Inherited NA S type with a bunch of issues
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Inherited NA S type with a bunch of issues
Ok 2004 S Type
6 codes stored
Has a pretty significant coolant leak somewhere.
Has been sitting for a couple of years,
So far
Replaced the battery,
Flushed and filled coolant,
Flushed fuel system
Replaced brake fluid,
Read stored codes
P0122,0222,0327,1000,1254,1647
So I have a TPS issue and O2 sensor that is bad.
I pulled the throttle body off, cleaned it, the TPS, and the MAF.
Still getting the reduced performance warning, won't rev past 2500
First time diving into a Jag, usually it is domestic US cars and E39 BMW's
Any help,would be appreciated.
I am on Guam so I can't get the re flash.
6 codes stored
Has a pretty significant coolant leak somewhere.
Has been sitting for a couple of years,
So far
Replaced the battery,
Flushed and filled coolant,
Flushed fuel system
Replaced brake fluid,
Read stored codes
P0122,0222,0327,1000,1254,1647
So I have a TPS issue and O2 sensor that is bad.
I pulled the throttle body off, cleaned it, the TPS, and the MAF.
Still getting the reduced performance warning, won't rev past 2500
First time diving into a Jag, usually it is domestic US cars and E39 BMW's
Any help,would be appreciated.
I am on Guam so I can't get the re flash.
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Did you clear them and then which come(s) back first / quickly? Ignore P1000 for now.
The TB is a high precision device I would advise against messing with so hope you've been very gentle and careful. Were you getting the TPS codes before you touched it? And still get them after?
It's tough to check wiring so people tend to just change an O2 sensor. You've not much hope of good progress if any's bad.
The TB is a high precision device I would advise against messing with so hope you've been very gentle and careful. Were you getting the TPS codes before you touched it? And still get them after?
It's tough to check wiring so people tend to just change an O2 sensor. You've not much hope of good progress if any's bad.
Last edited by JagV8; 07-30-2015 at 04:49 AM.
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Did you clear them and then which come(s) back first / quickly? Ignore P1000 for now.
The TB is a high precision device I would advise against messing with so hope you've been very gentle and careful. Were you getting the TPS codes before you touched it?
Yes, I am a machinist so I can do delicate, going to take it apart again and research the denso part numbers to get another source.
And still get them after?
Yes, p1254, then the rest shortly after.
It's tough to check wiring so people tend to just change an O2 sensor. You've not much hope of good progress if any's bad.
The TB is a high precision device I would advise against messing with so hope you've been very gentle and careful. Were you getting the TPS codes before you touched it?
Yes, I am a machinist so I can do delicate, going to take it apart again and research the denso part numbers to get another source.
And still get them after?
Yes, p1254, then the rest shortly after.
It's tough to check wiring so people tend to just change an O2 sensor. You've not much hope of good progress if any's bad.
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so p0122 is low volt circuit 1 on the TP
P0222 is low volts circuit 2 on the TP
P0327 is bad knock sensor.
P1254 is limp home bad spring on the TP
Do I need to pull the ECM and send it stateside for the reflash?
Replace the throttle position sensor?
What about the throttle pedal? Do those go bad and cause things like this?
I had an issue similar to this with a Chevrolet Impala. New throttle pedal fixed it.
P0222 is low volts circuit 2 on the TP
P0327 is bad knock sensor.
P1254 is limp home bad spring on the TP
Do I need to pull the ECM and send it stateside for the reflash?
Replace the throttle position sensor?
What about the throttle pedal? Do those go bad and cause things like this?
I had an issue similar to this with a Chevrolet Impala. New throttle pedal fixed it.
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ok looks like I am looking at the pcm first, easier to see right off the bat.
this thing has not been a DD for 3-4 years, trying to get it back to daily driver shape... drive it for a few months then pass it off as I leave the lovely island of guam.
also dealing with a BMW that keeps blowing a fuse that covers central locking, power mirrors, and the power windows... I love electrical issues!
why couldn't it be a vacuum leak?
this thing has not been a DD for 3-4 years, trying to get it back to daily driver shape... drive it for a few months then pass it off as I leave the lovely island of guam.
also dealing with a BMW that keeps blowing a fuse that covers central locking, power mirrors, and the power windows... I love electrical issues!
why couldn't it be a vacuum leak?
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For what it's worth, I just cured a whole lot of stops and no starts on an S Type yesterday with just a tie wrap on the wiring plug to the throttle motor. It didn't throw any codes at all, but would not start every time. The only indicator is while cranking over the sound of the starter would change because the closed throttle was preventing compression in the motor. It would sound like it was free spinning, which it was.
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fly by wire throttle is an electronic pedal, giving the throttle body motor throttle angle. throttle position sensor tells pcm if the motor and pedal are in sync.
I understand the "how" now if I could just troubleshoot the "why isn't this jackwagon british POS not working?"
or some more things to look at. I am getting better with the whole electronic troubleshooting thing after getting almost everything on the BMW fixed.
Now on to some British engineering for headaches and a propensity to drink too much beer looking for an epiphany.
I understand the "how" now if I could just troubleshoot the "why isn't this jackwagon british POS not working?"
or some more things to look at. I am getting better with the whole electronic troubleshooting thing after getting almost everything on the BMW fixed.
Now on to some British engineering for headaches and a propensity to drink too much beer looking for an epiphany.
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All directions for cars are as if standing behind, facing forwards. (Same as sitting in the car except when you're looking backwards.)
P0327 seems to be a knock sensor-related fault - see workshop manual, free download, for all known causes, diagnosing, etc.
Many times the EPB gets upset due to a failing or low charge battery. Ensure good battery, recalibrate EPB.
The other common causes all relate to lack of EPB maintenance....
P0327 seems to be a knock sensor-related fault - see workshop manual, free download, for all known causes, diagnosing, etc.
Many times the EPB gets upset due to a failing or low charge battery. Ensure good battery, recalibrate EPB.
The other common causes all relate to lack of EPB maintenance....
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Been a minute since I have had time to play with the kitty,
Replaced the radiator cap. No more coolant leak.
Have a new knock sensor and don't know where to put it.
I have a Mac so the free download is useless to me.
After poking around a bit I discovered these bloody sensors are installed UNDER THE FREAKING INTAKE MANIFOLD!!!!!!
So since there is no DIY for this I have started to take pictures and Will attempt to write up a decent step by step plan with pictures on what to do.
Yeah I got the intake off, sensor swapped and remembered I didn't take pictures
No DIY for this one
Replaced the radiator cap. No more coolant leak.
Have a new knock sensor and don't know where to put it.
I have a Mac so the free download is useless to me.
After poking around a bit I discovered these bloody sensors are installed UNDER THE FREAKING INTAKE MANIFOLD!!!!!!
So since there is no DIY for this I have started to take pictures and Will attempt to write up a decent step by step plan with pictures on what to do.
Yeah I got the intake off, sensor swapped and remembered I didn't take pictures
No DIY for this one
Last edited by Toybreaker; 09-11-2015 at 03:52 AM.
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For what it's worth, to trouble shoot the knock sensor, you need not actually change it. Only disconnect the wires from it, and plug in the new one. You can wrap the new one in some rags and tie it off somewhere to see if that is indeed your issue. That is if your engine is really not knocking.