Door speakers
#1
Door speakers
This electrical diagram has me a bit fumbled, I am replacing my door speakers on my alpine system to a new set of alpine type r speakers as the old system has dry rotted with age a bit. My only thing is wiring part. Looks like 4 wires are going to the stock setup 1 hot 1 ground each for mid bass and tweeter so 4 wires. How would I go about making it a plug in for two?
#2
Logic would dictate this:
If the Jag system already has 2 wires for the tweeters and two for the medium range and low frequencies, this means that the 2 output cables from the stereo have already passed thru a "Frequenzweiche", a frequency separating filter (FSF). Thus, if you cannot find a way to bypass the FSF on your new speakers and connect the 4 wires to your new speakers at the 4 dedicated points, I see 3 options:
1.) buy other speakers, where this is possible.
2.) connect only the 2 Jag wires, which are NOT for the tweeters to your new speakers and buy additional tweeters, to which you connect the 2 Jag tweeter wires.
3.) find the FSF in the Jag, remove it, and feed the 2 input wires of that FSF directly to your new speaker.
I am from a generation, where you could go into a HiFi Shop, buy separate tweeters, medium frequency and bass speakers, buy - or even solder from scratch - a FSF (best, if you have the ability to calculate, which coils, etc., you need exactly and then build a wooden box for them (solid thick wood, so that nothing vibrates). That is where my suggestions above "come from"... A friend, who worked at a HiEnd (= one step above HiFi) Shop, even had tweeters, which do not have a coil nor a moving membrane, but the sound comes from light-arcs! And somehow he managed to get a surround-sound out of 2 self-built speakers, massively big, filled with sand.... So...: I don't know: Maybe the way to the perfect sound in a Jag is to fill up the door frames with sand... Would make them bulletproof at the same time...
If the Jag system already has 2 wires for the tweeters and two for the medium range and low frequencies, this means that the 2 output cables from the stereo have already passed thru a "Frequenzweiche", a frequency separating filter (FSF). Thus, if you cannot find a way to bypass the FSF on your new speakers and connect the 4 wires to your new speakers at the 4 dedicated points, I see 3 options:
1.) buy other speakers, where this is possible.
2.) connect only the 2 Jag wires, which are NOT for the tweeters to your new speakers and buy additional tweeters, to which you connect the 2 Jag tweeter wires.
3.) find the FSF in the Jag, remove it, and feed the 2 input wires of that FSF directly to your new speaker.
I am from a generation, where you could go into a HiFi Shop, buy separate tweeters, medium frequency and bass speakers, buy - or even solder from scratch - a FSF (best, if you have the ability to calculate, which coils, etc., you need exactly and then build a wooden box for them (solid thick wood, so that nothing vibrates). That is where my suggestions above "come from"... A friend, who worked at a HiEnd (= one step above HiFi) Shop, even had tweeters, which do not have a coil nor a moving membrane, but the sound comes from light-arcs! And somehow he managed to get a surround-sound out of 2 self-built speakers, massively big, filled with sand.... So...: I don't know: Maybe the way to the perfect sound in a Jag is to fill up the door frames with sand... Would make them bulletproof at the same time...
#3
Nice reply from Peter!
The Alpine Type R is a beautiful speaker, I think it does come in a (dearer split with the separate crossover which you wouldn't need in this case), but you have the 2 way option.
The Jaguar 'Premium Sound' offering (which I assume you have per your attached factory diagram extract), has the crossover built in the amp; as Peter mentioned. So the tweeter and mid sound needs to feed directly to each driver in your 2 way, bypassing the crossover on your 2 way (stuck on the magnet in your photo).
You'll note the wires for the tweeter just showing on your photo, and the bottom plate must have the mid range speaker wires soldered on to it.
The Alpine Type R is an apt choice to fit in on the Type 'R'!
The Alpine Type R is a beautiful speaker, I think it does come in a (dearer split with the separate crossover which you wouldn't need in this case), but you have the 2 way option.
The Jaguar 'Premium Sound' offering (which I assume you have per your attached factory diagram extract), has the crossover built in the amp; as Peter mentioned. So the tweeter and mid sound needs to feed directly to each driver in your 2 way, bypassing the crossover on your 2 way (stuck on the magnet in your photo).
You'll note the wires for the tweeter just showing on your photo, and the bottom plate must have the mid range speaker wires soldered on to it.
The Alpine Type R is an apt choice to fit in on the Type 'R'!
#5
The original Alpine door speakers are two speakers in one unit.
The tweeter and the mid range.
However, I do not think that the amp has any frequency spliter with the system relying on the frequency response of the actual speakers. (But I may be wrong?)
You could try this by using the mid range connectors only on a speaker that has a good upper frequency range.
(You will not do any harm to the amp leaving one speaker unpluged.)
The tweeter and the mid range.
However, I do not think that the amp has any frequency spliter with the system relying on the frequency response of the actual speakers. (But I may be wrong?)
You could try this by using the mid range connectors only on a speaker that has a good upper frequency range.
(You will not do any harm to the amp leaving one speaker unpluged.)
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