Jags so cheap? Why? Will the new XF affect the S Type in terms of depreciation
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Jags so cheap? Why? Will the new XF affect the S Type in terms of depreciation
Why are Jags so dirt cheap ? Is it because of Ford and its known past problems ? Im purchasing an S-Type R with about 50K miles I was afraid of the car with 70K on the clock. So will the new XF make the S-Type R value plunge dramatically ? These cars depreciate so fast its not funny. I change my whips once every 6 months sometimes a year, so this is my concern. Im gonna get a car at wholesale auction price and I want to know will the S-Type R be a good resale in the next 6 months ? Please help.
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Don't worry if your getting the wholesale price on it (given its in good shape with no problems) and its a price that also has the mileage taken into account you'll have no problems getting what you paid for it out of it with tax title and plates...If you don't mind me asking what is the wholesale price at an auction for that particular car, year, model and options? How many miles will you put on the car as well as this does affect the price...
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Current Wholesale Manhiem Prices
03 Jag S-Type R
Maroom/Crem 10K Miles Navi$21700
Silver/Creme 42K Miles Navi $18600
Charc/Creme 52K Miles Navi$17800
Charc/Crem 62K Miles Navi $16300
Charc/Grey 63K No Nav$15500
Charc/Black 69K Miles Navi$14500
Black/Black 82K MilesNavi$12900
White/Creme 95K Miles Navi $11500
03 Jag S-Type R
Maroom/Crem 10K Miles Navi$21700
Silver/Creme 42K Miles Navi $18600
Charc/Creme 52K Miles Navi$17800
Charc/Crem 62K Miles Navi $16300
Charc/Grey 63K No Nav$15500
Charc/Black 69K Miles Navi$14500
Black/Black 82K MilesNavi$12900
White/Creme 95K Miles Navi $11500
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Can you hook me up with one?
If you were thinking of getting the car to hang onto it I'd get a newer 04 with under 50k miles and it should still be under factory warranty!
Which of the above are you getting?
IMO this is how I'd rate the price for future sale in a year...keep in mind this is my thoughts...you don't have to pay for plates though you probably have a dealer plate that covers it right? I'm sure your taxes work out differently don't they?
Maroom/Crem 10K Miles Navi$21700 ---are you kidding me?
Silver/Creme 42K Miles Navi $18600 ---good price
Charc/Creme 52K Miles Navi$17800 ---good price
Charc/Crem 62K Miles Navi $16300 ---good price
Charc/Grey 63K No Nav$15500 ---excellent price
Charc/Black 69K Miles Navi$14500 ---holy crap
Black/Black 82K MilesNavi$12900 ---oh my Goodness
White/Creme 95K Miles Navi $11500 ---are you kidding me?
If you were thinking of getting the car to hang onto it I'd get a newer 04 with under 50k miles and it should still be under factory warranty!
Which of the above are you getting?
IMO this is how I'd rate the price for future sale in a year...keep in mind this is my thoughts...you don't have to pay for plates though you probably have a dealer plate that covers it right? I'm sure your taxes work out differently don't they?
Maroom/Crem 10K Miles Navi$21700 ---are you kidding me?
Silver/Creme 42K Miles Navi $18600 ---good price
Charc/Creme 52K Miles Navi$17800 ---good price
Charc/Crem 62K Miles Navi $16300 ---good price
Charc/Grey 63K No Nav$15500 ---excellent price
Charc/Black 69K Miles Navi$14500 ---holy crap
Black/Black 82K MilesNavi$12900 ---oh my Goodness
White/Creme 95K Miles Navi $11500 ---are you kidding me?
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Im not a dealer, but there are different carlots that will sell the car at $500 above the wholesale prices I just posted. These prices are auction prices. Im going to pick one of these cars in the next 2 weeks, before Christmas im hoping or after. Def before the New Years. I sold my 03C230 Benz and my 04 CLK Convertible to get a Jag S-Type R.
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How long do you think you'll hang onto it and the mileage on it? Can you get an 04?
If i were in your case I'd do either of the top 2 or the charc/black leather 69k and say when you sold that one next year you should be able to get about 19k for it (IMO) with say 12k miles more on it...unless the s took a hit and dropped but I'd say it'd be worth that...
I'd try for a 04 or 05 though and see those prices!
If i were in your case I'd do either of the top 2 or the charc/black leather 69k and say when you sold that one next year you should be able to get about 19k for it (IMO) with say 12k miles more on it...unless the s took a hit and dropped but I'd say it'd be worth that...
I'd try for a 04 or 05 though and see those prices!
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this is not my neck of the woods but i'm aware of the all-time low prices for Jaguar from the current models down to 1968 when the first XJ-6 was sold.
The only Jaguars holding their value are the XK models. They sell for around $135,000.00 in choice condition. E-types, (XKE) and the old Saloons (Sedans) are going up slowly.
One reasonthe S and X types are so low isthat they have gotten a reputation for being a Ford Taurus. Don't ask me why, but Ford's influence has run Jaguar to the ground. And now that Jaguarison the ground, Ford wants to sell them,in other wordskicking them when they're down on the ground.Another reason is the Leasing Market. People want to unload their cars in 18 months or less because they want to have a new car every year, driving prices down. A Jaguar is for keeps.
My advice? don't buy it, you will not get your money back, which is kind of unrealistic with any new car anyway. Buy an Infiniti if you want to flip it. Jaguars are for keeps.
I've owned my 1984 XJ-6 for 17 years now. And I bought a 1965 S type (the REAL S type), 3 years ago. Do I want to sell them? No way.I love those cars.They are fine cars, the likes of which you can't get nowadays. Hand-assembled, not robot-assembled. A robot has no character, only speed.Themodern philosophy of "we gots to move these, refrigeraters..." is killing everything in sight.
Good luck.
The only Jaguars holding their value are the XK models. They sell for around $135,000.00 in choice condition. E-types, (XKE) and the old Saloons (Sedans) are going up slowly.
One reasonthe S and X types are so low isthat they have gotten a reputation for being a Ford Taurus. Don't ask me why, but Ford's influence has run Jaguar to the ground. And now that Jaguarison the ground, Ford wants to sell them,in other wordskicking them when they're down on the ground.Another reason is the Leasing Market. People want to unload their cars in 18 months or less because they want to have a new car every year, driving prices down. A Jaguar is for keeps.
My advice? don't buy it, you will not get your money back, which is kind of unrealistic with any new car anyway. Buy an Infiniti if you want to flip it. Jaguars are for keeps.
I've owned my 1984 XJ-6 for 17 years now. And I bought a 1965 S type (the REAL S type), 3 years ago. Do I want to sell them? No way.I love those cars.They are fine cars, the likes of which you can't get nowadays. Hand-assembled, not robot-assembled. A robot has no character, only speed.Themodern philosophy of "we gots to move these, refrigeraters..." is killing everything in sight.
Good luck.
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Hey jose did you read his post? He's getting the cars at auction prices...that can generally mean up to say a $10,000 difference between what he'd pay and what he'd see at the dealership...more than likely though most of the cars he posted are about 5k below dealer lots prices...
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ALL highend cars lose tremendous value quickly. Look at the highend MB and BMW. They can't hold their prices. You want to see the bottom fall out of something, buy a Lambo or Ferreri. High buyers buy no cars, we buy used highend cars and can't afford what they are worth. If we could afford their value, we would buy new! Price a 4 year old Rolls or Bentley!
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Can you hook me up with one?
If you were thinking of getting the car to hang onto it I'd get a newer 04 with under 50k miles and it should still be under factory warranty!
Which of the above are you getting?
IMO this is how I'd rate the price for future sale in a year...keep in mind this is my thoughts...you don't have to pay for plates though you probably have a dealer plate that covers it right? I'm sure your taxes work out differently don't they?
Maroom/Crem 10K Miles Navi$21700 ---are you kidding me?
Silver/Creme 42K Miles Navi $18600 ---good price
Charc/Creme 52K Miles Navi$17800 ---good price
Charc/Crem 62K Miles Navi $16300 ---good price
Charc/Grey 63K No Nav$15500 ---excellent price
Charc/Black 69K Miles Navi$14500 ---holy crap
Black/Black 82K MilesNavi$12900 ---oh my Goodness
White/Creme 95K Miles Navi $11500 ---are you kidding me?
Can you hook me up with one?
If you were thinking of getting the car to hang onto it I'd get a newer 04 with under 50k miles and it should still be under factory warranty!
Which of the above are you getting?
IMO this is how I'd rate the price for future sale in a year...keep in mind this is my thoughts...you don't have to pay for plates though you probably have a dealer plate that covers it right? I'm sure your taxes work out differently don't they?
Maroom/Crem 10K Miles Navi$21700 ---are you kidding me?
Silver/Creme 42K Miles Navi $18600 ---good price
Charc/Creme 52K Miles Navi$17800 ---good price
Charc/Crem 62K Miles Navi $16300 ---good price
Charc/Grey 63K No Nav$15500 ---excellent price
Charc/Black 69K Miles Navi$14500 ---holy crap
Black/Black 82K MilesNavi$12900 ---oh my Goodness
White/Creme 95K Miles Navi $11500 ---are you kidding me?
THAT'S NOT FARE(and yes I'm whinning)!
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Amazing prices! Now I understand how I got what I considered a good deal from Texascarsdirect. They bought my car at auction fo apparently way less than I paid them. I'm not complaining mind you, I'm happy with my purchase. But dang those are some good prices!
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Yeah Texas Direct has a S-type R on Ebay for $19780 with 68K miles, they paid under $15K for the car. Then someone comes along offers them $18K + and make a large profit. I seen 6 S-Type Rs with under 65K miles sold for under $16500. 2 Cars had exactly 62K miles and sold for $16200 even. One car had 70K miles and I verified with Jag for CPO coverage and sold for $14500. These things are dirt cheap. I can get the auction prices plus $500 profit on top for these cars.
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And you can even make sure they have warranty? What about purchase the warranty before you'd hand it over to us?
Yeah I know bigs ain't that crazy? Sounds like you might have an str sooner rather than later eh?!!!
Yeah I know bigs ain't that crazy? Sounds like you might have an str sooner rather than later eh?!!!
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You can make sure if the car has some Jaguar Select Edition Warranty by calling the Jaguar Toll Free number and give the VIN to the customer service rep. You can also find out how many times it has had service done, or any issues on the car, if you take the vin to your dealership. Yes these cars are cheap. You can get one at wholesale price easy, with the right negociation.