A/C was fixed now this..
#21
Yes it has more than 3 hoses, I only mentioned the ones I ca see from top side. The part that really has me puzzled is that when I first start the car everything works great, cold air, hot heat, can move from heater to ac, vents from floor to defroster to front vents and it still works great when back on ac. The moment I raise the rpms the drivers side starts getting warm, but the passenger side remains cold. Lower the rpms and the ac goes back cold on both sides. Any clues?
Last edited by uptwobucks; 09-12-2016 at 06:08 PM.
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Yes it has more than 3 hoses, I only mentioned the ones I ca see from top side. The part that really has me puzzled is that when I first start the car everything works great, cold air, hot heat, can move from heater to ac, vents from floor to defroster to front vents and it still works great when back on ac. The moment I raise the rpms the drivers side starts getting warm, but the passenger side remains cold. Lower the rpms and the ac goes back cold on both sides. Any clues?
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The part that really has me puzzled is that when I first start the car everything works great, cold air, hot heat, can move from heater to ac, vents from floor to defroster to front vents and it still works great when back on ac. The moment I raise the rpms the drivers side starts getting warm, but the passenger side remains cold. Lower the rpms and the ac goes back cold on both sides. Any clues?
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Remember, Jaguar dealerships replace with new parts. They won't troubleshoot down to a burnt track on the circuit board.
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#29
Jaguar Houston? I don't know the names, but if I were in the Houston area in need of Jaguar service, I'd make sure I found the dealership that employs Brutal!!! Either that or contact him through the forum and ask if he accepts such jobs out of his home-shop. I've no doubt he could sort it.
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#31
Maybe I misunderstand the problem. Sounds to me like your gripe is that with full cold selected on both sides, you get hot air out of the driver's side vents once you increase turns above idle, while cold air continues to emanate from the passenger side vents. Once returned to idle, the driver's side begins to cool off, returning to full cold as long as you leave the engine at idle. Correct?
If so, you don't have a refrigerant circuit problem. (Cold air is produced and delivered to your pax-side vents)
You don't have a coolant circulation pump problem. (hot coolant is delivered to the appropriate section of the heater core to produced heated air at the driver's side vents)
At full cold, one task of the climate control module is to command the water valve to keep both sides closed to prevent coolant flow to the heater core. (I suspect, but not having the V-8, don't care enough to look it up - that it also commands the coolant circulation pump to "off")
The task of the water valve (DCCV) is to keep both outlets to the heater core closed as commanded by the climate control module.
Enjoy playing with your coolant pump, but make sure you reserve some time to diagnose your real problem.
If so, you don't have a refrigerant circuit problem. (Cold air is produced and delivered to your pax-side vents)
You don't have a coolant circulation pump problem. (hot coolant is delivered to the appropriate section of the heater core to produced heated air at the driver's side vents)
At full cold, one task of the climate control module is to command the water valve to keep both sides closed to prevent coolant flow to the heater core. (I suspect, but not having the V-8, don't care enough to look it up - that it also commands the coolant circulation pump to "off")
The task of the water valve (DCCV) is to keep both outlets to the heater core closed as commanded by the climate control module.
Enjoy playing with your coolant pump, but make sure you reserve some time to diagnose your real problem.
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#32
Same: AC cool when engine idles and warm/hot as engine speed increases
2002 Jaguar s-type 4.0 No Navigation
Started blowing hot again on Drivers side.
Temperature outside 89 degrees south Texas
A/C pressures
Low side 35
High side 250
Changed last year 2015:
DCCV
Compressor
Dryer
A/C is cold when at idle through all vents. Sitting in the car and raising the rpms, the drivers side air vents begin to blow warm/hot...
Started blowing hot again on Drivers side.
Temperature outside 89 degrees south Texas
A/C pressures
Low side 35
High side 250
Changed last year 2015:
DCCV
Compressor
Dryer
A/C is cold when at idle through all vents. Sitting in the car and raising the rpms, the drivers side air vents begin to blow warm/hot...
Similar to uptwobucks, my 05 STR's AC is cool (not cold) at idle but after the accelerator is pressed the AC is warm. Then AC air turns hot after a couple minutes at higher rpms. If the engine returns to idle for a few minutes, the AC will again become cool (not cold). I'll let you know what I find out.
Edit/Add:
After engine idled for just over 5 minutes, with an air temp of 80F, these were the AC vent temps (cool, not cold)
(Left 70F) - - (Center Left 66F) - - (Center Right 67F) - - (Right 72F)
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aholbro1: You are very likely correct; I will verify the pressures.
I usually repair most everything myself but this AC issue has me stumped. I had TOPLINE Jaguar in Virginia work on my AC system but after spending a lot of money, they were not able to fix the AC system -- ever after a couple attempts to do so. Don't get me wrong, everyone at TOPLINE was nice (both shop personnel and the female owner) but they were not able to fix my AC issues.
I usually repair most everything myself but this AC issue has me stumped. I had TOPLINE Jaguar in Virginia work on my AC system but after spending a lot of money, they were not able to fix the AC system -- ever after a couple attempts to do so. Don't get me wrong, everyone at TOPLINE was nice (both shop personnel and the female owner) but they were not able to fix my AC issues.
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#35
Many 02 and prior HVAC modules have shorted out... It's easier to pull it out and check vs. replacing the DCCV. Considering you already had replaced your DCCV I would check that climate circuit board.
Remember, Jaguar dealerships replace with new parts. They won't troubleshoot down to a burnt track on the circuit board.
Remember, Jaguar dealerships replace with new parts. They won't troubleshoot down to a burnt track on the circuit board.
#36
Jaguar Houston? I don't know the names, but if I were in the Houston area in need of Jaguar service, I'd make sure I found the dealership that employs Brutal!!! Either that or contact him through the forum and ask if he accepts such jobs out of his home-shop. I've no doubt he could sort it.
#37
Maybe I misunderstand the problem. Sounds to me like your gripe is that with full cold selected on both sides, you get hot air out of the driver's side vents once you increase turns above idle, while cold air continues to emanate from the passenger side vents. Once returned to idle, the driver's side begins to cool off, returning to full cold as long as you leave the engine at idle. Correct?
If so, you don't have a refrigerant circuit problem. (Cold air is produced and delivered to your pax-side vents)
You don't have a coolant circulation pump problem. (hot coolant is delivered to the appropriate section of the heater core to produced heated air at the driver's side vents)
At full cold, one task of the climate control module is to command the water valve to keep both sides closed to prevent coolant flow to the heater core. (I suspect, but not having the V-8, don't care enough to look it up - that it also commands the coolant circulation pump to "off")
The task of the water valve (DCCV) is to keep both outlets to the heater core closed as commanded by the climate control module.
Enjoy playing with your coolant pump, but make sure you reserve some time to diagnose your real problem.
If so, you don't have a refrigerant circuit problem. (Cold air is produced and delivered to your pax-side vents)
You don't have a coolant circulation pump problem. (hot coolant is delivered to the appropriate section of the heater core to produced heated air at the driver's side vents)
At full cold, one task of the climate control module is to command the water valve to keep both sides closed to prevent coolant flow to the heater core. (I suspect, but not having the V-8, don't care enough to look it up - that it also commands the coolant circulation pump to "off")
The task of the water valve (DCCV) is to keep both outlets to the heater core closed as commanded by the climate control module.
Enjoy playing with your coolant pump, but make sure you reserve some time to diagnose your real problem.
Yes, That is correct. Cold at idle, raise the rpms, drivers side goes to ambient air. Once returned to idle, both sides cold again.
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Looks like he hasn't graced us since the middle of August.....it will be a SAD DAY indeed if Brutal has left the forum....
Looks like he hasn't graced us since the middle of August.....it will be a SAD DAY indeed if Brutal has left the forum....
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#39
With that, I give up! I can't imagine a scenario where you have a cold evap core and you get "pass-thru" ambient air from one side. Heated air, clear enough...that's just failure to stop the hot water upstream of the heater core.
Only possibility I can see is the increased rpms are forcing "a little bit" of hot water through the side of the DCCV that serves the driver's side, and that trickle is only enough to warm the cold air coming from the evap up to about the 90-100 you have in the environment there. Otherwise, I fold.
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