Headliner Time
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Headliner Time
Welp today I dropped Joyces Jag headliner, moonroof and visors. I followed past members "cabtop" 2002 S Type headliner rmoval DIY thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...al-how-129199/
Our 2005 MY was a bit different but basically the same. Took about an hour and I did remove the passenger seat for egress. I could do the project for about $100.00 (fabric and 3M headliner adhesive) without matching the visors to the new liner. I called around to the local upholsterers, best price $300.00 for headliner, moonroof and 2 sewn visor covers, removed and prepared to finish. The fabric is a very close match to original "Jaguar Champagne" as marked on moonroof. My displaced sister from Key West helped me remove the deteriorating adhesive. I will update after install a week from this Saturday.
Last edited by joycesjag; 09-13-2017 at 03:15 PM.
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Looking forward to the update, Rick. Hope your sister has some stuff to go back to....but I applaud you making climate refugees earn their keep, even if they're family! I need to do mgmt's 05. Paid $400 or so to have the 03 done shortly after purchase and before discovering this fine resource (the forum)
But I've bumbled my way through two XJ headliners, so I'm ready to take on the S-Type when I get more pressing matters out of the way.
5 pipe-wrenches?!? You got any saggy pants to use them with? (I've only got 2, and they're the same size) but let's face it, 1 is kind of useless by itself...
But I've bumbled my way through two XJ headliners, so I'm ready to take on the S-Type when I get more pressing matters out of the way.
5 pipe-wrenches?!? You got any saggy pants to use them with? (I've only got 2, and they're the same size) but let's face it, 1 is kind of useless by itself...
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If I were just replacing the liner and moonroof I would have tackled the job myself. I am not a seamstress for the visors, there for I have to pay the big bucks.
Doesn't everyone have 5 monkey wrenches? I thought they were mandatory. I am surprised you did not ask what's attached to the orange bicycle flag.
Doesn't everyone have 5 monkey wrenches? I thought they were mandatory. I am surprised you did not ask what's attached to the orange bicycle flag.
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I had my headliner redone a few years ago. Cost was under $300. I thought that was reasonable.
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Well? Don't keep us in suspense!
My attention was otherwise consumed trying to figure out what the black rectangles or cylinders are that are hanging on the pegboard just above your sister's head? My guess is deepwell impact sockets, but I've not run across pegs that would support them in that orientation..
Nice, organized shop, though Rick! I've got some cleaning and straightening to do. Currently in the process of putting almost everything up on swivel casters. Maybe I could get somewhere near 2X the estimated repair times in your how-to's if my tools were all in one area, at-the-ready like that!
So you are cleaning the board, then sending the whole kit-n-kaboodle out to a shop for recovering? Do you have to strip the visors, too? There's a visor how-to here somewhere, though it may be over in the X300 section. It's a clamshell-type affair if I recall.
My attention was otherwise consumed trying to figure out what the black rectangles or cylinders are that are hanging on the pegboard just above your sister's head? My guess is deepwell impact sockets, but I've not run across pegs that would support them in that orientation..
Nice, organized shop, though Rick! I've got some cleaning and straightening to do. Currently in the process of putting almost everything up on swivel casters. Maybe I could get somewhere near 2X the estimated repair times in your how-to's if my tools were all in one area, at-the-ready like that!
So you are cleaning the board, then sending the whole kit-n-kaboodle out to a shop for recovering? Do you have to strip the visors, too? There's a visor how-to here somewhere, though it may be over in the X300 section. It's a clamshell-type affair if I recall.
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Well ya'll have to wait a bit longer to see what's behind door #1, Monty...
Black thingies are indeed short and deep well impact sockets hanging on just "L" shaped pegboard hooks, I use alot of those. Thanks for the compliment on organization. Trust me, Zane you know there is more kid crap in there than I can stand! It's all on both sides just out of the photo.
My father had gotten all of us boys on hanging tools. He would pull into the garage every night, take a quick glance and know exactly what was "misplaced". I got caught misplacing a claw hammer once. I was not allowed to touch the tools until 3 days after I found and hung the misplaced hammer. My buddies and I were building a tree fort back in the day.
Black thingies are indeed short and deep well impact sockets hanging on just "L" shaped pegboard hooks, I use alot of those. Thanks for the compliment on organization. Trust me, Zane you know there is more kid crap in there than I can stand! It's all on both sides just out of the photo.
My father had gotten all of us boys on hanging tools. He would pull into the garage every night, take a quick glance and know exactly what was "misplaced". I got caught misplacing a claw hammer once. I was not allowed to touch the tools until 3 days after I found and hung the misplaced hammer. My buddies and I were building a tree fort back in the day.
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My system is not quite as efficient as your dad's: I pull into the yard with the mower, and by the time I'm finished mowing, I know exactly which tools are missing (I have 3 boys) and need to be replaced along with 3 mower blades.
Speaking of mowers, I spy the right front wheel of your John Deere at the right edge, and the grass deflector....but I don't see enough room for the rest of the tractor! Granted, it is out of frame, but even if the bench stops abruptly off-frame, I don't perceive enough depth to the wall to accommodate the Deere, what gives?
Speaking of mowers, I spy the right front wheel of your John Deere at the right edge, and the grass deflector....but I don't see enough room for the rest of the tractor! Granted, it is out of frame, but even if the bench stops abruptly off-frame, I don't perceive enough depth to the wall to accommodate the Deere, what gives?
Last edited by aholbro1; 09-15-2017 at 12:52 PM.
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And what of that foliage outside the window, clearly in need of a little trim? Chaos, absolute chaos, I say! Would it be safe to recline in a hammock in the yard, unsure what vegetative threats might be extant, waiting to ensnare one's limbs in repose? Sadly, I must admit my impression of Joycesjag has been shattered...
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Boy oh boy, you guys slay me. Just stick a spit through me and toss me on an open fire in the backyard using the limbs that I trim. Haha
The garage is actually a bit larger that it appears in the pic. Your eyes do not deceive you, there is a Deere parked in the corner.along with a fridge and butt loads of kid crap, now that's where the chaos begins!
To answer the question of what is attached to the bicycle flag. It's a 1958 promotional Corvette Jr. go cart that only 200 were made (300 in 1959). The bodies were made by the same factory that built the actual bodies. I purchased off a little old man that that lived up the street from me who was the original owner. Unfortunately it is molested but in a good way. Mr. Ray (original owner), installed larger motor, 4 spd., transmission, suspension, working headlights (hi/low beams), blinkers, brake lights. The windshield was broke in transport a few years back when it was shipped from Ohio to S.C.. Nope it's not for sale!
Oh to stay on topic, I did not strip visors. I left that part to the upholsterer. One thing I forget to say about headliner removal, the fiberglass shell is extremely itchy, wear protection!
The garage is actually a bit larger that it appears in the pic. Your eyes do not deceive you, there is a Deere parked in the corner.along with a fridge and butt loads of kid crap, now that's where the chaos begins!
To answer the question of what is attached to the bicycle flag. It's a 1958 promotional Corvette Jr. go cart that only 200 were made (300 in 1959). The bodies were made by the same factory that built the actual bodies. I purchased off a little old man that that lived up the street from me who was the original owner. Unfortunately it is molested but in a good way. Mr. Ray (original owner), installed larger motor, 4 spd., transmission, suspension, working headlights (hi/low beams), blinkers, brake lights. The windshield was broke in transport a few years back when it was shipped from Ohio to S.C.. Nope it's not for sale!
Oh to stay on topic, I did not strip visors. I left that part to the upholsterer. One thing I forget to say about headliner removal, the fiberglass shell is extremely itchy, wear protection!
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Haha, nope no errant vine, although my neighbor is having 2- 100 foot trees taken down today. The tree guy he hired is dropping them into my backyard.
Hopefully they won't get caught up in my jungle.
Oh you guys missed something in the picture. Probably to blurred when blown up.
Hopefully they won't get caught up in my jungle.
Oh you guys missed something in the picture. Probably to blurred when blown up.
Last edited by joycesjag; 09-18-2017 at 09:46 AM.
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Well, picked up the headliner, moonroof and visors and finally had time to install. The upholsterer did a great job.
As for install, well it did not go so well. The moonroof needs to be lowered on the backside. There are 3 bolts on each side. The middle and rear bolts need to be removed, the front 2 need to be loosened. I did not trim the material where it goes into track per upholsterers advice. Moonroof shade is a tight fit in the track, hopefully the material will form to the track. When the glass retracts the shade does as well. When I close the glass, shade stays in open position. This causes the glass to bind and automatically retracts into open position. I can reach into shade cavity to pull shade closed and getting glass to the closed position. I did not find this out until I finished install.
I did get the headliner into the vehicle, it's tight going through passenger rear door. I had gotten it halfway installed. Then I remembered that I did not put the 4 moonroof bolts back in and tighten 2 front bolts...
II did not pay attention to the visor brackets when removing. There is one of 3 ways they go back in, I found out on the third attempt, adding more time on install. Lastly, the moonroof button has a slight angle to it now, unknown reasons.
After the several extra hours on a beautiful Fall South Carolina Saturday morning, I threw my hands up grabbed some beers, wife and girls and went waterskiing. I will wait until a cold wintery day to drop headliner and correct issues. Joyce doesn't use moonroof that often anyways. Oh that is what got me into this mess. She had forgotten that she cracked it open, and the skies opened up in a torrential downpour.
As for install, well it did not go so well. The moonroof needs to be lowered on the backside. There are 3 bolts on each side. The middle and rear bolts need to be removed, the front 2 need to be loosened. I did not trim the material where it goes into track per upholsterers advice. Moonroof shade is a tight fit in the track, hopefully the material will form to the track. When the glass retracts the shade does as well. When I close the glass, shade stays in open position. This causes the glass to bind and automatically retracts into open position. I can reach into shade cavity to pull shade closed and getting glass to the closed position. I did not find this out until I finished install.
I did get the headliner into the vehicle, it's tight going through passenger rear door. I had gotten it halfway installed. Then I remembered that I did not put the 4 moonroof bolts back in and tighten 2 front bolts...
II did not pay attention to the visor brackets when removing. There is one of 3 ways they go back in, I found out on the third attempt, adding more time on install. Lastly, the moonroof button has a slight angle to it now, unknown reasons.
After the several extra hours on a beautiful Fall South Carolina Saturday morning, I threw my hands up grabbed some beers, wife and girls and went waterskiing. I will wait until a cold wintery day to drop headliner and correct issues. Joyce doesn't use moonroof that often anyways. Oh that is what got me into this mess. She had forgotten that she cracked it open, and the skies opened up in a torrential downpour.
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