Jaguar S-Type 2005 V6 3.0 - Airbag code 19 & high idle rev
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Hello, I recently bought a Jaguar and it's in great condition, doesn't have a lot of scratches only 80.000 miles on it. The interior looks like new.
The only thing is the I have the airbag light on, it flicks error code 19. Which is the steering wheel?
I'm not sure but so far I've found on this forum that's the Clock springs fault.
I found a thread here https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...val-faq-61287/
Should I disassemble it and clean it up with contact spray etc?
Another thing is the revs are a bit high, my friend told me for an automatic (I've never had an automatic before all manual before this car) the car shouldn't start going after you release the break but only when you hit the gas. However the car does start rolling when I release the break and it's a pain in the *** at stop lights. He also told me it's not healthy for the car to be shifted from D to N all the time.
Thank you very much.
Btw I got this car key for key from a guy that wanted a family car.
So he got a crappy Skoda Octavia 2006, and I got a beast
The only thing is the I have the airbag light on, it flicks error code 19. Which is the steering wheel?
I'm not sure but so far I've found on this forum that's the Clock springs fault.
I found a thread here https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...val-faq-61287/
Should I disassemble it and clean it up with contact spray etc?
Another thing is the revs are a bit high, my friend told me for an automatic (I've never had an automatic before all manual before this car) the car shouldn't start going after you release the break but only when you hit the gas. However the car does start rolling when I release the break and it's a pain in the *** at stop lights. He also told me it's not healthy for the car to be shifted from D to N all the time.
Thank you very much.
Btw I got this car key for key from a guy that wanted a family car.
So he got a crappy Skoda Octavia 2006, and I got a beast
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Good swap!!
You're too new here to be able - yet - to download the free stuff such as JTIS which has the codes PDF, including flash codes.
19 is driver side airbag circuit fault so clockspring is a suspect
For acronyms see my sig.
Don't shift D to N. Either use brake or EPB.
Yes, autos pull a little so can roll. It's the effect of the TC.
Revs - well, how high are they? If you get a cheap OBD tool like elm327 you can read the true value or if you use ETM (see page below then use Search on full name) I think it's somewhere on there. I really do think the elm327 is fantastic value.
You're too new here to be able - yet - to download the free stuff such as JTIS which has the codes PDF, including flash codes.
19 is driver side airbag circuit fault so clockspring is a suspect
For acronyms see my sig.
Don't shift D to N. Either use brake or EPB.
Yes, autos pull a little so can roll. It's the effect of the TC.
Revs - well, how high are they? If you get a cheap OBD tool like elm327 you can read the true value or if you use ETM (see page below then use Search on full name) I think it's somewhere on there. I really do think the elm327 is fantastic value.
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I already have all of of it including JTIS.
I'm a quick learner don't worry.
So the best bet would be the clockspring I'll take a look at it today, I want to polish it a bit and wax it anyway.
Alright, I'll use the brake or EPB from now on.
Thank you very much for the quick reply.
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The Skoda Octavia was good too, but too much family. It did have great economy as it was Disel and 1.9.
But it's nothing compared to Jaguar.
I'm a quick learner don't worry.
So the best bet would be the clockspring I'll take a look at it today, I want to polish it a bit and wax it anyway.
Alright, I'll use the brake or EPB from now on.
Thank you very much for the quick reply.
Here's come pictures if you're interested
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The Skoda Octavia was good too, but too much family. It did have great economy as it was Disel and 1.9.
But it's nothing compared to Jaguar.
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Doesn't look anything seriously wrong!
Try it with a/c (climate control) off. Probably drops 50 or so. What you have sounds OK to me but mine's a V8.
Then put a/c back to on (probably auto). It even gets used to remove moisture in winter.
The codes PDF with the flash codes is the Body one.
Try it with a/c (climate control) off. Probably drops 50 or so. What you have sounds OK to me but mine's a V8.
Then put a/c back to on (probably auto). It even gets used to remove moisture in winter.
The codes PDF with the flash codes is the Body one.
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automatics will move when you release brake & jag have a lot of power going to rear end my jag will even start to go forward when on a hill, I used to drive a stick
gt 350 shelby & when I was at a stop on a hill I hated it when it would go backwards on hills I love my automatic and would never go back to a stick
gt 350 shelby & when I was at a stop on a hill I hated it when it would go backwards on hills I love my automatic and would never go back to a stick
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Those idle speeds are perfectly normal, and it's also normal for a car with automatic transmission to roll forward at idle if the brake is released. It's just something you get used to.
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Well it looks like the automatic thing is common, at first I thought it was an issue but it looks regular.
About the Airbag 19 code, should I worry about it?
I can disassemble it and clean up the clockspring but if it doesn't come with any issues I might be able to ignore that light.
Also for the OBD scanner would this be good?
ELM327 universal OBD2 EOBD CAN BUS Fault Code PC Diagnostic Reader Scanner UK | eBay
About the Airbag 19 code, should I worry about it?
I can disassemble it and clean up the clockspring but if it doesn't come with any issues I might be able to ignore that light.
Also for the OBD scanner would this be good?
ELM327 universal OBD2 EOBD CAN BUS Fault Code PC Diagnostic Reader Scanner UK | eBay
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I think it means the airbag would not go off in a crash. Here it would be an MoT (state inspection) fail so car off road till fixed. I guess worth trying to clean but you may have to replace the clockspring.
Any of the elm327s seem to be fine with cars like yours (or mine). You need a laptop or similar to connect it to. A desktop will do at a push but you can't drive (think about it!) and look at data - but then hardly anyone ever needs to do that. Almost everything that commonly fails on our cars is easily diagnosed and fixed.
Any of the elm327s seem to be fine with cars like yours (or mine). You need a laptop or similar to connect it to. A desktop will do at a push but you can't drive (think about it!) and look at data - but then hardly anyone ever needs to do that. Almost everything that commonly fails on our cars is easily diagnosed and fixed.
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Perhaps you need to change your thinking a bit??
You have moved up to a Jaguar. It is a complicated luxury car that will need some care. As was said above when the light is on you have no airbag.
Change the clock spring and don't screw around trying to clean the cassette and contacts. I have had one completely apart and it wears every time the steering wheel is turned. New ones are not that expensive.
You have a V-6 which does have a short list of known problems. They are not too hard or expensive to fix but all V-6 cars will have the problems and you are at 80K right now. The good thing is you have already the JTIS and JEPC. Read up on what the problems are and then take a look before they happen. I would be looking at the spark plug wells and checking for oil along with the IMT O-rings. I won't go into the 6 speed ZF transmission service but you are ready for that right now too.
JagV8 is very correct about the ELM327. I finally got one from EBay and even the cheap Chinese ones seem to work OK. They are too cheap to not get one! I am going to get a second one that is BT because it's so much easier to use. I run ScanXL software but there are many options.
I don't know what your old car was worth but how much do you think you have in the Jag?
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You have moved up to a Jaguar. It is a complicated luxury car that will need some care. As was said above when the light is on you have no airbag.
Change the clock spring and don't screw around trying to clean the cassette and contacts. I have had one completely apart and it wears every time the steering wheel is turned. New ones are not that expensive.
You have a V-6 which does have a short list of known problems. They are not too hard or expensive to fix but all V-6 cars will have the problems and you are at 80K right now. The good thing is you have already the JTIS and JEPC. Read up on what the problems are and then take a look before they happen. I would be looking at the spark plug wells and checking for oil along with the IMT O-rings. I won't go into the 6 speed ZF transmission service but you are ready for that right now too.
JagV8 is very correct about the ELM327. I finally got one from EBay and even the cheap Chinese ones seem to work OK. They are too cheap to not get one! I am going to get a second one that is BT because it's so much easier to use. I run ScanXL software but there are many options.
I don't know what your old car was worth but how much do you think you have in the Jag?
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No it's at 140 000KM I converted it to around 80 000 miles but it's about 88 miles or so I'm not sure.
I used miles as I thought everyone here was American so I helped a little.
I checked up German car selling sites, the Jaguars that are around this age (2005), and milage (140 000km) are being sold at around 10 000 euros or 12 000 euros.
The Skoda Octavia I valued at 7 500 euros and still no one freaking wanted it, it was just luck.
The car is in great condition I spent this whole day polishing up the exhaust as it had some spots on it, cleaning up the leather inside it and conditioning it.
The issue here is for the clockspring, I checked on Ebay and it's not really expensive the thing is no one wants to ship it to Bosnia as it costs like hell.
Getting the part here is doggy, I don't even want to drive it into the service I used for Skoda because they don't know squat, we don't even have a Jaguar Service in my country and even if we did it would cost a fortune. This country is really poor.
Hence why I'm having to work on it, I'll try cleaning up the clockspring if that fails I'll have to phone a buddy in Austria to get the part.
I used miles as I thought everyone here was American so I helped a little.
I checked up German car selling sites, the Jaguars that are around this age (2005), and milage (140 000km) are being sold at around 10 000 euros or 12 000 euros.
The Skoda Octavia I valued at 7 500 euros and still no one freaking wanted it, it was just luck.
The car is in great condition I spent this whole day polishing up the exhaust as it had some spots on it, cleaning up the leather inside it and conditioning it.
The issue here is for the clockspring, I checked on Ebay and it's not really expensive the thing is no one wants to ship it to Bosnia as it costs like hell.
Getting the part here is doggy, I don't even want to drive it into the service I used for Skoda because they don't know squat, we don't even have a Jaguar Service in my country and even if we did it would cost a fortune. This country is really poor.
Hence why I'm having to work on it, I'll try cleaning up the clockspring if that fails I'll have to phone a buddy in Austria to get the part.
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Didn't post here in a while, been busy and so on.
I got the ELM327 Bluetooth version and it's working great!
Had a few issues, the CEL turned on and it gave me the engine misfire in cylinder 1,2,3.
After a bit of research, I replaced the IMT O-Rings and no more issues! Helped a lot.
Next, I disassembled the passenger seat to fix the up/down control on it, didn't take long at all!.
The Airbag thing was very easy, took the wheel off, found the clock spring cleaned it with contact spray, and the rest with WD40 no more airbag errors, that was great too.
I also replaced the fuel filter, next is a change of oil and the oil filter. I just have to get a pair of ramps so I can get under the car.
Instead of creating another thread, I'll use this one for any help I may need.
Do you guys know where I can get ignition coils for the Jaguar? Can't find them anywhere on Ebay that fit 2005 model and are not extremely expensive.
I also order a 6-pack of NGK Laser Iridium spark plugs can't wait for those.
Thanks forum, it helped a lot with my research.
Bonus pictures:
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Oh one more question, I didn't get extra alloy wheels for winter I only have the summer ones.
I'm looking to buy a set of new ones for winter usage.
The thing is there's no way in hell I can't find one that's from Jaguar.
Here's a Bosnian website and I found a lot of them for sale. Would any of them fit for Jaguar?
The ones I have on right now are 18inchs I guess 18 or 17 would be just fine.
http://www.pik.ba/tockovi-komplet/1/1616
I'm not the expert when it comes to wheels but would any of them fit on the Jaguar?
I got the ELM327 Bluetooth version and it's working great!
Had a few issues, the CEL turned on and it gave me the engine misfire in cylinder 1,2,3.
After a bit of research, I replaced the IMT O-Rings and no more issues! Helped a lot.
Next, I disassembled the passenger seat to fix the up/down control on it, didn't take long at all!.
The Airbag thing was very easy, took the wheel off, found the clock spring cleaned it with contact spray, and the rest with WD40 no more airbag errors, that was great too.
I also replaced the fuel filter, next is a change of oil and the oil filter. I just have to get a pair of ramps so I can get under the car.
Instead of creating another thread, I'll use this one for any help I may need.
Do you guys know where I can get ignition coils for the Jaguar? Can't find them anywhere on Ebay that fit 2005 model and are not extremely expensive.
I also order a 6-pack of NGK Laser Iridium spark plugs can't wait for those.
Thanks forum, it helped a lot with my research.
Bonus pictures:
![](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/attachments/s-type-s-type-r-supercharged-v8-x200-15/43312-jaguar-s-type-2005-v6-3-0-airbag-code-19-high-idle-rev-74c997b48c.jpg?dateline=1369001133)
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Oh one more question, I didn't get extra alloy wheels for winter I only have the summer ones.
I'm looking to buy a set of new ones for winter usage.
The thing is there's no way in hell I can't find one that's from Jaguar.
Here's a Bosnian website and I found a lot of them for sale. Would any of them fit for Jaguar?
The ones I have on right now are 18inchs I guess 18 or 17 would be just fine.
http://www.pik.ba/tockovi-komplet/1/1616
I'm not the expert when it comes to wheels but would any of them fit on the Jaguar?
Last edited by BlackMac; 05-19-2013 at 05:55 PM.
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Thanks for the info.
As I only got 1 key from the guy (no spare), I already found a new key from Ebay for around a 100$.
The thing is I don't know where to program the key, I looked at ford they can't and a lot of other services, locksmiths etc no luck.
Would this be able to do the job? 3.0" LCD SBB Car Key Programmer - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
As I only got 1 key from the guy (no spare), I already found a new key from Ebay for around a 100$.
The thing is I don't know where to program the key, I looked at ford they can't and a lot of other services, locksmiths etc no luck.
Would this be able to do the job? 3.0" LCD SBB Car Key Programmer - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
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