Drive Cycle Does Not Reset O2 Sensor.
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Drive Cycle Does Not Reset O2 Sensor.
My 2007 S-Type with 86K miles can not get a California smog certificate because the O2 Sensor is not reporting. There are NO LIGHTS ON AND NO OBDII codes. I have performed the Basic Drive Cycle (as per repairpal.com). There are no other issues.
Where do I go from here?
Thanks
Where do I go from here?
Thanks
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Why did it get reset? That would normally only be done on fixing something so what was fixed/changed?
You likely have a fault, and that's likely to be related to something/work done.
Be aware that causing the monitors to be reset can leave the car unable to flag codes thus making it tough to troubleshoot.
You likely have a fault, and that's likely to be related to something/work done.
Be aware that causing the monitors to be reset can leave the car unable to flag codes thus making it tough to troubleshoot.
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About a year later, I moved to Oregon and the car would not pass OR smog, similar to what you experienced. No check engine light or DTC codes. Per the OR report, the O2 sensors were not being monitored. This was all very mystifying, as the car passed WA smog just fine, but apparently their test is watered down.
I took the car to an independent Jag shop in Oregon. What they found was non-US software had been loaded in the PCM. Once they loaded the correct software, both cats were immediately flagged as bad, confirmed via other diagnostics, and had to be replaced.
The best we could figure was the previous owner knew both cats had failed. Instead of replacing them ($$$), he had the PCM reflashed to some non-US version that didn't monitor the cats. The shop was not able to determine much about the old software, other than it not US-spec. It may have been intended for some third-world country with no emissions testing, but that is just a guess.
Hopefully you aren't on the short end of some sneaky tactics like that. I'd suggest having a shop check the software version. Just brace yourself because there may have been an expensive reason why somebody would resort to such trickery.
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I dunno if this is the same procedure as the other site has?
as per https://www.obd-codes.com/jaguar-drive-cycle
Upstream (Universal) oxygen sensors:
Engine OFF; cooling fans inoperative > 20 seconds. Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature > 82 °C (180 °F). Drive the vehicle between 3000 – 4000 rpm at a steady speed. Lift foot completely off accelerator and coast to a stop within 30 seconds. Do not touch accelerator pedal for 4 seconds after coming to a stop. Repeat step 3. Idle engine for 11 minutes.
Downstream oxygen sensors:
Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature > 82 °C (180 °F). Drive the vehicle steadily between 48 – 97 km/h (30 – 60 mph) for 10 minutes. Drive the vehicle above 3000 rpm in 4th gear at a steady speed. Lift foot completely off accelerator and coast for 30 seconds.
Oxygen sensor heaters:
Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature > 82 °C (180 °F). Idle engine for 3 minutes.
Engine OFF; cooling fans inoperative > 20 seconds. Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature > 82 °C (180 °F). Drive the vehicle between 3000 – 4000 rpm at a steady speed. Lift foot completely off accelerator and coast to a stop within 30 seconds. Do not touch accelerator pedal for 4 seconds after coming to a stop. Repeat step 3. Idle engine for 11 minutes.
Downstream oxygen sensors:
Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature > 82 °C (180 °F). Drive the vehicle steadily between 48 – 97 km/h (30 – 60 mph) for 10 minutes. Drive the vehicle above 3000 rpm in 4th gear at a steady speed. Lift foot completely off accelerator and coast for 30 seconds.
Oxygen sensor heaters:
Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature > 82 °C (180 °F). Idle engine for 3 minutes.
#7
I dunno if this is the same procedure as the other site has?
as per https://www.obd-codes.com/jaguar-drive-cycle
as per https://www.obd-codes.com/jaguar-drive-cycle
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#8
I dunno if this is the same procedure as the other site has?
as per https://www.obd-codes.com/jaguar-drive-cycle
as per https://www.obd-codes.com/jaguar-drive-cycle
Generally, for a car without faults, typical driving is good enough, though for EVAP you need to stick to the stated ways.
#9
What it meant was that the O2 sensor monitor was not set (aka complete). That does not mean the O2s were not being monitored. Rather, it means something is stopping the OBD monitor from running successfully through all its checks. Normally, and I think always, due to a fault.
Note that the O2 monitor did not unset itself. Usually someone caused it by clearing the codes (so what were they???) which also clears (unsets) the monitors.
It is never wise to clear codes without finding out the downsides.
Note that the O2 monitor did not unset itself. Usually someone caused it by clearing the codes (so what were they???) which also clears (unsets) the monitors.
It is never wise to clear codes without finding out the downsides.
#10
Just a bit of correction?
Might help others.
The problem is the readiness monitor for the O2 sensor is not set. This does NOT mean the O2 sensors are not reading or reporting. They are or you would be getting additional O2 senor codes. Your not so for now assume the O2 senors are working OK.
There are 5 monitors that need to be set and then you will see P1111.
Anytime you clear your codes P1111 will be reset to P1000. There is no error it's just telling you the PCM codes were cleared and the car has not been driven enough to reset the readiness monitors.
As you have found out there are driving procedures or cycles published to tell you how to get the monitors reset. BUT I have driven for weeks on end sometimes before I could get code P1111 back.
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Might help others.
The problem is the readiness monitor for the O2 sensor is not set. This does NOT mean the O2 sensors are not reading or reporting. They are or you would be getting additional O2 senor codes. Your not so for now assume the O2 senors are working OK.
There are 5 monitors that need to be set and then you will see P1111.
Anytime you clear your codes P1111 will be reset to P1000. There is no error it's just telling you the PCM codes were cleared and the car has not been driven enough to reset the readiness monitors.
As you have found out there are driving procedures or cycles published to tell you how to get the monitors reset. BUT I have driven for weeks on end sometimes before I could get code P1111 back.
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You may (very unusually) well be in Catch-22 where it cannot set codes or monitor(s). If the seller has caused it, as it seems, there's your fix.
If you wish it fixed otherwise, I'd say you need to be an (OBD/jag S-Type) expert or find one.
Also, explore your local laws in detail as you will need every bit of knowledge there is.
If you wish it fixed otherwise, I'd say you need to be an (OBD/jag S-Type) expert or find one.
Also, explore your local laws in detail as you will need every bit of knowledge there is.