Dodged a bullet...sort of
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I don't see how you figure. $240 for parts and $225 for labor plus you'd need the alignment set. So...you paid $465 for parts and labor, another $85 for alignment. That's $550 plus tax for yours and $607 including tax for mine. My parts and the labor are fully warranted which yours...dunno.
There's no doubt about it, a dealer will cost more but twice.....doesn't seem so.
There's no doubt about it, a dealer will cost more but twice.....doesn't seem so.
Environmental fees?
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Toller, Mikey makes a very valid point. How did Jaguar arrive at $650 when they only replaced the front tierods and performed an alignment? I replaced all four tierods and had an alignment. Jaguar does charge 2X more for their services ($120/hr plus 2x more for their parts). I've been there myself and would return only for services beyond my mechanics expertice. Fortunately my 03 STR now has an independent certified Jaguar and Rolls mechanic who charges $65/hr whilst our Ford Expedition and Explorer standard mechanic charges $75/hr?
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I believe that they are refering to these, which where shot at 42,000 miles, I believe Jons went kaput around the same mileage.
passenger rear wheel
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Toller (12-13-2010)
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I agree with the comments made herein regarding the correlation of cost of services with education and training. Take something as simple as English lessons. I, for example, dropped out of school in the 10th grade. My writing skills, grammar and spelling are deplorable which is a disservice to everyone that is subjected to reading my posts. On the other hand, those with higher educations are better able to express themselves in a clearer, more concise manner and more easily articulate their point of view and in a much more eloquant way than I am...testimony that education pays.
Hopefully anyone can appreciate that the cost of specialized training needs to be considered someway with the most likely place being in the dealer's overhead, which customers have to pay. Otherwise, all those specially trained dealer techs will soon be Indys like me and competing for my business. Come on guys, pay up, I'm already struggling with poor English skills, don't make me competed with the factory techs too.
Hopefully anyone can appreciate that the cost of specialized training needs to be considered someway with the most likely place being in the dealer's overhead, which customers have to pay. Otherwise, all those specially trained dealer techs will soon be Indys like me and competing for my business. Come on guys, pay up, I'm already struggling with poor English skills, don't make me competed with the factory techs too.
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Rick-
Those are the ones. The parts price we are in agreement on. The labor is the disputed cost.
I don't know what I can do besides drive an extra 200 miles round trip to go to another dealer. Given the cost of tires and the dire warnings about mis-alignment by non-dealers that have been posted here, there wasn't much else I could do.
Those are the ones. The parts price we are in agreement on. The labor is the disputed cost.
I don't know what I can do besides drive an extra 200 miles round trip to go to another dealer. Given the cost of tires and the dire warnings about mis-alignment by non-dealers that have been posted here, there wasn't much else I could do.
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I think there's too much stereotyping and generalization going on.
1) Not all repairs require someone with a PhD
2) Not all dealership techs have PhDs
3) Not all indys lack PhDs
4) Not all techs with PhDs can apply their knowledge effectively
It comes down to the skill of the individual person working on the car vs. the task they have been asked to do. Changing tie rods and setting alignment on these cars is not rocket science.
I do like the subtle message in steve11's well-worded post.
1) Not all repairs require someone with a PhD
2) Not all dealership techs have PhDs
3) Not all indys lack PhDs
4) Not all techs with PhDs can apply their knowledge effectively
It comes down to the skill of the individual person working on the car vs. the task they have been asked to do. Changing tie rods and setting alignment on these cars is not rocket science.
I do like the subtle message in steve11's well-worded post.
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Eric, front and rear tie rods are NOT covered under select warranty.
I have a B.S. degree
setting alignment is not rocket science, but yet so many people DO NOT know how too do it properly outside what a machine tells you it makes me wonder. And again, the specs loaded into every alignment machine even with current software for the 03 and up Stype is WRONG!!! Dealers(or those that know here) have to manually load and save the specs into their machines. I do this and had to reload them when we got the latest and greatest software from Hunter last fall. So if you dont know that the original specs have been change from jaguar, youre gonna align the car to specs in a machine that are wrong, and have a car that still chews up the inside of the front tires. ( garbage in=garbage out no matter how good you are) Anyone is only as good as the info they know or are provided. no more no less.Just think bloodletting and the world is flat are 2 things that come to mind that USED to be FACT
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Toller (12-13-2010)
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Eric, front and rear tie rods are NOT covered under select warranty.
I have a B.S. degree
setting alignment is not rocket science, but yet so many people DO NOT know how too do it properly outside what a machine tells you it makes me wonder. And again, the specs loaded into every alignment machine even with current software for the 03 and up Stype is WRONG!!! Dealers(or those that know here) have to manually load and save the specs into their machines. I do this and had to reload them when we got the latest and greatest software from Hunter last fall. So if you dont know that the original specs have been change from jaguar, youre gonna align the car to specs in a machine that are wrong, and have a car that still chews up the inside of the front tires. ( garbage in=garbage out no matter how good you are) Anyone is only as good as the info they know or are provided. no more no less.Just think bloodletting and the world is flat are 2 things that come to mind that USED to be FACT
MERRY CHRISTMAS
I have a B.S. degree
setting alignment is not rocket science, but yet so many people DO NOT know how too do it properly outside what a machine tells you it makes me wonder. And again, the specs loaded into every alignment machine even with current software for the 03 and up Stype is WRONG!!! Dealers(or those that know here) have to manually load and save the specs into their machines. I do this and had to reload them when we got the latest and greatest software from Hunter last fall. So if you dont know that the original specs have been change from jaguar, youre gonna align the car to specs in a machine that are wrong, and have a car that still chews up the inside of the front tires. ( garbage in=garbage out no matter how good you are) Anyone is only as good as the info they know or are provided. no more no less.Just think bloodletting and the world is flat are 2 things that come to mind that USED to be FACT
MERRY CHRISTMAS