I changed my mind about the S Type...
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Hi there,
My XJ is in Jaguar Lisbon, for a few fixes and I was loaned a S Type..
I admit it : when I saw it, I hated it. Plus, it had/has over 200,000kms ( 125k/130k miles to you guys over the pond
) ...
But, now, after a week of driving it everyday, I have to admit - its a hidden jewel of the Jaguar world - looks are still debatle but growing on me, super confortable car, great turning circle, easy to park, comes with all the bell and whistles, seats are very nice, dash is old school but very cool...
They are cheap as chips and to be honest, I dont understand why - this one is a loaner of Jaguar Portugal, has seen some miles and I suspect that since its a loaner its trashed when its loaned - and nothing creaks, nothing rattles, nothing sounds bad. Very impressed
Dislikes ? just the "auto-volume-with-speed-that-can't-be-disabled"... that is a PITA... minor dislike is the gearbox - coming from a smooth 8 speed XJ, this one feels a bit agricultural
oh.. and the loud "GOODBYE" message ehhehehe
But all in all, you gents S Type owners got a very fine car.
I've seen a S TYPE R version a while ago for a STEAL price with low miles on it.. .if I knew what I know today... who knows
My XJ is in Jaguar Lisbon, for a few fixes and I was loaned a S Type..
I admit it : when I saw it, I hated it. Plus, it had/has over 200,000kms ( 125k/130k miles to you guys over the pond
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But, now, after a week of driving it everyday, I have to admit - its a hidden jewel of the Jaguar world - looks are still debatle but growing on me, super confortable car, great turning circle, easy to park, comes with all the bell and whistles, seats are very nice, dash is old school but very cool...
They are cheap as chips and to be honest, I dont understand why - this one is a loaner of Jaguar Portugal, has seen some miles and I suspect that since its a loaner its trashed when its loaned - and nothing creaks, nothing rattles, nothing sounds bad. Very impressed
Dislikes ? just the "auto-volume-with-speed-that-can't-be-disabled"... that is a PITA... minor dislike is the gearbox - coming from a smooth 8 speed XJ, this one feels a bit agricultural
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But all in all, you gents S Type owners got a very fine car.
I've seen a S TYPE R version a while ago for a STEAL price with low miles on it.. .if I knew what I know today... who knows
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Take in consideration, that I have the S Type as a loaner, so I'm not familiar with the car.
Regarding the sound : the car tries to "predict" when I'm going faster, by automatically pumping the volume. My Porsche 911 had this, but I could select the intensitiy of the increase or even turn this feature off alltogheter. In the Jaguar, it sucks pretty much - because it tries to guess what speed I will end with, not the current - for example, I'm doing 50-60, overtake a car, being more generous with the gas pedal and it just screams the radio ... its annoying. Specially if I'm just overtaking and then resuming my normal speed - he thinks that I'm going to hit 150 , so he pumps the radio to match the noise the cabin would have at 150 but... I'm not. I just did 60->80 to overtake, then back to 60 ish.
Everytime I turn off the car, an english ladie says "Goodbye". A bit cheesy
Regarding the sound : the car tries to "predict" when I'm going faster, by automatically pumping the volume. My Porsche 911 had this, but I could select the intensitiy of the increase or even turn this feature off alltogheter. In the Jaguar, it sucks pretty much - because it tries to guess what speed I will end with, not the current - for example, I'm doing 50-60, overtake a car, being more generous with the gas pedal and it just screams the radio ... its annoying. Specially if I'm just overtaking and then resuming my normal speed - he thinks that I'm going to hit 150 , so he pumps the radio to match the noise the cabin would have at 150 but... I'm not. I just did 60->80 to overtake, then back to 60 ish.
Everytime I turn off the car, an english ladie says "Goodbye". A bit cheesy
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While my command of the English is not by any means exemplary, I did quite well in the 14 years I worked in London ![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I can't find it - and I'm quite tech savvy ; also , the menu system on the S type is pretty straightfoward. if I go to MENU, there are just a few options.
Regarding the Goodbye message, read below
Regarding the Goodbye message, I figured it out - the dealership fitted a very cheesy Bluetooth system - and its indeed the system that "says" goodbye...
As I said, I find it odd that I do not see anywhere in the menus to adjust it or turn it off - together with the fact that the Jaguar S Type System menus are quite "shallow" or with lack of submenus. Not a bad point here, I find it pleasing that is so simple and straightfoward.
What does annoy me its the sudden bump in volume - specially because it seems to be linked either to the system trying to antecipate the speed and/or RPM - if I do a kickdown ( mild ) , it goes up 1500 or 2000 rpm and the sound system goes from "ok" to "I'll blow your ears out" and I just went from 50 km/h to 65km/h ... its just ridiculous.
Maybe the car system (audio) is malfunction ? I dont know. Its really the only thing that annoys me in the car - the rest its different but very pleasing - even the "rudeness" of the gearbox suits the more releaxed pace of the car.
It is really a very good buy - and as I said, being cheap as chips, its a bargain to be had. And it DOES impress me that a Jaguar from a "so-so" era, after 130,000 miles ( and they seem "rough" miles..
) does not have a squeak or crack.. and that my brand new XJ is in the shop for a rattling roof....
oh the British irony....
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What does annoy me its the sudden bump in volume - specially because it seems to be linked either to the system trying to antecipate the speed and/or RPM - if I do a kickdown ( mild ) , it goes up 1500 or 2000 rpm and the sound system goes from "ok" to "I'll blow your ears out" and I just went from 50 km/h to 65km/h ... its just ridiculous.
Maybe the car system (audio) is malfunction ? I dont know. Its really the only thing that annoys me in the car - the rest its different but very pleasing - even the "rudeness" of the gearbox suits the more releaxed pace of the car.
It is really a very good buy - and as I said, being cheap as chips, its a bargain to be had. And it DOES impress me that a Jaguar from a "so-so" era, after 130,000 miles ( and they seem "rough" miles..
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Oops - apologies.
I use that volume feature and it doesn't do anything like what you describe so I think the one you have is faulty or something else is faulty and causing what occurs. I'm not sure what could, but it's a definite possibility.
I'll try to find the exact menu options on mine - I set it about 6 years ago and once happy have left it ever since.
hmm, think it's about page 19 of attached.
pah - it's too big!
OK:
MENU
Volume Preset
and AVC is the one that controls the feature (Automatic Volume Control).
I use that volume feature and it doesn't do anything like what you describe so I think the one you have is faulty or something else is faulty and causing what occurs. I'm not sure what could, but it's a definite possibility.
I'll try to find the exact menu options on mine - I set it about 6 years ago and once happy have left it ever since.
hmm, think it's about page 19 of attached.
pah - it's too big!
OK:
MENU
Volume Preset
and AVC is the one that controls the feature (Automatic Volume Control).
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What does annoy me its the sudden bump in volume - specially because it seems to be linked either to the system trying to antecipate the speed and/or RPM - if I do a kickdown ( mild ) , it goes up 1500 or 2000 rpm and the sound system goes from "ok" to "I'll blow your ears out" and I just went from 50 km/h to 65km/h ... its just ridiculous.
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Oops - apologies.
I use that volume feature and it doesn't do anything like what you describe so I think the one you have is faulty or something else is faulty and causing what occurs. I'm not sure what could, but it's a definite possibility.
I'll try to find the exact menu options on mine - I set it about 6 years ago and once happy have left it ever since.
hmm, think it's about page 19 of attached.
pah - it's too big!
OK:
MENU
Volume Preset
and AVC is the one that controls the feature (Automatic Volume Control).
I use that volume feature and it doesn't do anything like what you describe so I think the one you have is faulty or something else is faulty and causing what occurs. I'm not sure what could, but it's a definite possibility.
I'll try to find the exact menu options on mine - I set it about 6 years ago and once happy have left it ever since.
hmm, think it's about page 19 of attached.
pah - it's too big!
OK:
MENU
Volume Preset
and AVC is the one that controls the feature (Automatic Volume Control).
Again, its a loaner car so I can't be bothered - will let them know.
And in the MENU, I do not have VOLUME PRESET. When pressing menu, it goes to SYSTEM SETTINGS , VOLUME SETTINGS ( the most imbecile setting of them all - it goes to the... erm... volume number.... ) and LOGO. No AVC or anything like that.
As I said, its a pretty straightfoward menu, so I suspect that the bluetooth thing that the dealer install is doing some strange things to the audio system.
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