More horses!!!
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Short answer, if a metal intake or oiled cotton filter was so great, why wouldn't the factory use them? A factory could subtract the cost of their existing plastic intake paper filter and build metal intake with oiled cotton filter for probably $25 more. 10 more hp on any car would be a great marketing tool...
Longer answer: The metal intake tube aborbs heat like crazy, a moder effecient intake must draw in cooler outsideair away from the engine bay, this design looks like it doesn't. A heat sheild is abosutley useless without cold air, it's like holding a shield in a sauna. Cotton does not filter as good as paper, in general, paper filters keep your engine running longer due to allowing less particals through. Square inch to square inch, cotton will outflow paper at the expense of filtering less. With that being said, paper filters almost always have more surface area (via deeper and/or more pleat) than their k&n/cotton counterparts. Lastly never believe claims saying increased hp. Marketing has tricked us into only seeing PEAK hp, you need to look at the whole powercurve, stock vs modifications.
Longer answer: The metal intake tube aborbs heat like crazy, a moder effecient intake must draw in cooler outsideair away from the engine bay, this design looks like it doesn't. A heat sheild is abosutley useless without cold air, it's like holding a shield in a sauna. Cotton does not filter as good as paper, in general, paper filters keep your engine running longer due to allowing less particals through. Square inch to square inch, cotton will outflow paper at the expense of filtering less. With that being said, paper filters almost always have more surface area (via deeper and/or more pleat) than their k&n/cotton counterparts. Lastly never believe claims saying increased hp. Marketing has tricked us into only seeing PEAK hp, you need to look at the whole powercurve, stock vs modifications.
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RE: More horses!!!
I agree with most of the posts above...The jaguar is definitely a mod-friendly car as far as $ / hp gain. On most cars a cold air intake is probably one of the most inexpensive mods that may give you a few extra horses. You definitely won't notice a night and day difference. Same with the filter. Anyone who thinks they feel a performance difference going from one filter to another is kidding themselves...
As far as the "the would've done it at the factory if it was better" arguement...Well, there are a lot of reasons why they don't do things. Most of all overall cost and reliability. Don't think for a second that the factory maxes out the performance aspects of automobiles...
All that being said, am I going to mod my Jaguar...no, but to each his own...
As far as the "the would've done it at the factory if it was better" arguement...Well, there are a lot of reasons why they don't do things. Most of all overall cost and reliability. Don't think for a second that the factory maxes out the performance aspects of automobiles...
All that being said, am I going to mod my Jaguar...no, but to each his own...
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RE: More horses!!!
Sorry...Meant to say definitely NOT a mod-friendly car...
ORIGINAL: lowell216
I agree with most of the posts above...The jaguar is definitely a mod-friendly car as far as $ / hp gain. On most cars a cold air intake is probably one of the most inexpensive mods that may give you a few extra horses. You definitely won't notice a night and day difference. Same with the filter. Anyone who thinks they feel a performance difference going from one filter to another is kidding themselves...
As far as the "the would've done it at the factory if it was better" arguement...Well, there are a lot of reasons why they don't do things. Most of all overall cost and reliability. Don't think for a second that the factory maxes out the performance aspects of automobiles...
All that being said, am I going to mod my Jaguar...no, but to each his own...
I agree with most of the posts above...The jaguar is definitely a mod-friendly car as far as $ / hp gain. On most cars a cold air intake is probably one of the most inexpensive mods that may give you a few extra horses. You definitely won't notice a night and day difference. Same with the filter. Anyone who thinks they feel a performance difference going from one filter to another is kidding themselves...
As far as the "the would've done it at the factory if it was better" arguement...Well, there are a lot of reasons why they don't do things. Most of all overall cost and reliability. Don't think for a second that the factory maxes out the performance aspects of automobiles...
All that being said, am I going to mod my Jaguar...no, but to each his own...
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ORIGINAL: Igloo112
I don't have an R like most of you guys so I'd like to boost mine up a bit.
I don't have an R like most of you guys so I'd like to boost mine up a bit.
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Thanks for all the tips. I was just wondering if there is anything I could do to get a little boost on the proformance. It is pretty fast at this point. I did notice though that when you have a full car (passengers and luggage)it feels like it makes a bigger difference than it should. I would just go get another car that would be better to mod but I don't think anybody's giving cars away. At least not that I know of.
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ORIGINAL: lowell216
I agree with most of the posts above...The jaguar is definitely a mod-friendly car as far as $ / hp gain. On most cars a cold air intake is probably one of the most inexpensive mods that may give you a few extra horses. You definitely won't notice a night and day difference. Same with the filter. Anyone who thinks they feel a performance difference going from one filter to another is kidding themselves...
As far as the "the would've done it at the factory if it was better" arguement...Well, there are a lot of reasons why they don't do things. Most of all overall cost and reliability. Don't think for a second that the factory maxes out the performance aspects of automobiles...
All that being said, am I going to mod my Jaguar...no, but to each his own...
I agree with most of the posts above...The jaguar is definitely a mod-friendly car as far as $ / hp gain. On most cars a cold air intake is probably one of the most inexpensive mods that may give you a few extra horses. You definitely won't notice a night and day difference. Same with the filter. Anyone who thinks they feel a performance difference going from one filter to another is kidding themselves...
As far as the "the would've done it at the factory if it was better" arguement...Well, there are a lot of reasons why they don't do things. Most of all overall cost and reliability. Don't think for a second that the factory maxes out the performance aspects of automobiles...
All that being said, am I going to mod my Jaguar...no, but to each his own...
I also chose not to mod my Jags drivetrain, only because it seems to built out of "glass" in which breaks relatively easy.
Hope no one takes offense, I'm trying to correct in a respectful way what I feel is misinformation. That'sthe great thing about a dicussion board.
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Definitely no offense taken here...I think we're pretty much saying the same thing anyway. The performance aftermarket for the S-Type is horrible. Little available, ridiculously overpriced and almost no real-world data (from guys like us on the forums) supporting performance gains. Again, just not very mod-friendly, especially when you take into consideration the reliability issues that are inherent with real hp gains.
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RE: More horses!!!
ORIGINAL: Igloo112
Does anyone know any quick ways to add more horses to my S-type 4.0? I don't have an R like most of you guys so I'd like to boost mine up a bit. What should I do first? Everything's stock at this point.
Does anyone know any quick ways to add more horses to my S-type 4.0? I don't have an R like most of you guys so I'd like to boost mine up a bit. What should I do first? Everything's stock at this point.
Unless the car came with F/I from the factory you’re wasting your money for what you get in return. Don’t believe me? Let’s say that the CAI adds 10 hp, headers another/ porting your heads15-20 hp, and a midpipe/ exhaust combo another 10 hp. All this is speculation and marketing from the vendors, but for arguments sake we will say you just added 40 hp for about $3000-$3500. Even if you leave out porting the heads you're still looking at $1500-$2000 for 30hp. Does this sound like a good deal for your hard earned money$
I don’t know if they have an NOS kit for the S, but IMHO that would be the best bang for the buck. You could get anywhere from 50-100hp for around $500, if they have a kit for the S? If you're handy you could even install the kit yourself.
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Why those rims on the stang cajun??? Could've gotten some saleen gunmetal black 18's for 450 shipped...liking the black on both though...Especially the s-type...
You would spend less money just buying a use s-type r than modifying the s-type...not to mention you could get one under warranty and everything would be fixed with factory hp...
You would spend less money just buying a use s-type r than modifying the s-type...not to mention you could get one under warranty and everything would be fixed with factory hp...
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RE: Two cars are better than one.
I guess you guys are right. It really wouldn't make sence to spen a few grand just to get a small boost in hp. The tranny is pretty weak. I guess I'll just focus on making it look nice. I'll get some rims, tint, and hid's. Does anybody have the chrome pillars or chrome headlight circles around the headlights?
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RE: Two cars are better than one.
ORIGINAL: Igloo112
Does anybody have the chrome pillars or chrome headlight circles around the headlights?
Does anybody have the chrome pillars or chrome headlight circles around the headlights?
Personally I wouldn't get the chrome for the pillars.
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