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Old 05-03-2012, 12:06 PM
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Default Might be time for an upgrade to an str. Too good to be true?

I was just browsing to see what kind of price I'm going to have to pony up to finally get an str, and stumbled upon this:
2003 JAGUAR S-TYPE R!!! SUPERCHARGED!!!

Seems like a really nice car for that cheap, but let me know what you guys think!
 
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by disguay
I was just browsing to see what kind of price I'm going to have to pony up to finally get an str, and stumbled upon this:
2003 JAGUAR S-TYPE R!!! SUPERCHARGED!!!

Seems like a really nice car for that cheap, but let me know what you guys think!
It doesn't seem like a scam since they put not one but two numbers...Call the owner, test drive the thing, just make sure you bring it to a mechanic before buying...

Questions are if it's been in a major accident, salvage and/or how many miles are on it...

03s are going below $10K, but I haven't seen $8.5K yet...I would guess it's been in an accident and/or has high miles...
 
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Seems nice...check it out.
 
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The STR is a bargain priced muscle car with luxury! If you like that style of car they are a great value. I have had my 2005 STR for over 3 years as a daily driver with only minor problems. DCCV and heat/cool issues. The rest was all maintenance stuff and I am picky so things get done and sometimes done early.

One downside and/or suggestion. For this to work out you MUST DIY the repairs. The cost of repairing the STR is very high and you will need to use a specialist if not an actual Jaguar dealer.

If am a huge car nut and have done nearly everything that can be done with cars but my STR has seen the inside of a Jaguar dealership much more than I would have liked!! A number of things just can't be fixed in your driveway anymore. This is the first car I have ever had the dealer change the transmission fluid. But it’s not a small job and you really need a lift.
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Well thank you all! I am basically just playing around with the idea of an str right now and wanted to see if they actually do exist for close to that price. I currently own an xtype for the awd, but it just isn't fast enough. Lucky for me, I'm moving to California for school, so I no longer need the awd. I've done everything on the xtype myself and have not taken it to a shop yet. Hopefully I will be able to make enough money with selling the x and some extra cash this summer to be able to safely purchase an str (price of the car + savings for "just in case" repairs.)
 
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400HP for 8.5K, praiiiiise Jesus. Seriously test drive it and get it checked out. Best of luck.
 
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Too many miles. That 8.5k can easily turn into 12k with just nit-picking stuff.
 
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Too many miles. That 8.5k can easily turn into 12k with just nit-picking stuff.
Only if you use a Jaguar dealer...

For the year, the car has low miles...Worst case he puts $1500 into it so he nets $10000 for a problem free car...I'd get the thing and buy a new coolant tank ($125) and DCCV ($90) should be around $200 to install both, also get an updated alignment ($75) so it doesn't chew up the tires...He's at $490 and only needs to worry about one more potential problem...

The dreaded under the supercharger leak, which is $1K on the high end (mine was fixed for $600 out the door)...

It may need brakes and tires as well, but that's a strongly possibility of with any private party car...
 

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Sounds like the str is actually a lot more reliable than the xtype. I couldn't buy an auto because they blow up fast, then the transfer case goes out way too quickly which is expensive. To me, it seems like about the same gamble as the x type
 
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Originally Posted by disguay
To me, it seems like about the same gamble as the x type
Based on what?

The STR is a very reliable car; with the exception of a transmission lurch, which is annoying but doesn't affect reliability, engine/transmission issues are rare, unlike the X...Unless the seller can produce dated repair receipts, anyone who buys a STR should spend $500 on the common fail parts (DCCV, coolant tank) and an alignment...All of those things have nothing to do with the engine/transmission...You also have to keep a $1000 in your back pocket just in case of the S/C hose leak...Perhaps a previous seller already had it fixed...

Or you be super pro active, get a 3lb pulley (I don't recommend them, others do), have the S/C removed, install the pulley, replace the S/C hose, change the DCCV and coolant tank...Might only cost $1200 for it all...Worst case, $1500 is nothing in maintenance in a high horsepower car...
 
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Jaguar considers that a old high millage car! I have the identical car and have put over 8000.00 in out of pocket repairs and that's with 2 yrs select edition and 2 yr extended warranty. Just dropped 3500.00 for A/C, trans. and cooling system repairs and that's what they told me. It's 10 years old and it has 87000 mi. on it so we're sorry but it's going to start getting expensive to repair. haha! And don't think I haven't done many repairs myself. I saved at least another 3000.00 in DIY repairs too!
Just would hate to see someone else get stuck.
P.S. I still have major issues with the trans.
Don't get me wrong, I do love these cars.
 

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Originally Posted by disguay
Sounds like the str is actually a lot more reliable than the xtype. I couldn't buy an auto because they blow up fast, then the transfer case goes out way too quickly which is expensive. To me, it seems like about the same gamble as the x type
You're confusing the cars. The S-Type is not related to the X-Type. It doesn't have those sorts of problems. Hardly any parts in common. No transfer box. Etc.
 
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by badmojo
Jaguar considers that a old high millage car! I have the identical car and have put over 8000.00 in out of pocket repairs and that's with 2 yrs select edition and 2 yr extended warranty. Just dropped 3500.00 for A/C, trans. and cooling system repairs and that's what they told me. It's 10 years old and it has 87000 mi. on it so we're sorry but it's going to start getting expensive to repair. haha! And don't think I haven't done many repairs myself. I saved at least another 3000.00 in DIY repairs too!
Just would hate to see someone else get stuck.
P.S. I still have major issues with the trans.
Don't get me wrong, I do love these cars.
Mojo, please be specific in your break down parts of $8,000 (or assumed $11,000 with DIY savings)...Trans repair, like in most cars, can be costly...

What about the A/C? If you replace the DCCV before it goes bad, you'll save your CCM/RCCM from frying...If you blow a CCM/RCCM, there are a couple of places who will repair it for $300...On the otherhand, if you bring your broken DCCV & fried CCM/RCCM to a Jaguar deal, expect to pay $300-$500 for the DCCV, $1500-$2000 for the CCM/RCCM and $500-$1000 in labor...Again, you can avoid all this can be avoided by buying a $90 DCCV from amazon/rockauto and 3 hours of labor...Even the compressor isn't all that much...

Cooling system?
 
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Maintain a warranty too. I just picked up a 100,000k mile warranty ($4000 @ $160/momth on top of the 125k miles she has on the clock. Everyone could use a warranty for those eventual big buck items. And all cars have minor and major wear and tear items, not just the Jags. In fact MB and Audi fare worse in reliability, fixability, as well as a greater cost to address these variables.
 

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Jagv8, I know that the cars are completely different, I was just stating that the common problems with the x type seem to be higher dollar fixes than the DCCV which seems to be a common problem. Anyways, I'm going to try to figure out if I can afford this or not on my high school budget (hehe) and hopefully I can go down and take a look at it. Thank you all for your help and input
 
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Hi,
I did both the DCCV and CCM myself for about 180.00. Yes that alone would have been over 3000.00. I actually haven't had any trans. repairs yet besides the cooling lines, pan gasket and a broken mount (not that I think the trans. is ok). Water pump, heater hose, overflow res. and evaporator core for the A/C this time was 3500.00 alone. Cooling fans were replaced, window regulator and stab. bushings and I can't count the # of coolant leaks I have had at several hundred $ each. I did have an extended warranty but as usual hoses and belts were not covered. Oh the repairs I could have paid for with the money I spent on the warranty. Covered under select edition were the supercharger replacement, front brake calipers, all of the drive pulleys, park brake winder motor and calipers. Those are just a few of the issues I have had over the last 5 1/2 years. two and a half months total in the shop.
There are many more but those are many of the major ones. But as i said I do love these cars!!
 
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Keep her going Mojo. My 03 STR has 126k miles on the clock. She still runs strong, I'm keeping up with the exterior body, new slotted /cross drilled rotors ($250/pair) tomorrow, and she'll likely need a torque converter, etc. I look at it like this: For $11,500; she's sexy, sophisticated, a timeless retro, with mods allowing an est. 460 hp @ 500 lb./ft torque, and turns heads. To get this kind of action I'd have to take out an $80,000 note for a new s/c v8 beast or $36,000+ for a comparable used MB, Audi, etc.
 

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I'm with ya BF! This is my 3rd Jag. Been driving em for 20 yrs. Oh yeah and the torque converter has been replaced too!!
 
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sounds like torque converters are something the look out for. I just took a look at this thread E38 Appreciation Thread - StanceWorks and started drooling. I have to remember to come back to reality though. The 740il's are the most unreliable cars ever. I would rather have a timeless and classy jaguar.
 
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Originally Posted by disguay
sounds like torque converters are something the look out for. I just took a look at this thread E38 Appreciation Thread - StanceWorks and started drooling. I have to remember to come back to reality though. The 740il's are the most unreliable cars ever. I would rather have a timeless and classy jaguar.
I've owned an e38 740iL, it wasn't unreliable at all (looking through that thread, there's even a picture of it about halfway down the first page: http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSC01190.jpg). I find the design very timeless and classy; the best looking 7 series ever (although there is a lot of questionable taste in that thread). You must take in to consideration that the newest e38 you can get is already 11 years old and counting, and most have 100k+ miles on them or far more. Sure they have their issues, but just like every other used car there are problem areas to be concerned with on them or a Jaguar.
 

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