Intake Air Temperature Sensor code
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The misfire codes are due to bad maf screwing up fueling....the other code i would disregard for now....genuine denso maf could be as high as 300 depending on vendor.....but well worth it....as long as all is good with your intake piping and maf sealing point, everything points to maf....use the jepc online parts catalogue to get the maf part number.....every engine management sensor on an str is unique to an str....a lot of parts stores do not realize the huge difference in str and na vehicle parts....best to use jaguar specific vendors that know their stuff ....many members can attest to this, including myself, by learning the hard way
#22
All wrong
The misfire codes are due to bad maf screwing up fueling....the other code i would disregard for now....genuine denso maf could be as high as 300 depending on vendor.....but well worth it....as long as all is good with your intake piping and maf sealing point, everything points to maf....use the jepc online parts catalogue to get the maf part number.....every engine management sensor on an str is unique to an str....a lot of parts stores do not realize the huge difference in str and na vehicle parts....best to use jaguar specific vendors that know their stuff ....many members can attest to this, including myself, by learning the hard way
This is one main problem. Never even fired. Defect, faulty whatever the issue ****ed up a valve or retainer something. I’m getting 0 compression from the cylinder from which it came from. That cylinder will never fire again. Now it’s time to consider a rebuild or swap. Thank you all for your time. So much for that feeling of being hyped when you’re so close to getting a car you love fired up and running.
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This is one main problem. Never even fired. Defect, faulty whatever the issue ****ed up a valve or retainer something. I’m getting 0 compression from the cylinder from which it came from. That cylinder will never fire again. Now it’s time to consider a rebuild or swap. Thank you all for your time. So much for that feeling of being hyped when you’re so close to getting a car you love fired up and running.
oh crap . That is just the worst luck .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
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#25
Not giving up
oh crap . That is just the worst luck .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
#26
Is it possible to tag them somehow? Get there attention to see if they have any ideas? First i’ll follow Datspsorts suggestion.
#27
oh crap . That is just the worst luck .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
#28
oh crap . That is just the worst luck .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
ive seen this before . It’s gutting !
if I were you I would remove the cam cover . to find with a strait edge which valve is not closed flush with the other valves .
then remove (I suspect exhaust manifold) or intake if it’s that valve .
chances are the small electrode is stuck to the carbon on the back of the valve , holding the valve open .
using a bore scope also to see in there .
you may be able to dislodge the electrode with compressed air or implement .
and remove it with a magnet .
if the bore scope shows no sign of the valve contacting the piston . You should be good to just remove the peace and carry on .
may I ask what brand of spark plug that is so we can all avoid this ?
thanks .
#29
I suspect, as already suggested, that the broken off piece is holding a valve open.
You might want to acquire a borescope, or endoscope and have a look into the cylinder bore to try to ascertain if any damage has been done. For well under $100 you can get an endoscope that interfaces with your smartphone. If you work on cars,they can be very handy!
You might want to acquire a borescope, or endoscope and have a look into the cylinder bore to try to ascertain if any damage has been done. For well under $100 you can get an endoscope that interfaces with your smartphone. If you work on cars,they can be very handy!
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#30
S-type owner is right .
you need to check for damage and above all find the electrode and remove it .
do not start that engine until the piece is found and remove it !
the damage that little piece can cause could be un-repairable.
you need to read my last post and understand it .
And work methodically.
if it’s above you - then get it to a shop via truck or
trailer .
at the moment worst case for you would be a scratched bore and bent valve ,
And maybe removal of head required .
if you start the engine with that piece in there you could junk that very expensive engine .
don’t do it .
BTW sweet looking car .
you need to check for damage and above all find the electrode and remove it .
do not start that engine until the piece is found and remove it !
the damage that little piece can cause could be un-repairable.
you need to read my last post and understand it .
And work methodically.
if it’s above you - then get it to a shop via truck or
trailer .
at the moment worst case for you would be a scratched bore and bent valve ,
And maybe removal of head required .
if you start the engine with that piece in there you could junk that very expensive engine .
don’t do it .
BTW sweet looking car .
Last edited by Datsports; 10-10-2019 at 11:30 PM.
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#34
On the original airbox there is a wide open throttle flap that opens electronically when max throttle is used....you do not have this anymore, but there should still be a soleniod plugged in because the ecm still needs to see it....look for it, or a plug in with no where to go.....i still think you have a maf problem....can you post a couple photos of your intake setup
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Denso MAF***** I did the whole job myself minus the machined valve seat and decking and i’ll tell you... the placement of these bolts parts and hoses is a nightmare. now i feel i can tackle anything with the fact that she fired up first try. Just fine tuning now and fixing these old codes. I have learned a lot in the process.
#37
First off, great job on the repair....removing the head looks spooky.....getting everything back together and in the right place has got to be satisfying.....the only way i would know to get rid of the air filter code is to get a new or used solenoid, plug it in and tie it out of the way....i do not know enough about the wiring to say a jumper wire would do the same....i am thinking the 2 wires are 12 pos with key on and 12 volt neg switched by the ecm ...if that is the case, then a jumper will only short out....the solenoid may be a stand alone item or part of the main airbox body as far as availability goes.....check to find that out and go from there
#38
First off, great job on the repair....removing the head looks spooky.....getting everything back together and in the right place has got to be satisfying.....the only way i would know to get rid of the air filter code is to get a new or used solenoid, plug it in and tie it out of the way...i am thinking the 2 wires are 12 pos with key on and 12 volt neg switched by the ecm ...if that is the case, then a jumper will only short out....the solenoid may be a stand alone item or part of the main airbox body as far as availability goes.....check to find that out and go from there
there is no need to fix this code .
my car has had this code for 6+ years since the last owner stuck a pod on it .
it does not need repair . as some codes are for reference only ,--- / no mil / no restricted performance . no problem
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First off, great job on the repair....removing the head looks spooky.....getting everything back together and in the right place has got to be satisfying.....the only way i would know to get rid of the air filter code is to get a new or used solenoid, plug it in and tie it out of the way....i do not know enough about the wiring to say a jumper wire would do the same....i am thinking the 2 wires are 12 pos with key on and 12 volt neg switched by the ecm ...if that is the case, then a jumper will only short out....the solenoid may be a stand alone item or part of the main airbox body as far as availability goes.....check to find that out and go from there
#40
As for my car. She started first crank after the rebuild then died. So here’s where i am. Pulled the spark plugs i’m gonna be honest they were $3 NGKs that had the same gap the car needs. Tight on money after all this lol. They were wet with fuel? So they aren’t sparking or burning it off. Any ideas? All of them were. Dried them off still no spark. Thinking maybe I flooded just a little. Gonna let dry. Was gonna crank engine with plugs out as i did with one and saw a mist blow out. Starter is brand new, fuel pump hums when keys turned and spark plugs have fuel on them. So works clearly. So is that lean in term? Pressure regulator or what? I’m going to test my coils. But i don’t believe a car wouldn’t start because of a bad coil or two it would just shake violently depending. But maybe i do need higher sparking or hotter plugs?? could that be why it won’t burn or spark? instead of the really fine tip on the plug these are really thick and flat. But the car did crank first try ??? so confused there and cranked a couple times after but once it stalled the last time it won’t start again. I’m gonna charge battery too to make sure.
So going to test ignition coils, not sure what else from there. What would prevent a car from starting. There is now a denso MAF in the car. What sensors/parts would stop the car from turning over when it’s right there. It’s got fuel. not sure how much less or a lot but it’s there. Spark may be a issue from those plugs, i just don’t know.. i’m living breathing sleeping this car, sweating, bleeding, and don’t wanna say crying.... yet... but what do you guys think. You all have been very helpful it is appreciative.
So going to test ignition coils, not sure what else from there. What would prevent a car from starting. There is now a denso MAF in the car. What sensors/parts would stop the car from turning over when it’s right there. It’s got fuel. not sure how much less or a lot but it’s there. Spark may be a issue from those plugs, i just don’t know.. i’m living breathing sleeping this car, sweating, bleeding, and don’t wanna say crying.... yet... but what do you guys think. You all have been very helpful it is appreciative.