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Old 08-01-2013 | 03:36 PM
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So I recently bought a jaguar 2001 s-type and I imagined the car to be working fine as it didn't have this kind of problem 2-3 days ago.

Just today the battery of the car has died or at least the vehicle wont even start up once the key is placed in the ignition, so I'd imagine it to be a battery issue. I was able to jump start the car using my dads dodge caravan and it did work when I drove it, but afterwards when I parked the car I couldn't turn it on again. After I tryed to jump start it again an alarm went off and caught me by surprise... AND still the vehicle wouldn't turn on. So maybe it's a dead battery issue?

This had me worried as I read on so many posts and websites that people have had this problem and couldn't find a definite fix. I am buying a new battery but I'm worried if I replace this one with my old one and have the same issue I'd have to buy a new battery again.. I have never had an issue where a car's batter dies out in 2 to 3 days for my previous cars.

Does anyone know if this is even fixable? I love my jag and really don't want to part ways with it so soon.

P.S. I noticed the steering wheel does an electronic self adjustment, does anyone know what the mechanism is called? And whether it drains the battery?
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 03:53 PM
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Welcome to the forum cubera,

After the flat battery incident:

1. did you fully charge the battery?
AND
2. if you did and it went flat again, have you had it tested?

Check and eliminate the obvious possibility of a failing battery before assuming it's something more serious.

Your steering sounds to be set to Entry/Exit mode:

Jaguar s-type 2001 battery issues..-s-type-steering-column.jpg

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As you can see, this function can be switched off if you don't want to use it.

When you get a minute, please follow this link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...-intro-must-5/ to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST section and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.

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Old 08-01-2013 | 04:02 PM
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Hi and welcome to the forum Cubera. When you get chance, pop into the "New member area" to introduce yourself.

Now your problem. Before you shell out for a new battery, try fully charging the one you have and try again. These cars do not like the slightest drop in voltage.

If you have auto headlights, switch them off. The telescopic steering mechanism is controlled by the switch on the side of the steering column, if you don't like it , switch it off.

You may well have a parasitic drain on the battery but until you have a fully charged one we can't start to find it.

One more tip, when you lock the car, use the remote and deadlock it, ie press the lock button twice within 3 seconds. This will effectively put the car to sleep and reduce the drain on the battery.

That should be enough to be going on with.
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GGG
Welcome to the forum cubera,

After the flat battery incident:

1. did you fully charge the battery?
AND
2. if you did and it went flat again, have you had it tested?

Check and eliminate the obvious possibility of a failing battery before assuming it's something more serious.

Your steering sounds to be set to Entry/Exit mode:

Attachment 49833

(click on the image to enlarge it)

As you can see, this function can be switched off if you don't want to use it.

When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST section and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some museful advice about posting to the forum.

Graham
1. No I didn't fully charge the battery due to the annoying alarm which turns on during the charge, annoying my neighbours. Is there a way to turn off this alarm?

2. I haven't had it tested yet. Someone in my family is close to a mechanic (by close I mean friends and such) so they said they would check it out. I don't have a battery tester or a multi-meter to test out the battery either

Also I kinda liked the steeringwheel feature so I wanted to keep it on but wasn't sure if it was draining alot of battery power or not. I was wondering what the electronic mechanism itself was called. For example some doors have slang terms such as "suicide doors", "butterfly doors" or some kinda similar. Maybe an automatic steering wheel adjuster? or something similar to that?
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 04:42 PM
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Hey Jim,

I appreciate the quick reply. The one annoying thing I'm facing right now is when I begin to charge the car my cars alarm goes off, but I'll try to do what you have stated.

Originally Posted by jimbov8
Hi and welcome to the forum Cubera. When you get chance, pop into the "New member area" to introduce yourself.

Now your problem. Before you shell out for a new battery, try fully charging the one you have and try again. These cars do not like the slightest drop in voltage.

If you have auto headlights, switch them off. The telescopic steering mechanism is controlled by the switch on the side of the steering column, if you don't like it , switch it off.

You may well have a parasitic drain on the battery but until you have a fully charged one we can't start to find it.

One more tip, when you lock the car, use the remote and deadlock it, ie press the lock button twice within 3 seconds. This will effectively put the car to sleep and reduce the drain on the battery.

That should be enough to be going on with.
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 04:45 PM
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You've got 2 choices in this case. Remove the battery to charge it but make sure you have the radio code before you do, or. remove the fuse for the security system or horns and then carry on.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbov8
You've got 2 choices in this case. Remove the battery to charge it but make sure you have the radio code before you do, or. remove the fuse for the security system or horns and then carry on.

Hope this helps.
I was just wondering what the radio code was used for? I'm sorry to ask but I'm kind of a newbie
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 05:11 PM
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The Code Unlocks The Radio If Power Is Cut ..Like When Charging Or Worse..Theft
 

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Old 08-01-2013 | 05:18 PM
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I don't think the alarm should sound when charging (*). Some problem with the way you're connecting the charger or the charger?

(*) mine doesn't and there really aren't lots of posts from people who've said it happens
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 05:29 PM
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I Had To Remove The Battery Because Of The Alarm. Plus It's A Good Idea With All The Electronics In The Trunk..You Don't Want An Accidental Short In There..
 
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Old 08-01-2013 | 06:14 PM
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Let's step through this.

1. remove or disconnect the battery to charge it unless you have a CTEK or similar charger which can safely be connected with the battery in place.

www.ctek.com

2. you have a UK spec vehicle so you will have a coded radio. The code will be lost when you disconnect the battery. If your vehicle has the document set, look for the code card with the 4-Number code for your radio. Here is an old one of mine as an example:

Jaguar s-type 2001 battery issues..-radio-security-code-card-.jpg

3. If you don't have the code, a call to any Jaguar Dealer will usually get the code free of charge if you approach them nicely! VIN is normally required as proof of ownership.

4. if the alarm has gone off, it will stop when the battery is removed but will go off again when the recharged battery is reconnected. Disarm it with the remote.

5. Jaguars are very sensitive to battery condition and a failing battery will throw up all kinds of electrical gremlins.

6. the Entry/Exit feature on the steering wheel won't drain the battery but follow Jim's advice about locking the vehicle to put it into 'sleep' mode and prevent battery drain.

Graham
 
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Old 08-03-2013 | 01:21 AM
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Sure sounds like a low battery, or alternator. Mine didn't give any warning, just died as I was driving. Luckily only a block from my home. Turned out to be the alternator.
 
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Old 08-03-2013 | 12:31 PM
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I appreciate the detailed response but I found out that the battery was flat which is good news. Hopefully it wasn't flat from heavy drainage. The previous owner claimed it was a year old so I'm hoping that's why the battery died out. Even so I don't always trust the previous owners.

I had the battery replaced and the car seems to be working perfectly fine as I went for an hour test drive. I wasn't asked to place a radio code so, is that a good thing or bad?

For now I'll give the car a good 3-9 days before I assume its a drainage issue and see if the car is still running by then.

One thing I'd like to mention is that I found a battery connector cable dangling out in the trunk near the battery

If you want to see how it looks this image should help:
http://store.3drobotics.com/spree/pr...jpg?1354322573

Honestly, what do I do with it? For now I temporarily ducked taped it to the side so it couldn't touch the battery. I read on somewhere on the forum your suppose to do something with it.


Originally Posted by GGG
Let's step through this.

1. remove or disconnect the battery to charge it unless you have a CTEK or similar charger which can safely be connected with the battery in place.

www.ctek.com

2. you have a UK spec vehicle so you will have a coded radio. The code will be lost when you disconnect the battery. If your vehicle has the document set, look for the code card with the 4-Number code for your radio. Here is an old one of mine as an example:

Attachment 49838

3. If you don't have the code, a call to any Jaguar Dealer will usually get the code free of charge if you approach them nicely! VIN is normally required as proof of ownership.

4. if the alarm has gone off, it will stop when the battery is removed but will go off again when the recharged battery is reconnected. Disarm it with the remote.

5. Jaguars are very sensitive to battery condition and a failing battery will throw up all kinds of electrical gremlins.

6. the Entry/Exit feature on the steering wheel won't drain the battery but follow Jim's advice about locking the vehicle to put it into 'sleep' mode and prevent battery drain.

Graham
 
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Old 08-03-2013 | 12:35 PM
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Glad to hear you're back up and running.
 
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Old 08-03-2013 | 12:37 PM
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How long was it until your battery died out? As in, did it take a couple of months? days?

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Sure sounds like a low battery, or alternator. Mine didn't give any warning, just died as I was driving. Luckily only a block from my home. Turned out to be the alternator.
 
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Old 08-03-2013 | 12:39 PM
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Hopefully it stays that way for a couple of months. I guess I'll find out in 10 days.

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Glad to hear you're back up and running.
 
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Old 08-03-2013 | 12:41 PM
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After I replaced the battery I didn't have to re-input a radio code as the radio and everything was still working. Is there a reason why I didn't have to re-input it?

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The Code Unlocks The Radio If Power Is Cut ..Like When Charging Or Worse..Theft
 
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Old 08-04-2013 | 09:11 AM
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Don't know what THAT cable is - I was expecting the transit relay one - but keep it safely away from anything powered (same for the transit one).
 
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Old 08-05-2013 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cubera
How long was it until your battery died out? As in, did it take a couple of months? days?
I didn't notice a battery drain, the car just died without warning.
 
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