very affluent country club residential development, but they serve the entire metropolitan area made up of at least four separate and distinctive cities. The country club set may be willing to pay double for parts and service, but the rest of us are learning very quickly that if we are willing to make a longer drive, the next-closest dealership is much more fairly priced and does not treat its customers shabbily (or often just ignore them) when they don't walk through the door wearing $2,000 suits....
There's a big difference between pricing your parts and services as dictated by corporate business practices and ripping off your customers simply because you can....
I've always respected your opinions and your advice. You've helped me in several maintenance issues recently and I truly appreciate that. You continue to assist those of us on this forum who seek advice and those of us who have been here long enough to get to know you would never take you for granted....
That being said, how can you justify one Jaguar dealership essentially doubling its prices for parts and service compared to its closest rival dealership about 80 miles away? Our local dealership has lost multiple customers that we personally know as a result of the perception of overcharging, and I've also made the decision recently to never darken their door again. They are located in an affluent area less than a mile from a very affluent country club residential development, but they serve the entire metropolitan area made up of at least four separate and distinctive cities. The country club set may be willing to pay double for parts and service, but the rest of us are learning very quickly that if we are willing to make a longer drive, the next-closest dealership is much more fairly priced and does not treat its customers shabbily (or often just ignore them) when they don't walk through the door wearing $2,000 suits....
There's a big difference between pricing your parts and services as dictated by corporate business practices and ripping off your customers simply because you can....
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