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I am looking for someone other than the dealer who can cut the 6-cut Tiibbe key that my car uses. I got two transponder blanks from an online store, but need them cut, even if I have to send them out. I found directions for reading the key code, so that is not a problem. There is a local locksmith who has a programming tool for the transponder code, but no cutting machine. From looking online, it appears that the Tibbe key style is rare in the US, but more common in Europe.
Does anyone know of anyone who will cut my blanks for me for a reasonable fee?
This is annoying enough that I might just fabricate a fixture to cut my own keys on my engraving machine. I found the cutting specs (positions and angles), so it shouldn't be that bad. It would cost me more in time to make a fixture than to buy a key from the dealer, but the point is that I hate to be taken advantage of and treated like a captive audience.
Does anyone know of anyone who will cut my blanks for me for a reasonable fee?
This is annoying enough that I might just fabricate a fixture to cut my own keys on my engraving machine. I found the cutting specs (positions and angles), so it shouldn't be that bad. It would cost me more in time to make a fixture than to buy a key from the dealer, but the point is that I hate to be taken advantage of and treated like a captive audience.
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That is incorrect.
Jaguar and Ford have both used the Tibbe key. It depends on the year.
As long as a locksmith can cut a Tibbe key, it does not matter whether the car itself is a Jaguar or Ford. The cutting machine does not care and does not know.
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Jaguar and Ford have both used the Tibbe key. It depends on the year.
As long as a locksmith can cut a Tibbe key, it does not matter whether the car itself is a Jaguar or Ford. The cutting machine does not care and does not know.
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police666 (11-21-2012)
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So, to summarise:
1. most people can go home and get a spare key or remote
2. a brick won't start a car with an immobiliser
3. you can pick a tibbe cylinder
4. anyone else who wants to know can always do a search of the internet
5. ... and beyond the physical tibbe cylinder and "cloning" versus "programming" a Jaguar key, a Jaguar technician is a better choice than a locksmith.
And finally, keeping the remote in one pocket and the key in another minimises lockouts. When working on the car always leave the keys on the workbench or keep the window open.
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1. most people can go home and get a spare key or remote
2. a brick won't start a car with an immobiliser
3. you can pick a tibbe cylinder
4. anyone else who wants to know can always do a search of the internet
5. ... and beyond the physical tibbe cylinder and "cloning" versus "programming" a Jaguar key, a Jaguar technician is a better choice than a locksmith.
And finally, keeping the remote in one pocket and the key in another minimises lockouts. When working on the car always leave the keys on the workbench or keep the window open.
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Thanks MccJaguar, I'll check with Bob's. Will he cut *my* blanks or will he want to use blanks that he supplies?
police666, carzaddict; Ford Euro uses this key, not Ford US. US Ford dealers don't have the cutter, I checked. The only thing that matters to a Tibbe cutter is whether the blank is 6-cut or 8-cut style.
catstyle; I got the blanks from ebay seller mykeyless-1. These are supposed to be the correct rolling code transponder blanks and they do have working transponder chips, I checked them at a locksmith. They have the oval cutout for a Ford logo. I think the high priced ones are the combined 'switchblade' style keys/remotes used on later vehicles.
I always carry two keys on me for each of my cars, and keep at least one spare at home. The Jag makes it difficult to lock yourself out, but it can be done if you pop the trunk with the keyless remote, then drop the key and remote in the trunk before closing it. The doors would still be locked in that case, and you would need a second key or remote. Otherwise, you have to lock the car with the key from the driver's door, or with a keyless remote so you will have it in your hand and can't lock yourself out.
The idea that this is a 'high security' key is a joke. Videos of the special pick are all over the web. Car prowls use a window punch to break a side window, so it doesn't matter. They are in and out in seconds, grabbing what they can reach, and don't trip the alarm.
police666, carzaddict; Ford Euro uses this key, not Ford US. US Ford dealers don't have the cutter, I checked. The only thing that matters to a Tibbe cutter is whether the blank is 6-cut or 8-cut style.
catstyle; I got the blanks from ebay seller mykeyless-1. These are supposed to be the correct rolling code transponder blanks and they do have working transponder chips, I checked them at a locksmith. They have the oval cutout for a Ford logo. I think the high priced ones are the combined 'switchblade' style keys/remotes used on later vehicles.
I always carry two keys on me for each of my cars, and keep at least one spare at home. The Jag makes it difficult to lock yourself out, but it can be done if you pop the trunk with the keyless remote, then drop the key and remote in the trunk before closing it. The doors would still be locked in that case, and you would need a second key or remote. Otherwise, you have to lock the car with the key from the driver's door, or with a keyless remote so you will have it in your hand and can't lock yourself out.
The idea that this is a 'high security' key is a joke. Videos of the special pick are all over the web. Car prowls use a window punch to break a side window, so it doesn't matter. They are in and out in seconds, grabbing what they can reach, and don't trip the alarm.
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