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Old 06-30-2016, 09:13 AM
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Default i need help, my 2001 s-type steering locked want start

can anyone help me out but please use lamen terms im not a mechanic.
i own a 2001 3.0lt s-type i went to start it earlier the remote wouldn't unlock the doors and when i turned the ignition on it didnt turn over,want startand the steering wheel wouldn't unlock everything's powered up and as far as i know working except the central locking.
When you turn the key the dash reads "Steering column lock on". I have tried a new battery, replaced and the removed the fuse relating to steering #19 still nothing. Should i remove the ignition fuse?
It seems this is a common problem but no-one can tell me how to fix it.

Come on Jag owners please help me out
 
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It's rare, so rare I have no ideas other than studying workshop manual and electrical guide or finding any competent tech.
 
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Do you have any indication of power?

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Do you have any indication of power?

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thanks for the help Gus, it has full power and electrics everything except the engine and the central locking locks if you unlock the doors.I have tried a different fuuly charged battery and still nothing
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Originally Posted by JagV8
It's rare, so rare I have no ideas other than studying workshop manual and electrical guide or finding any competent tech.
gday JagV8 i'm not really prepared with the car specifics but i will include them tomorrow when i get the car home i had to leave it where it broke down and only came across the site earlier on looking for info and i'm glad i did it's a good site i will put my father onto it he's a jag nut he's had a 1962 or 7 mk10,a 1976 xj6,an s-type 2004 now he has an xj8 i think
 
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Originally Posted by bretted
It seems this is a common problem but no-one can tell me how to fix it.
It's not a common problem at all. Never heard of it.
 
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:08 PM
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Default mate i was only asking for help

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It's not a common problem at all. Never heard of it.
If i had any idea do you think i would be on here trying to find a fix, iv read quite a few searches on the same topic
 
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My surprise is your claim it's common. Had it been you'd find plenty of threads, typically with fixes.
 
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Could this be a fuse or exciter ring?

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My surprise is your claim it's common. Had it been you'd find plenty of threads, typically with fixes.
Exactly.
 
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Could this be a fuse or exciter ring?

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thanks for the help Gus i have swapped and then removed fuse#19 do you think it could be the ignition fuse and i will look up the exiter ring. cheers
 
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Working through the workshop manual etc is still my suggestion or better yet a tech.
 
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Hi Bretted
The reason the problem appears to be rare is that USA cars don't have the column lock and so don't get the problem (posted to me by a Jag Tech on the forum when originally looking for an answer)

You have the early model S Type, so what I did below should work without the tilt operation on the wheel. I don't mind not having tilt for a car that will reliably start.

It has been about two years without a problem starting.

"had this problem with my S type. The solution, for me, was to pull the 10 amp blue fuse. No. 19 in the fuse box near driver's feet. This will prevent the steering column lock from working and the car will start reliably. Pulling out fuse 19 won't effect any other electrics (other than the steering tilt mechanism).

Although this is only an interim repair it is better than the intermittent non start issue, and for me it is a permanent answer until someone comes up with a definitive answer to the problem."

Good luck and post back if you find a complete solution.
 
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Smile Steering locked

Had the same problem with my 4 litre s type - steering column locked on dash, all controls working, but engine wouldn't turn over at all. When I connected to a diagnostic machine - Autel Maxidiag - it gave a code P1280 (I think from memory) - theft mode detected, engine disabled.

Like you I spent hours trawling the web, reading the manuals, etc. Eventually I called out an auto locksmith who cut two new keys and paired them to the car. It turned out that the key had lost the pairing with the car and the immobiliser was kicking in each time, exacerbated by my pulling the fuses (19, etc) as I had read about in the forums.

It took him about ten minutes and cost me £120 for the two new keys, but all is now fine and the car is back on the road!

Sounds like this could be your problem too!

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Thanks Rob
It is great to hear a definitive answer for this problem. This will help a few people.

I wonder whether it is possible to re "pair" the old keys.

But I will look into pairing two new keys to replace my one old (slightly bent) key.

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This indicates the PATS system is not happy. Anti-Theft system.

What is the red light on the top of the dash up by the base of the windshield doing?

Read what the different flashes mean.
Report back what you find.
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Originally Posted by Paul792
Hi Bretted
The reason the problem appears to be rare is that USA cars don't have the column lock
Not quite sure what is meant by this. What column lock is on your cars that N. Am cars don't have?
 
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Not quite sure what is meant by this. What column lock is on your cars that N. Am cars don't have?
S-Types imported into the U.S DON'T HAVE COLUMN LOCKS (you can turn the steering wheel with the key removed from the ignition lock barrel).
The PATS is all that keeps the car from being stolen.

If you install a NEW INST PK you will have the option 'COLUMN LOCK FITTED'?
If you answer YES to a U.S. imported car the display will have a column lock fault FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no way to change it once the question has been answered. We were warned of this by Jaguar North America. They would NOT pay for a 'nother-new' INST PK if you screwed up with the installation configuration.

The INST PK is where the X200 stores the Key Transponder codes.
Sometimes 'electronic-things' FORGET??

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Originally Posted by motorcarman
S-Types imported into the U.S DON'T HAVE COLUMN LOCKS (you can turn the steering wheel with the key removed from the ignition lock barrel).
Possibly this is another difference between US and Canadian spec cars? I'm quite sure my steering wheel is locked once the key is removed. Or I'm confused again.

In any case, it doesn't help the OP.
 
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