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Old 05-19-2012, 01:11 AM
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Well i replaced the front lower ball joints in my 2000 stype 3.0 and it was a pretty easy job the hardest part was the removal of the hub from the knuckle. Napa Canada gave me the part number for moog lower ball joint for the Ls and then i got them to cross reference the part number for my jaguar and its the same number moog K500084. Now that that's done I need to change the lower strutt bushings. I am lead to believe that they can be pressed out and then in. I can't find a part number for the bushings or even a source. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:18 AM
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Time to replace the lower front strutt bushings. I just started looking with my local auto parts suppliers and so far no luck finding any available part for the lower bushing if any one has any insight into a source for a lower bushing let me know
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Do you have a press? Could you let me know what kind it is and where you got it? Thanks.

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Just a bit more information about ball joints. The early 1999-2002 cars came with 14mm ball joints. These proved to be not up to the task and there was a running change to the 16mm version sometime during the 2002 model year. So be sure and check. They will not interchange without replacing the entire spindle.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:04 PM
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No problem pressing in the lower ball joints. They went right in. I used a ball joint press the press looks like a very heavy duty C clamp. Now I'm working on sourceing out lower front strut bushings. I think I have a part number that I think is the oem number W0133-1828560
Autopartswarehouse.com shows the part but they say it doesn't work on my s-type but talking to Sam at professional fleet services (watch his YouTube video) he says that he has put this part into a couple of s-types. I am going to call the dealer on Tuesday and do some more research (Monday being a statutory holiday)
I will update this thread when I have more info
 
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Do you have a press? Could you let me know what kind it is and where you got it? Thanks.

Mike
Hi mike are you looking for the ball joint or the strut bushing part numbers
All my best Richard
 
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:13 PM
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I was looking for the type/brand/kind of press you are using to press the bushings/ball joints in/out, now I see you've posted that info -- thanks!

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I used a fellow coworkers ball joint press. If i remember correctly the brand name is OTC. The unit worked but the rings that you use to press the old ball joint out would not fit between the ball joint and nuckle so i had to shim the ring away so that the old ball joint had room to travel out of the press fit. On the installing i couldn't just land the press on the new ball joint with the supplied pieces (again clearance to the knuckle) so i used a steel plate i shaped to fit correctly. When driving in the new ball joint make sure the start is square. If not loosen off the press. Relocate the press to press it square.press it square. Release the press relocate to center and proceed driving the ball joint in. Once you you see things are moving correctly drive the joint all the way in until you feel a noticeable increase in resistance. At the same time watch for the ball joint to bottom out on the knuckle. The increase in press resistance and visually seeing the joint bottom out i think is an important little detail. And of course use lock tight.
 
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Thanks again! That's a great write up about pressing ball joints. I'm going to start a new thread about presses so as not to hijack this thread about replacing ball joints.


Here's a link to the other thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...t-press-73607/
 

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Would be kind of cool if you took some pics of how you did it during the replacement.
 
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I checked with jag and there is a recall for the front ball joints for certain yrs. Mine is included. I've had new struts and upper tie rods replaced. I'm hoping that this recall fixes the front noise at low speeds.
 
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:42 AM
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Hi Shibajack. I Believe the recall is for a loose ball joint nut hopefully this helps you
 
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A good source for Jag parts here in Ontario is Nemac Distributing Ltd. Contact YVONNE NESLING Pres., 1 800 668 7522. She is super knowledgeable.
I just p/up front bearings, bushings,b/pads, and shop service C/D.
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Thanks Wayne I'll enter the info in my book for future use.
 
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My front left side is shot. I got to replace my Lower & Upper tie rod, Lower balljoint & Upper Control Arm. Are there any bushings I should replace or those parts comes with all the bushings??
 
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My front left side is shot. I got to replace my Lower & Upper tie rod, Lower balljoint & Upper Control Arm. Are there any bushings I should replace or those parts comes with all the bushings??
How many KM on your ride.

I think you mean inner and outer tie rods. Lower ball joints do both sides.

I think the upper control arms are complete assemblies with a replaceable ball joint (which you will probably never have to do again) The real clunk noise from my front end was the sway bar bushings not the links but the bushings.

I put a pair of after market Moog ones in and at first they worked but I think I should of gone with the OEM ones. Before that I tried to find the clunk for a while and only figured it out when I unattached one of the sway bar links and gave the sway bar a shake and bingo that clunk noise.

On my s-type 3.0 the left side was easy but the right side took a little more work. What I had to do was unscrew the climate control valve system CCVS ( I think that's the proper name you'll find it on this web sight) .carefully move it up out of the way.

Then remove the CCVS mounting bracket which then makes it possible to replace the right bushing.

While your in there the links are probably toast to. Those you can get after market. One more thing. When you replace the upper control arm make sure you pre load the suspention to the normal ride hight before you tighten the bolts on the body side.

I hope that steers you in the right direction (pardon the pun) let me know how it goes. Richard
 

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Originally Posted by Richard from Fraser Valley
How many KM on your ride. I think you mean inner and outer tie rods. Lower ball joints do both sides. I think the upper control arms are complete assemblies with a replaceable ball joint (which you will probably never have to do again) The real clunk noise from my front end was the sway bar bushings not the links but the bushings. I put a pair of after market Moog ones in and at first they worked but I think I should of gone with the OEM ones. Before that I tried to find the clunk for a while and only figured it out when I unattached one of the sway bar links and gave the sway bar a shake and bingo that clunk noise. On my s-type 3.0 the left side was easy but the right side took a little more work. What I had to do was unscrew the climate control valve system CCVS ( I think that's the proper name you'll find it on this web sight) .carefully move it up out of the way. Then remove the CCVS mounting bracket which then makes it possible to replace the right bushing. While your in there the links are probably toast to. Those you can get after market. One more thing. When you replace the upper control arm make sure you pre load the suspention to the normal ride hight before you tighten the bolts on the body side. I hope that steers you in the right direction (pardon the pun) let me know how it goes. Richard
Thanks for reply, really appreciate it! I have 102k miles on my car. Where did you purchase the "Sway Bar" bushings from? I was told about rockauto.com
 

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Old 09-05-2012, 08:48 PM
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Thanks for reply, really appreciate it! I have 102k miles on my car. Where did you purchase the "Sway Bar" bushings from? I was told about rockauto.com
I was thinking the dealer being that the pieces are relitively cheap. If you go with rock auto let me know how it went. Thanks
 

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Ok I'm looking for help wit my 01 s-type 4.0. So the front end was riding loose felt like I was on ice skates when I get her over 45-50 so I had the ball joint tightened,now the problem is back! Sooo how do I tell if my car should have been recalled and if I'm doing the repairs where should I get the parts or what are the best parts to get, I don't want to get the parts at the repair shop because of the mark up and I have seen some on ebay but I don't want cheap stuff that will break....help..please!
 
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Just a bit more information about ball joints. The early 1999-2002 cars came with 14mm ball joints. These proved to be not up to the task and there was a running change to the 16mm version sometime during the 2002 model year. So be sure and check. They will not interchange without replacing the entire spindle.
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So will I need to change from a 14 to a 16 and change the knuckle as well?
 


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