inner tie rod replacement W/Pics FAQ
#41
02-26-2012, 11:54 PM
Amadauss;
Your experience matches mine exactly and that's why I posted the picture of the inner tie rod tool. I still don't don't see how people change it without using it??
I have changed them on a number of cars and always needed the special tool so I finally purchased one. Yes make sure you get a range of sizes. Most tools come with at least 3 different crows-foot wrenches.
Was the new inner tie rod self supporting or does it flop down when you let go of it?
Thanks for reporting back!
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Your experience matches mine exactly and that's why I posted the picture of the inner tie rod tool. I still don't don't see how people change it without using it??
I have changed them on a number of cars and always needed the special tool so I finally purchased one. Yes make sure you get a range of sizes. Most tools come with at least 3 different crows-foot wrenches.
Was the new inner tie rod self supporting or does it flop down when you let go of it?
Thanks for reporting back!
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. Then there is plenty of room to get a pipe wrench and extension on it if necessary. My inner tie rod end tool has 5 different sizes. I believe Snap-On has a new, universal one that is supposed to clamp down on the housing and doesn't need adapters.
#42
02-27-2012, 06:50 AM
Amadauss;
Your experience matches mine exactly and that's why I posted the picture of the inner tie rod tool. I still don't don't see how people change it without using it??
I have changed them on a number of cars and always needed the special tool so I finally purchased one. Yes make sure you get a range of sizes. Most tools come with at least 3 different crows-foot wrenches.
Was the new inner tie rod self supporting or does it flop down when you let go of it?
Thanks for reporting back!
.
.
Your experience matches mine exactly and that's why I posted the picture of the inner tie rod tool. I still don't don't see how people change it without using it??
I have changed them on a number of cars and always needed the special tool so I finally purchased one. Yes make sure you get a range of sizes. Most tools come with at least 3 different crows-foot wrenches.
Was the new inner tie rod self supporting or does it flop down when you let go of it?
Thanks for reporting back!
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Plums, I edited my last response in that without a lift, and using that tool, it has to go straight in so the tire is in the way with it. Under the car with a lift, the tool would probably not be needed.
Thanks again to all for the help and support. Car rides great after having the alignment done yesterday.
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#43
07-27-2012, 05:52 PM
Usually the outer tie rods only go bad. Its a easy check. You put your hand on the joint and move the tire back and forth feeling for play. They pay .6 each side and .6 for both(thats nice isnt it
) plus alignment
remanned racks for jag are $300 w/core, $200 for lincoln ls w/core ( youll have electronic variable force rack, dont get one without)
if the outer joint is tight and theres movement then the inners are bad. If the inners are bad and the outers are good. I would still replace them because of mileage and its only part cost no added labor. Yes mtorcars has the inners for $65. Plus boots
) plus alignmentremanned racks for jag are $300 w/core, $200 for lincoln ls w/core ( youll have electronic variable force rack, dont get one without)
if the outer joint is tight and theres movement then the inners are bad. If the inners are bad and the outers are good. I would still replace them because of mileage and its only part cost no added labor. Yes mtorcars has the inners for $65. Plus boots
Now, I saw the replacement part - would they fail where they connect at the wheel hub assembly? Just curious as I was not expecting to hear the bad news today from my indy.
#44
07-28-2012, 09:36 AM
Let me update - that's what I get for trying to get my car properly alligned at Firestone - so I get the call this morning: "Sorry for having your car for 2 days but my mechanic made a mistake. You need the inner tie rod and you need the entire steering rack". My response: "Hands off my car, I'm getting it now and will bring it to a knowledgable mechanic, who will replace the inner tie rod with ease, thank you!".
I'm done w/ Firestone! They suck!
I'm done w/ Firestone! They suck!
#45
07-28-2012, 10:29 AM
Veteran Member
With the miles on your car I would bit the bullet and replace the rack. It comes with the inner tie rods anyway and the price is reasonable. Follow Brutal's suggestion and use the Lincoln LS rack. You might be surprised in how it drives after replacement.
Maybe purchase the rack and get someone to put it in?
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Maybe purchase the rack and get someone to put it in?
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#46
07-28-2012, 10:29 AM
I hope other members can give their opinion. But here goes my 2 cents:
I believe the inner tie rods can be interchanged from a Lincoln LS. Theres not too many places that sell S type inner tie rods, that is, the complete rack had to be purchased.
I found these on motorcars ltd:
Tie Rod End - TIEROD.STYPE.L
I believe the inner tie rods can be interchanged from a Lincoln LS. Theres not too many places that sell S type inner tie rods, that is, the complete rack had to be purchased.
I found these on motorcars ltd:
Tie Rod End - TIEROD.STYPE.L
I ordered the boot cover from MotorCars LTD as well.
I will report back once the parts are installed. I have used Moog parts in the past and have had good results with them.
#47
07-28-2012, 03:51 PM
Veteran Member
You won't see any cross reference between the S Type and the LS unless it's in the aftermarket. Ford tried real hard to keep everything separate. Just look at all the trouble they went to just to have separate Jaguar and Ford part numbers for the identical same part!
That is usually a big no-no in any manufacturing company.
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That is usually a big no-no in any manufacturing company.
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#48
07-28-2012, 05:18 PM
With the miles on your car I would bit the bullet and replace the rack. It comes with the inner tie rods anyway and the price is reasonable. Follow Brutal's suggestion and use the Lincoln LS rack. You might be surprised in how it drives after replacement.
Maybe purchase the rack and get someone to put it in?
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Maybe purchase the rack and get someone to put it in?
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That's why I was surprised with the inner tie rod diagnosis. I peeked under the car today and clearly the inner tie rod is toast. The other side has no issues whatsoever.
The road conditions in NJ/NYC are relentless.... riddled with potholes, etc..
I have the parts on order and will have them installed by my indy.
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